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Nightmare experience with Emachine tech support

post #1 of 23
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I bought my M6810 laptop brand new in a factory sealed box from an online vendor (not ebay) Nov 27, 2005. I called into emachines tech support to get the HDD replaced (went bad). Per request, faxed in my reciept. Called back the following day and was told...

"You did not buy your laptop from one of our authorized vendors, therefore your warranty is backdated to the time of manufacturing (June 2004) and hence you have no warranty."

I escalated my plight to a tech supervisor (Eli) to argue this nonsense policy . I felt my warranty should be honored because...

1. None of the documentation included in the retail box notified me of this policy. If it had, I could have made an informed decision when I purchased it and returned the laptop to the vendor and bought one somewhere else. By not informing me, you took away my options.

2. The HDD is still under warranty through Hitachi though they will only accept an RMA through Emachines as I'm considered 3rd party. So in essence, it would cost emachines almost nothing to replace the drive.

This whole idea of only honoring warranties from date of purchase ONLY if you bought the equipment through an authorized vendor is a bunch of BS. I have NEVER heard of such a ridiculous policy. Over my lifetime I've made several warranty claims of things I bought and provided I had a receipt showing the date purchased, the manufacture could care less where it was purchased. To make matters worse, Eli was a total a$$. To give example...

1. Repeating cooperate policy over and over again like a damn parrot

2. Constantly trying to talk over me when I was speaking (see #1)

3. Took a hostile tone with me often shouting.

4. When asked direct questions, refused to answer.

5. After repeating myself several times, finally confirmed he had the authority to make exceptions to the warranty process and validate my claim, but did not feel my case justified such an exception.

Keep in mind, I never got hostile with him or used any kind of profanity. I called back in customer service and requested to file a report for Eli's behavior requesting our conversation be pulled for a superior to listen to. Was told managers dont have their calls recorded. So in short, it's his word against mine.

Anyone have a similar experience or know of a different road to take with Emachines in trying to validate my warranty?
post #2 of 23
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Originally Posted by Iceshot
I bought my M6810 laptop brand new in a factory sealed box from an online vendor (not ebay) Nov 27, 2005. I called into emachines tech support to get the HDD replaced (went bad). Per request, faxed in my reciept. Called back the following day and was told... "You did not buy your laptop from one of our authorized vendors, therefore your warranty is backdated to the time of manufacturing (June 2004) and hence you have no warranty." I escalated my plight to a tech supervisor (Eli) to argue this nonsense policy . I felt my warranty should be honored because... 1. None of the documentation included in the retail box notified me of this policy. If it had, I could have made an informed decision when I purchased it and returned the laptop to the vendor and bought one somewhere else. By not informing me, you took away my options. 2. The HDD is still under warranty through Hitachi though they will only accept an RMA through Emachines as I'm considered 3rd party. So in essence, it would cost emachines almost nothing to replace the drive. This whole idea of only honoring warranties from date of purchase ONLY if you bought the equipment through an authorized vendor is a bunch of BS. I have NEVER heard of such a ridiculous policy. Over my lifetime I've made several warranty claims of things I bought and provided I had a receipt showing the date purchased, the manufacture could care less where it was purchased. To make matters worse, Eli was a total a$$. To give example... 1. Repeating cooperate policy over and over again like a damn parrot 2. Constantly trying to talk over me when I was speaking (see #1) 3. Took a hostile tone with me often shouting. 4. When asked direct questions, refused to answer. 5. After repeating myself several times, finally confirmed he had the authority to make exceptions to the warranty process and validate my claim, but did not feel my case justified such an exception. Keep in mind, I never got hostile with him or used any kind of profanity. I called back in customer service and requested to file a report for Eli's behavior requesting our conversation be pulled for a superior to listen to. Was told managers dont have their calls recorded. So in short, it's his word against mine. Anyone have a similar experience or know of a different road to take with Emachines in trying to validate my warranty?
Had the same problem with Gateway in support CHAT, All I wanted was a BIOS Upgrade and all I got was this: . 1. Repeating cooperate policy over and over again like a damn parrot they kept typing the same LAME thing over & over again (Sounds like the BUSH Adim to me, Repeating the same thing over, and never admitting they are WRONG) 2. Constantly trying to type over me when I was typing. and NOT listening to what I was asking , I found this VERY RUDE 3. When asked direct questions, refused to answer. (Sounds like the White House to me) Hum maybe Gateway & Emachines just doesn't give a DAMM anymore? again (Sounds like our Govt.)
post #3 of 23
file a complaint here http://www.labbb.org/BBBWeb/Forms/General/Home.aspx

and also at the attorney generals office, gateway has to go down! i screwed up bad and will never ever buy another gateway... there warrenty sucks and so does every cs rep they have.
post #4 of 23
that machine stopped being manufactured and sold altoegether a year and a quarter before you bought it!

