New Targa 0F09P00 Bios thread - Page 3

i have been using this bios for over a month now and it was without a doubt one of the best upgrades that i have done!

I'm looking to start running this bios, and read your thread. I just thought it may help you to add that I can boot from a compact flash card in the card reader if I set it to boot from USB devices first, but I can't boot from anything else. (I guess if you guys didn't know you could boot from a CF card then this may be of some help to you..)

well thats kind of a whack way of doing it makes sense tho, since CF cards have IDE controllers on them

I own an eMachines m6807 with this Targa 0F09.P00 BIOS.
Will I be able to put in the newer Newark Mobile Athlon 64 4000+ ??
My concerns are the voltage 1.35v vs. 1.40v in current Mobile Athlon 64 3000+ and frequency of 2600Mhz vs. 1800Mhz.
The concerns are due to a program I ran from eSupport.com called "bios agent" (v3.62) that states my machine will only support (with this 0F09.P00 bios) a max. frequency of 2500Mhz!!!
Help!!
P.S.- I also read in another post somewhere that someone has done this upgrade with an Arima bios. Do I need that bios (0F08.P02E i think)???

that is correct about plugging in a 4000+ with 0F08.P02E (2 users; 1 dropped out after one week, reverting back to lower cpu speed, no reason given or available), not sure about the newark

i currently run a 3400+ in my m6805 and 3700+ in my targa811 with 0F09.P00 - smooth and no issue. I ran briefly 3700+ in my m6805 but it was a bit hit&miss, so i reverted back down to 3400+

cannot confirm that 09.P00 supports only a max. of 2500mhz, my only knowledge of the 09 over the 08 is the gain on gpu performance

cheers ...

Thank you. I'm still considering the upgrade as it'll make the system last a couple of years longer (I hope). So you think that the Arima bios should be better then?

ok I have a m6805 that I parted out the motherboard in it that was good laptop worked fine only probles with it was that the card reader had died. Searched around and for about 40 average shipped i could have it replaced. Monitor hinges were getting bad and the cracked hinge covers looked awfull.

My fiance' s m6811 gc took a poop with all the verticle lines showing up on the lcd and on an external monitor searched the forums and was told the video ram was bad and or the gpu was die'ing. So i did the knobile thing of parting with my good board to get her system running again just swapped in my board with her cpu in her m6811 case moved the 1gb to under the keyboard in case later down the road we decide to upgrade.

So my laptop set for about 4 months in peices. While it was down I traded the cpu to somebody for a cheap $100 pci gc for my sisters pc.

My fiance' got her taxxes back so I had the money to replace and or upgrade mine. The going rate for a bottom half was around 230 avg shipped, so thats what I got for giving up my board to her. So recently I was on ebay looking for a bottom half of a faster/ newer notebook bc I needed the board and a card reader + cpu sense I traded mine. So for around 110 my cost with the 230 from replacing hers I thought this would be a great deal.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...5229&rd=1&rd=1

Payed via paypal item shiped to me in 3 days.

Well i got it last night it looked brand new. - the hdd wich I still had and the tray from my 6805 put it in booted it up and everything was fine for about 5 min or so when I proceded to stress test the system the fan spun up so loud, louder then normal, for about 15 sec then the system shut off completely. Thinking back I opend up the memory bay on the bottom to find generic stick of pc 2100 256mb. So I put my samsung 256mb pc 2700 in that slot. gainded access to the internal slot and found even cheaper brand pc2100 256mb in that slot. Thats where I put my giga-ram 1gb pc2700 in. I put the battery back in hooked up external keyboard and the power strip booted up stress test didnt last as long, about 1 min after it shut off again. Then I took off the cpu heatsink to find some milky looking crap all over the cpu and heatsink still wet looking. I dried and cleaned all that off. As it wasnt the stock paste thats when I started to get worried. So I put some silver case manhatten thermal paste only thing I had around on. Then re-asembled the cpu heatsink. Let it sit in the bios for 6 hrs to kind of burn in. Booted to windows ran stress test and it lasted about 2 min and shut off again.

The machine sits in the bios fine and wills stay there without shutting off. Running some cd based utilities known to stress the cpu it still shits off whenever the cpu fan goes into turbo mode (louder then it should be never even heard my 6805 or fiance' s 6811 get that loud).

