7800go temperature fix... - Page 2

I am running the E1705 with the ATI X1400 for the moment..(Am waiting on my 7800 gtx from dell) Soon i hope.
With I9Kfangui i idle about 109*F t0 111*F stock with non Dell drivers. Using 6.4 drivers, I gets to 130*F under load, But i have the fangui set to come on fast @ 114*F all around. I know that when the 7800 gets here it will go up a fair bit, i would think.
I will be using AS ceramique to redo everything, but what that does is transfer all the heat to the heatsink in the "best" fashion.
The heatsink/pipes. are bearing 95% od the heat i use some stuff here at work whick may keep some of the heat off the plastic and get it to the fans better.

The first thing, i would ask is.
Does anyone know of a company that make more efficent
fans, getting the heat out of the case better then the stock Dell fans?

2. That would set in the stock fan areas?
3. Would they be fairly quiet in a work setting?

Actually, I reinstalled Windows almost immediately after getting my 9400. I am using the 84.21 drivers, and I can tell you that my laptop is currently running at a cool 20 degrees right now (and the fans aren't even on at the moment). Now, I know that fangui doesn't report the correct temps for the GPU, but it isn't very far off (several of us have determined it's about 6 degrees under what it should read). So even at 26-30 degrees (to be safe), it's still running well under what you guys seem to be getting. I do have the laptop cooler under it, but that really shouldn't make such a huge difference.

Sorry, I don't think my comments came out correctly. I meant that while I believe the Coolermaster helps, I wouldn't think it would make a difference of 30-40 degrees. That's just not possible from what I have read on review sites. 5-15 degrees, sure...but not 40.

haha....I think thats just Fangui reporting incorrect temps. My Fangui also reports the GPU at 20 degrees. I have to restart fangui a couple times and it jumps back to the 50-60 range. Running dell installed OS and dell drivers.

But mine doesn't stay at 20 degrees (right now it's sitting around 26), and I can tell you that it is most definitely not running at 50-60. I can tell when it's running that hot, and it isn't at the moment.

Quote n0xlf
imallupinya, how long does your battery last when not gaming?

About 4-5 hours depending on what i am doing, and how fast i set stand by.
Hope that helps

The new A01 bios from dell sorted out my incorrect temp readings from I9kfangui, 20c is an incorrect reading, sure it will still rise and fall, but trust me, nothing on these laptops run a cool 20-26c. even still now though, Nvidia's temp reading is 5c warmer than what Fangui reads I9kfangui wasnt made for Core duo, the Bios is different therefore isnt consistant at reading temps from the bios nor controlling the fans, they fight over control causing the problems. At this point, there isn't a solution, but officially it isnt a problem as the temps are within tolerances. But if you overclock, then you might have problems, and at this time, there isnt a reliable solution yet. Again the note on AS5. It works better at conducting heat from the chip to the cooling body than the stock thermal grease and pads, but the problem remains that the chip is still producing heat. AS5 only helps transfer that generated heat to the cooling body faster. The only way to keep it cooler is to get the fans running on slow at minimum at all times with it kicking into high gear when gaming. For now with Fangui, we have to do it manually. Of course another solution would be to underclock the card...that would definatly cool it down, probably why dell dropped the clock speed on the 7800go vanilla to 200-250 (rather than the reference 400) in the first place. But of course this isnt an option as the performance is severely retarded this way. For those with the 9400's, I am thinking if you're happy with your 7800go, try to get your hands on a 7900gtx cooling body with the cooling arm, with 2 fans used to cool the card, it definatly will help. I think it was andre who did this with a 7800gtx heatsink on his vanilla and it did wonders.

While the temp reading may not be correct, there is no way mine is idling at 50-60 celsius. My keyboard would be warm and the air coming out of the back of the machine would be a lot wamer than it is. Also, while fangui isn't made for the Core Duo processors, I don't have any problems running it or using the fan controls. The temp-controlled fan interface doesn't work, but I can still manually set the fans to low or fast with no problems at all. They stay on for as long as I tell them to stay on (they don't turn off if the GPU gets too hot, etc., like I have seen some here post). I definitely think the laptop cooler helps the heat problem, but I know my GPU is not running as hot as some here are claiming. That kind of heat would be very apparent, feeling the right side of the keyboard, or the air coming out the back of the laptop from the fan (which is barely warm air...actually almost cool air, to be honest).

well, then it must be either the laptop cooler or the fact you don't have a 7800 in your note... or you're running at such a low frequency range that the gpu stays cool.. (even lower than the standard 2D settings...) You'd be the first (and so far the only) guy I've seen posting anywhere that has an average gpu temp below 50...

i9kFanGUI broke my laptop!

Hi y'all, I'm new to this forum, but I've been posting over at the NR forum. I just thought I would pop in and warn you of my problems with i9K.