theyre not required to honor purchase dates for anywhere that is not an authorized reseller, because they do not have contracts with them. nowhere else is allowed to sell the machines except the authorized resellers. otherwise, the machine is given the year from the actual manufacturing date. anywhere else, arent authorized to sell the machines. it could have been stolen from the back of a shipping truck for all they know

they have absolutely no reason or obligation to give you a warranty.
post #5 of 23
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Originally Posted by The Anaconda
that machine stopped being manufactured and sold altoegether a year and a quarter before you bought it! theyre not required to honor purchase dates for anywhere that is not an authorized reseller, because they do not have contracts with them. nowhere else is allowed to sell the machines except the authorized resellers. otherwise, the machine is given the year from the actual manufacturing date. anywhere else, arent authorized to sell the machines. it could have been stolen from the back of a shipping truck for all they know they have absolutely no reason or obligation to give you a warranty.
I understand your point Anaconda, but the fact remains there was NO documentation of any kind stipulating this policy in the retail packaging of my M6810. Had I known about this policy (IE documentation), I would have immediately returned the laptop to the vendor even if it meant eating a restocking fee and sought a "authorized" vendor. How are we (consumers) to know who is "authorized" and who is not and the consequences of not buying the laptop from an authorized vendor? I had no idea my laptop had no warranty at the time of purchase and that is the main basis of my argument. If your going to make a sweeping policy like this, I feel you have a duty to inform/warn your consumer base at time of purchase, NOT 6+ months later when filing a warranty claim!
post #6 of 23
I kind of have to agree with anaconda. You should have simply bought it from gateway or an authorized seller. I'm assuming you wouldn't have a problem if you followed this route. (I hope your problem does get resolved, but I'm looking at it from their perspective.)
post #7 of 23
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Originally Posted by dellandre
You should have simply bought it from gateway or an authorized seller. I'm assuming you wouldn't have a problem if you followed this route.

I totally agree with you.

Now, put yourself in my shoes for a moment and ponder this...

If emachines completly fails to inform you at the time of purchase with documentation in the box explaining their closed circuit vendor list and the consequences of buying outside that list, HOW is the consumer to know these things? Do you think it's fair I call in six months later and then for the first time be informed of these policies when it's too late for me to take corrective action? Should I be punished for this critical oversight?

Do you understand my point?
post #8 of 23
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Originally Posted by Iceshot
I totally agree with you. Now, put yourself in my shoes for a moment and ponder this... If emachines completly fails to inform you at the time of purchase with documentation in the box explaining their closed circuit vendor list and the consequences of buying outside that list, HOW is the consumer to know these things? Do you think it's fair I call in six months later and then for the first time be informed of these policies when it's too late for me to take corrective action? Should I be punished for this critical oversight? Do you understand my point?
Have you checked with the Vendor? maybe They will replace the HD, after all, you did buy it form them, maybe they may Compensate you, did u ask them? did you tell them, how bad the OEM is treating you? It's worth a try? if they don't , I wouldn't EVER buy anything form them EVER again, most Vendor web sites don't want Negative Feedback on anything they sell? also most cover items for at least a full year from date of purchase? Something to consider?
post #9 of 23
Did the shop that you bought the machine from represent itself as an authorized eMachines vendor? If so you should go after them for fraud. eMachines is pretty much out of this since you are in effect not the original purchaser.
post #10 of 23
Ice, while I see why you are upset, if the place you bought it from isn't an authorized reseller, you are not the original owner of the machine. The warranty takes effect either a) when the shop you bought it from bought it; or b) date of manufacture.

In effect, it would be the same as me buying one from Best Buy, never opening it, and selling it 2 years later to you as new. Would you expect the full warranty to be in effect just because it was unopened? If that was the case, no one would ever register anything until a few days before they made a claim. Emachines has no choice but to go back to date of manufacture when purchased from an unauthorized seller. Otherwise, they hve no way of knowing if the machine was really new, or if you just got a receipt from a budy who works at store "X". If they advertised the machine with full warraty, the place of purchase is who needs to be held liable.
post #11 of 23
801-401-1199 = Gateway Corporate Office. Speak with Don Clark - His manager is Dustin. Tell them what you have told us. If they don't resolve Escalate it to the press. My brother is a news correspondant so my issue got resolved.
post #12 of 23
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Originally Posted by Iceshot
2. The HDD is still under warranty through Hitachi though they will only accept an RMA through Emachines as I'm considered 3rd party. So in essence, it would cost emachines almost nothing to replace the drive.

The individual components are warranted by the OEM (eMachines) and not the manufacturer. There are no individual component warranties.
post #13 of 23
I feel your pain. I have a Gateway 7422 from Best Buy w/3 year warranty. When I had a key break off the keyboard and my power button broke (which they said is my fault not a defect so not covered on warranty) and my screen flickered, Best Buy told me to contact Gateway. Gateway told me to contact Corportate Gateway (emachines), Emachines sent me back to Gateway, they in turn said (after I bitched for 15 minutes) for 167.00 they can fix it. Why did I buy the stupid warranty when I have to pay for all the problems.

