Originally Posted by dennis88
Yes, it does.
The 9700 were clocked at 450/350, if I don't remember wrong.
That is the annouced clock for the 9700 and the clock for the 9600. Not necessarily the clock on the machine. And nothing about the memory clocks.
Translated via google
"the 0,13µ-Prozess permits clock rates of up to 450 MHz. To the comparison: With the M10 is with 350 MHz conclusion."
As we all know, the 9600 is often downclocked from 350 [need I say more than the word "hp" to send shivers down all of your spine--downclocked to 275Mhz IIRC] and one could expect tha the 9700 may be downclocked as well.
The problem is (and this is for you too Dell-Machina) and pardon me for shouting THERE HAS NOT BEEN A GOOD REVIEW OF THE 9700 YET. All of the reviews have serious flaws. I think it is too soon to comment on the 9700 until:
We can compare two equivalent Dell Centrino or Sager P4 laptops. Where
1) We know the Core/Mem clock. And can compare "stock" 9600 to stock 9700 (default manufacturer clock) and;
2) We compare overclocking.
The big question with the 9700 is how far can you overclock it?
If you can overclock a 9700 to (for example) 500/300 with no artifacts--that is huge.
If you can overclock it only to 475/275 or less, than order me up a 9600 Pro Turbo. Because the 9700 isn't worth the extra $200.
The deal is, of course, marketing. ATI has introduced the 9700 into an, as yet, 5700 free world. Should the 5700 come out in a notebook and be competitive w/ the 9700, ATI may suddenly "discover" tha the 9700 can be shipped at a much higher clock rate--and voila we have the Mobility Radeon 9700 XT.
Both ATI and NVIDIA have learned from the feet of the master, Intel, how to maximize their initial investment in R&D. (Look at the 5900/5950 fiasco)