9750 [1920x1200] vs 8970 [1680x1050]

Nice Pics - How did you get your 8790 working again for the comparison?

Nasty dent and misalignment on the left hand side of the 8790... Looks as if you have a Zero in Zero card reader now....

I couldnt help but notice that you have 4 dead pixels in some rather annoying spots. Are you going to get it replaced?

That's a rather ugly display with light leakage at an unaceptable level imo at least. I can see the frustration you have.

dead pixels

4 dead pixels in left display in third picture taken. This is your new pc.
They are one inch above the B in "hub" and 1/2 inch down from top just above the B also. Then you have one one inch down and 4 inches to the left of the I in "international". And the final one is directly up from that at about 2 inches below the top of screen.
Dead pixels are exactly that. They show up when you make the screen all one color. Try making your background all black no logo..or maybe all white..etc.
There is a glaring green one in the final pic in the older display above the H in "hub". I also see a green one in the same spot in your start up screen in the first picture listed.

Good thing it was just dust, i would've had a heart attack had i ordered that and found dead pixels.

I am not impressed with the new screen. This is what I fear when I finally upgrade.

That amout of light leakage would drive me crazy for a machine that fancy. Hope you can get some answers on what to do. Good luck man and you ordered a nice machine. Top notch


Thanks,
Monnie

Here is a 5720 and a 9750 for some comparison. I would say I am happy with the black level of both screens. There is a tad of light leakage from the bottom, but this is only noticeable in pitch black with pitch black background. I always generally use dark wallpapers and dark themes, and I am happy with it.
I was also lucky to get no dead pixels on either system.


--Oogami

I'v also had a crazy problem with the 9750's WUXGA screen. A lot of people don't seem to mind; but for myself being in the graphics industry it just wouldn't do: it all depends on the use you have in store for the machine. After a lot of arguing I got a replacement downgraded to the WSXGA screen for good reasons. the reasons were really simple once Sager actually admitted to them: their technical support did not tell me outright, it took me a lot of hours of research and rather insultingly 'reassuring' answers from both Sager and PC Torque such as "there is no problem" (between the lines: meaning "go away/ we don't care") in order to make informed guesses as to the reason for the poor screen; and then they admitted it only when I told them what their origeonal answer should have been!

The WUXGA is by Samsung: with a rediculous amount of light leakage and poor colour consistency all over (ITS A DIRTY, MURKY SCREEN). Dell have the same problem with their Samsung Laptop screens just as Sager/Celvo does. Its a charicteristic of this particular screen, if you ask me it should never have made it off the assembly line!

The WSXGA is by LG: it is a slightly lower resolution but perfect as far as I can see: i havn't noticed any light leakage so far, the colours are more consitent across the screen You won't benefit much from the slightly higher resolution of the WUXGA either.

Aparently a lot of the Dell customers have had their screens replaced to the LG's on request; the same will work with Sager I assume (I had mine replaced to the WSXGA on request as I had a dead pixel in the centre anyway). Mind you they won't refund the difference in cost if you already have the WUXGA and downgrade, what a drag! - despite the fact that mine was replaced under necessity: through their standard dead pixel policy they would not come to an agreement.

At least the WSXGA had no dead pixels this time, and as good quality as any other decent screen.

I will post on this issue some time later when I have the time: with photographs of both screens for comparison. I really think that something should be done about Sager's rather raw attitude, I really DON'T RECOMMEND THE WUXGA.

I don't think mine looks too bad in black...
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g6...e/IMG_0024.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g6...e/IMG_0025.jpg
(First is with flash on the camera, second without)
I don't think it looks near as bad as Max's...and I've got the WUXGA - I absolutely love it, can't see any of the stuff that everyone else is complaining about, though everyone else who sees my laptop complains about everything being so small

Oh, and in reference to your other thread, yah my card reader light is always on too.

did you have your screen brightness settings at max when you took the picture? Does that picture accurately represent the light levels coming from your screen - cameras vary a lot.?

I'm gobsmacked that there would be some that work properly when Sager told me that they all have serious light leakage from the bottom of the screen after all that messing about with tech support trying to prove that i did actually have a problem?!

From what your saying and what I and others have evidently experienced then these WUXGA's must vary a great deal in quality. I'm on WSXGA now, still there is almost no light leakage from this screen at all which a releif. I have to be honist that the high resolution was a little too much for me, but i can see the advantage in games. HAhaha, in AutoCAD lines were so thin I had difficalty making them out with ambient light in the room being very high. Its pretty crazy, screens are getting to such a high pixel density that there won't be so much need for anti-alaising!

I'd bet 10 years down the line pixels will be so tiny that won't even be visable to the eye.

Urban Dreamer, you are mixing things up.

There were 3 17" WUXGA screen types for the Dell XPS and some other series. 2 LG ones, and one Samsung. Almost all of the first type of LG's were replaced for Samsung ones on customers request, because the samsungs are technically and qualitatively far superior to the LG screens. The LG screens were ordinary non-glare type screens that had their diffusors taken out. they had all sorts of problems, light leakage being the least of it. they had metallic glsitening micro distortions, poor white levels, poor color response. I had both LG's at some point.
There was a lot of fuss about this and Sager have therefore chosen for the Samsung screens, for very good reason. The ONLY other manufacturer that makes 17" WUXGA glare type lcds is sony, and they only use them for their own laptops, and do not sell them to others. We should all be really glad that we get samsung screens from Sager, and not murky, brown and pink washed out LG's with weird glistening colors (like dust underneath the glass).

Light leakage is one of those things that all of the 17" screens suffer from, but it DECREASES over time, and that goes quite quickly. In a couple of months it will be far less than what you are seeing now. I'm not saying it's not defective, or tolerable, all I'm saying is that it will diminish.

Exception

You might bethe exception. I have had my 8790 for about two years (a week or so less) and have never had ANY light leakage from the screen.