No one would help, nor could they locate the parts for me to replace myself. Pretty sad. Finally found what I needed on EBay and did it myself.

I use to be a Gateway fan from the old days. Not anymore.
post #14 of 23
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Originally Posted by Thor's Might
801-401-1199 = Gateway Corporate Office. Speak with Don Clark - His manager is Dustin. Tell them what you have told us. If they don't resolve Escalate it to the press. My brother is a news correspondant so my issue got resolved.
Escalate it to the press?? I think your taking this too far. Although I feel for Ice because he feels like he got ripped, it is NOT emachines fault. Just like thunder said, you can't expect to have a company give warranty on a 10yr old computer just because it is unopened. If anything the retailer Ice bought it from should be responsible. Side Note: What did you have resolved because your brother is a news correspondant. Unless a company is obviously wrong, I don't see how you could argue your case just because you get it into the "press."
post #15 of 23
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Originally Posted by Thor's Might
801-401-1199 = Gateway Corporate Office. Speak with Don Clark - His manager is Dustin. Tell them what you have told us...

I completely agree with this, Don Clark is by far the best person I ever dealt with at Gateway/Emachines. I had a very bad experience with my gateway notebook (I'm on my 5th replacement, all the others they sent to me defective) and had one corporate rep refuse to replace it anymore (his name is Michael, don't deal with that idiot) but Don helped me out and even got them to give me the model I requested as a replacement. He also gave me his direct number and email so I wouldn't have to deal with anyone else anymore.
post #16 of 23
We had a similar problem with a computer built by a local company that should remain nameless. (<cough>digilink in Okemos Michigan<cough>)

When the machine was about 10 months old it started to become unstable so digilink sold my son-in-law antivirus software. When he brought it back a few weeks later claiming that made no difference, they sold him a surge suppressor. Over the next several weeks they sold him a variety of other things, none of which made any difference. When the one year warranty was had finally expired they finally diagnosed the problem as a bad motherboard, which they offered to replace at full price. Although the motherboard manufacturer would exchange the board for a new one at no cost it would have to go through digilink as they are the OEM. digilink was not interested in this as there would be little profit for them in this deal. Ooops, I accidently mentioned that this company was digilink, in Okemos Michigan. Please ignore that, unless you happen to be in Mid-Michigan looking for a computer and don't want to be ripped off. In which case I guess I can't force you to overlook this.
post #17 of 23
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Originally Posted by Greygonia
I feel your pain. I have a Gateway 7422 from Best Buy w/3 year warranty. When I had a key break off the keyboard and my power button broke (which they said is my fault not a defect so not covered on warranty) and my screen flickered, Best Buy told me to contact Gateway. Gateway told me to contact Corportate Gateway (emachines), Emachines sent me back to Gateway, they in turn said (after I bitched for 15 minutes) for 167.00 they can fix it. Why did I buy the stupid warranty when I have to pay for all the problems.

No one would help, nor could they locate the parts for me to replace myself. Pretty sad. Finally found what I needed on EBay and did it myself.

I use to be a Gateway fan from the old days. Not anymore.

How could a key breaking off or a power button breaking be your fault unless you use a hammer to type? You should have raised holy hell- in fact, you could still raise holy hell with them....if you feel it's worth the energy.
You were jobbed and robbed...unless you use a hammer to type with.
post #18 of 23
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Originally Posted by pharlaptop
How could a key breaking off or a power button breaking be your fault unless you use a hammer to type? You should have raised holy hell- in fact, you could still raise holy hell with them....if you feel it's worth the energy.
You were jobbed and robbed...unless you use a hammer to type with.


That was sarcasm right?
post #19 of 23
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Originally Posted by portnoy
That was sarcasm right?

Ahhh....maybe only about 99.8%. You have to take into account Gateway's legal department's attitude that they'd be looking at that .2% as a real possibility.
post #20 of 23
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Originally Posted by dellandre
Escalate it to the press?? I think your taking this too far. Although I feel for Ice because he feels like he got ripped, it is NOT emachines fault. Just like thunder said, you can't expect to have a company give warranty on a 10yr old computer just because it is unopened. If anything the retailer Ice bought it from should be responsible.

Side Note: What did you have resolved because your brother is a news correspondant. Unless a company is obviously wrong, I don't see how you could argue your case just because you get it into the "press."

Heh. Someone doesn't know the REAL reason the BIOS update for the M6805/M6807 got released. (Note: soon here I'll attempt to dig out those emails that got it released!)

Basically they kept telling me 'not gonna happen' - then buddy (now roommate/landlord, who writes for a major online tech site) emailed them saying "so what's this I hear...?" Next morning, I (on dialup at the time) had a many-MB email with the update attached
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