The cpu tems I monitored were not hot about 130-135f b4 it shut off. So my last resort I had a 754 mobile semperon 2800+ laying around from an old parted system that I dont have the board to anymore put it in there it boots up and runs all day, but is slow bc its clocked @ 1.6ghz and only has 128k l2.

Stress tested with the semperon 2800+ under xp with everest ultimate for over 4 hrs to my surprise it didnt shut off.

Now I am looking for a cpu that I can upgrade and or replace with the stock 3400+ Mobile DTR chip, but the ones I have found are expensive in comparison to other 754 chips around the same speed.

What I would like to know is if anyone with any of the bioses sense I can boot and run the machine to flash the bios with the 2800+ in there, what desktop athlons 64 754's or mobile athlon 64's are known to work with the kt800 chipset. My system has the ati mobility 9600/9700 64mb agp chip.

Sorry for the long post but I didnt want to be flamed for not reading around or being a neewbie. not saying everyone would but to whom it may concern they know who the flammers are LOL.

Any advise or help would be much appriciated. I plan on offsetting my cost of the new cpu by selling my working board that has the bad vga/mem or gpu with the slightly working cpu. on ebay. keeping the chassie and working parts for sapare's such as the lcd. also might as well throw in a stick of the 256 so whoever gets it can test or repair. I can sell to anyone on here first if interested just PM me. Thanks again for reading and for the 5 or so min of your time.

Gator.

You probably don't want to run anything over 62W (mobile). There are some people that have had success swapping in a DTR (the stock chip is not a DTR, it is a mobile) , but the board and in particular the power brick and voltage regulators aren't designed to run the DTR (81W). You will be putting a ton of stress on the voltage regulator and power brick, and adding a lot of heat to the system.

You will be safe with any mobile clawhammer core, or an E core should work with the modded bios in the portal stickied on the main page. Stay away from desktop A64 processors. They aren't much higher on thermal dissipation than a DTR, but even the DTR is pushing the limits of what the machine can handle from a power aspect.

In all honesty, you aren't gonna feel a lick of difference in day to day usage between the sempron 2800 and even a 4000+ A64 mobile. Even if gaming, it's not gonna make the difference between playable frame rates and not playable. You will see it in benchmarks, but there won't be any tangible difference in performance, unless you are running apps that very heavily stress the CPU for long periods of time. If it were mine, I wouldn't spend the money on changing the CPU unless you need that CPU for something else. You will get a MUCH bigger gain (and very tangible) from putting a Hitachi 7k100 HDD with the sempron than you will from leaving the 4200 RPM drive (or even a 5400RPM) and upgrading to a faster CPU.

thanks thunder. I was able to get my original 3000+ athlon back by trading him the 3400+ that didnt work in the laptop. To my surprise the laptop is not messed up @ all i have stressed the cpu out with 2 diff apps @ the same time and it does not overheat the cpu fans dont go into turbo mode... lol and it does not shut off..

My bigg isssue with the semperon is that i do alot of photoshop and divx /dvd /xvid reprosessing and it just plain sux even with the 3000+ in here it seems almost 2x as peppy + I can use my 64bit vista partition again. as were the 2800 was not a 64 bit enabled one. I have 1.25gb of ram in here and plan on upgrading it to 2gb of pc 3200 400mhz just want to be able to keep this for a while and not have to worry about it being out dated as with the cpu if i keep this one in here for now that wont be a problem.

I just want the ability to upgrade later when I need the extra cpu horsepower. as for gaming i really dont see a difference in anything but loading times the gameplay is about the same.

I was hoping on getting my hands on a 7525 gateway bottom half that had the ati x600 128mb card and the 4000+ cpu in t but the one i saw on ebay it went for $380 before i could find the funds.

When this one gets 2 costly to upgrade i'll park it on a desk and get something more powerfull/mobile use this for living room pc or a car pc project... alway something you can do with old hardware. People kill me when they throw out a 2 year old system to get a new one....

My 4 year old nephew has his own toughbook albiet a 300mhz p2 and 128ram with 98se but it plays his snes games fine and surfs the web fine.... for $100 bux its the best thing i ever got him...