I've got a Core Duo T2300 CPU and 7800Go in my Dell e1705. My laptop has two fans that I know of, one on each side near the rear. I DLed i9k despite the warnings and it actually worked awesome for me for the first few days. I was able to blast my fans at full speed and OC my 7800 to 400/890(1780) using the XG 84 drivers. The driver showed a temp of 5C higher than i9K, but at 49C, I didn't care! My CPU temps also stayed under 30C even under load (I'm sure this was not accurate). No matter what the temps read on the screen, every square inch of my laptop was cool to the touch, even when stress testing. I was amazed...

Anyway, as I continued to use the program, but then one day I lost control access to Fan1, not just control, but it no longer even showed up... then it stopped reading the RAM and northbridge temps... then I lost control of Fan2. That's when my temps started to skyrocket, even when just web-surfing.

As it stands right now, I uninstalled the i9k program and its FanIO driver and my e1705 has not yet taken back control of the fans. So I'm effectively dead in the water... How can I get the laptop to take back control? What driver do I need to reinstall?

Well you can try a restore to before you installed it, maybe a reg setting or something, also make sure the folder that it installed to no longer exists and check your start up in the registry shows no signs of i9K starting up.

A note on your oc there "400/890(1780)" its not 400/890(1780) its halved, 400/890 (445Mhz) if you notice if you set it to stock it would be 250/650 would be showing but it actually is 250/325 =) That ram is rated at 1200Mhz same as the GTX but it is DDR so its 600X2.

The folder no longer exists, but I will check the reg. I just hope the fans didn't burn out. Dang it, I'm hosting a LAN party tonight too! Thanks for the help.

LMAO! My brain likes to make jokes at my expense...

Some X1400 info on battery, I change the setting to default for battery use on both the video card and computer. I then manually increase my LCD brightiness up almost all the way but 1 more click. I was surfing the web and doing emais, had the wife play some solitary also. at about 10 pm thats 4 hours of total use and i was a little less then 1/3 left. No batterry warning. Thats it for now.

Yup yeah better believe it. Prior to upgrading my e1705 to the 7800GTX, My laptop was using around 16watts of juice with the X1400. Now after swapping the 7800gtx in I'm burning up at 32watts average. (These are IDLE readings BTW ie surfing etc, NOT GAMING)My buddies e1705 with the version 1 7800GO consumes the same as my laptop when idle. This leads me to believe Nvidia just disables the extra pipes on the GTX to make the GO. Also I think the power difference of the GO vs GTX only come into play when gaming. Nvidia's latest chips stink at power saving. I miss the old days when ATI's vid cards where king on the laptops. ATI seems to be able to control the power consumption of their cards better at idle. OTOH I don't know how much the mobile X1800 would consume since no one seems to make use it.

Hello n0xlf

I have exactly the same problem with my new Inspiron 9400, it varies from 70°C to 80°C then cools off even when doing nothing, just the notebook being in function

I have to say that I tried 2 different Windows XPs (I formatted just as I got it), an unattended version and a XP Pro SP2, same effects

I installed Dell drivers (1. system software, 2. chipset, 3. video etc...), idem, I tried XtremG drivers, not better, and at last 84.25 ones with modified .inf, not the slightest modification as temperature is concerned

some more ideas ? thx in advance

Laptop Cooking Under BF2

I, too, have an E1705 with the vanilla Go 7800. My problem is that I can't run BF2 reliably at any setting above "Low" quality at 1024x768. If enable any of the shader, lighting or AA options the GPU overheats. I know this because the game runs fantastic for a few minutes (time inversely proportional to the number of renderer goodies I turn on), then frame rates drop dramatically. For example, at 1024x768 with all options and 4x AA, I get 40-80 FPS, then suddenly drop down to the teens and low twenties.

A quick check of the Temp panel in the Nvidia applet shows it in the upper 80 range (88+ typically). I've since downloaded Beta 3 of i8kfangui from www.diefer.de (finally, a version that works with Core Duo!) and I can now force both fans on full blast all the time. That helped slightly, however, I still get a performance degradation after playing for a while. Meanwhile, the i8kfanui reports a Peak temp value of 83 for the GPU. Since Diefer's readings seem to be exactly 10 degrees off on my box, I can deduce that in fact the GPU hit 93+ at some point and thus got throttled.

Also note that I'm not overclocking the GPU. It's running stock 250/658 settings. Worse still, BF2 ran great on this unit when it first arrived - at 1024x768 with everthing but AA turned on. Since then I've tried stock Dell drivers, 87xx series from LaptopVideo2Go, even a beta 9xx series driver - nothing seems to work and now BF2 is unplayable at anything but pedestrian video settings.

Very frustrating...any thoughts/ideas/suggestions would be greatly appreciated...

RCK