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post #1 of 29
5/22/06 at 2:59pm
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Will the Sentia m3200 run Vista when it is released?
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post #2 of 29
5/22/06 at 3:25pm
Hello Tiburongirl:

I ran the "Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor Beta" on my Sentia M3200 and it reported the following.

Congratulations! Your PC can run the core experiences of Windows Vista.

Elegant User Experience with Windows® Aero™ | No action required | This feature is supported by your computer.

Work Anywhere | Action Required Explanation | No action required This feature is supported by your computer.

Search and Organize | Action Required Explanation | No action required This feature is supported by your computer.

Strengthen Security | Action Required Explanation | No action required This feature is supported by your computer.

Link to the Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor Beta
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...r/default.mspx

Cheers!
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post #3 of 29
5/22/06 at 4:33pm
Ms. Sharky, Joelist has run Vista on an older version of the Sentia.

http://www.notebookforums.com/showth...ighlight=vista
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post #4 of 29
5/22/06 at 5:28pm
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Thanks guys!
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post #5 of 29
5/23/06 at 1:33am
I too have run an vista on an older version

Alas very slow. So to answer ur question, yes but prolly pretty slow

Ive been hearing round the campfire that to get a smooth go with vista to where the OS is close to transparent hardware wise ur gunna need/want:

64 bit Dual/Quad core cpu
1 gig DDR2 (some of the fatser clocked stuff too)
128-256mb DX10 dedicated grfx card
and a SATA2 hdd (or fast raid)to keep up w/ the rest

No these arent minimums or recomendeds, just what a couple of my classmates that work at MS tell me what they think will be needed for convenient usage-
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post #6 of 29
5/23/06 at 1:52am
Be careful of scuttlebutt; a lot of the "high powered PC needed" stuff out there is FUD from the nuttier end of the Linux spectrum.

I ran Vista on a 2 Ghz Pentium M Dothan and it was nice and snappy. My HDD was a 7200rpm ATA, so I did not need SATA II. The only place I had stacked was RAM, where I always set up laptops with 2GB.

Check my thread, I ran it fine (snappy, convienent, aeroglass) on a Sentia 223.
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post #7 of 29
5/23/06 at 3:04am
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Originally Posted by Joelist
Be careful of scuttlebutt; a lot of the "high powered PC needed" stuff out there is FUD from the nuttier end of the Linux spectrum.

I ran Vista on a 2 Ghz Pentium M Dothan and it was nice and snappy. My HDD was a 7200rpm ATA, so I did not need SATA II. The only place I had stacked was RAM, where I always set up laptops with 2GB.

Check my thread, I ran it fine (snappy, convienent, aeroglass) on a Sentia 223.

I ran it on 244, 1.6ghz, 7200hdd, 1gig ram, integrated grfx
It was anythhing but "nice and snappy".
Alot can be attribed to running glass on an 8.1 grfx card much less 9 or 10.
But still 1 gig to 2 isnt huge for average usage, and 1.6 to 2ghz is nice but not huge jump.

So maybe our definitions of nice and snappy differ.....
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post #8 of 29
5/29/06 at 7:25am
what is the difference between my sentia (silver one forgotten the name) and the m3200?
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post #9 of 29
5/29/06 at 9:11am
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Originally Posted by paperman
what is the difference between my sentia (silver one forgotten the name) and the m3200?

Sorry dude, gunna need more info than that..............
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post #10 of 29
5/29/06 at 11:24am
Well, given the timeframe when he was looking for a computer, I'd bet he's got a 223. http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=85745 Did they even make the 244's in Silver?
In any case, the difference is the video card. Their's is spiffier. But the point is pretty much moot as far as this thread is concerned as Joelist is using the same kind of computer as you an' me.
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post #11 of 29
5/29/06 at 4:16pm
yep thanks for the info.
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post #12 of 29
5/29/06 at 7:18pm
Mine is a 223, and handles Vista quite well.
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post #13 of 29
5/29/06 at 8:31pm
I was wondering, despite all these testimonies, if Vista's 3D-intensive design can run smoothly on onboard video.
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post #14 of 29
5/29/06 at 9:56pm
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Originally Posted by G.9
I was wondering, despite all these testimonies, if Vista's 3D-intensive design can run smoothly on onboard video.
Well, thus far, we've got Joelist saying 'ya, an' Arch sayin' Nah. From what I've read, most people seem to agree with Joelist. Could you have all the lights on an' still play 3d games? Doubtful. If you are curious, buy one yourself an' try it out. Not to mention the post right above here!
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Originally Posted by abluesky
Hello Tiburongirl: I ran the "Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor Beta" on my Sentia M3200 and it reported the following. Congratulations! Your PC can run the core experiences of Windows Vista. Elegant User Experience with Windows® Aero™ | No action required | This feature is supported by your computer. Work Anywhere | Action Required Explanation | No action required This feature is supported by your computer. Search and Organize | Action Required Explanation | No action required This feature is supported by your computer. Strengthen Security | Action Required Explanation | No action required This feature is supported by your computer. Link to the Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor Beta http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...r/default.mspx Cheers!
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post #15 of 29
5/30/06 at 1:01am
Im calling joes BS

233 still has garbage integrated grafix, I dont care what other specs he has, if he was leet enuf to get glass working on that card there is NO way it runs smooth period.

Noting personal joe, but Ive put it on an amd 64 3000 with an x600 512ddr400 and a raptor hdd, and it was still not "smooth"
So are u running it, no doubt, is it smooth- keep dreaming
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post #16 of 29
5/30/06 at 1:11pm
Hi Arch,

I am sorry you feel the need to call BS. However, I have had Vista loaded and running just fine on my 223. I even had Office installed on Vista and ran files and documents (like the one I posted with the screenshots).

Also, calling BS is in effect calling me a liar. I have no reason to lie, nor would I in any case.

Looking at our configs, the difference I see that could account for this is RAM. I have 2GB versus your 512. Vista has a different memory utilisation model than XP; taking much more advantage of higher RAM levels than XP does. Perhaps that is the difference?
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post #17 of 29
5/30/06 at 4:06pm
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Originally Posted by Joelist
Hi Arch,

I am sorry you feel the need to call BS. However, I have had Vista loaded and running just fine on my 223. I even had Office installed on Vista and ran files and documents (like the one I posted with the screenshots).

Also, calling BS is in effect calling me a liar. I have no reason to lie, nor would I in any case.

Looking at our configs, the difference I see that could account for this is RAM. I have 2GB versus your 512. Vista has a different memory utilisation model than XP; taking much more advantage of higher RAM levels than XP does. Perhaps that is the difference?

BY BS it could mean ur lying, it could mean we have different definitions of useability, it could mean ur not lying but also dont know what ur talking about, or it prolly means I just dont believe what your purporting regardless of the reason.

While ram may have had some issue here, every other aspect of said test system absolutely CRUSHES the specs of your laptop dude. This was not a beta2 build, which, from most accounts, has made some huge useability and polish improvements, but I imagine at the time we where using the same builds(I tried both 32 and 64 versions), I just dont see how a MUCH stronger computer that yours couldnt not run it transparently, yet thats what your cliaming??

Im not sure what grfx chip is in the 233, xtrme grfx 2,3, gma 900??
Dont know when dx9 became supported in the line but it is still far from adequate.
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post #18 of 29
5/30/06 at 9:17pm
Hi,

Arch, actually your test system is not all that more powerful than mine,

The AMD 64 3000 roughly the equal of the Pentium M Dothan 2Ghz, your raptor is a faster HDD (so you would have faster i/o), obviously your X600 beats Intel Integrated Graphics 2, but I have four times the amount of RAM (all assuming your test system is the one you spec'd in post #15).

I loaded Vista (the February CTP, not beta 2), it ran as stated in the other thread (a bit slower than XP, but not choppy and I was able to install and run apps on it). I imagine Beta 2 would be faster, but the whole reason I did it was to dispel FUD about Vista.

As to why, I still think it is my extra RAM, given that there appear to be no other differences. Possibly your copy was corrupted? Mine was not downloaded but installed off of the MSDN DVD.

Instead of calling BS and such, let's put our heads together and see if we can figure out why the difference?
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post #19 of 29
5/31/06 at 1:44am
OK so u got xtreme 2, did u hack glass or not?
Cuz that chip is only dx8.1 compliant and without reg hacks it doesnt run glass.....and when it does, it should clog the shat out of the 64mb ram it gets over a slow bus, it doesnt matter what other specs you have, this will be the weak link and slow the whole thing down.

On a side note, ur 2ghz dothan is indeed an impressive chip that I believe holds its own against the 3-3.5ghz desktop processors, but not the 64 running on all 64bit stuff. Like I said the raptor made a humanly, perceptually noticeable speed difference, so did running XP64 and Vista64- so no I dont think ur chip is on par with this one imo.

As to ram, the needs between XP and Vista are vastly different, xp runs like silk w/ 512mb, even power users usually waste anything over than a gig, yes vista looks like its gunna want more, but just because u have 4x the ram doesnt mean ur ram or system is 4x faster.

See jerks(No I meant those other jerks) I play nice too-
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post #20 of 29
6/13/06 at 6:38am
Beta 2 on my desktop.... omfg its sooo slow
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