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post #41 of 75
A 17" widescreen Centrino laptop with a M11. Best of both worlds blended toghether, and all under $2000



Cheers.
post #42 of 75

I want an ulgy brick

I want the option to make my notebook completely utilitarian so no one would even suspect that it is a notebook. Rugged outside casing like military equipment (OD Green is cool). I want the option for large, low resolution screens. WXGA and SXGA are readable for me, now keep it that way. I have to wear glasses and can't stand anything higher than 1280 x 1024 or 1440 x 900 since it hurts my eyes. I'm 23 and I don't want to have to get bi-focals just to read my screen.
post #43 of 75
How about a swappable battery that slides in rather than the stressed member unit that we now have.

A real keyboard that is typable.

Dump the CD controls.

A quick action key that takes you to talknotebooks.com that can be used anywhere like the onstar deal.
post #44 of 75
I've only had my 5680 for about a week tomorrow and the first thing that bothered me was the location of the power connector for the ac adapter why on the side?? If you put the laptop on your lap... you know "laptop?" it bumps and your thighs will put pressure on it for greater future failure possibility.



But that is my ONLY gripe, barring why no 4x dvd option when all the other major manufacturers offer 4x dvd. This laptop IS afterall suposed to rule in all the enthusiast areas.
post #45 of 75
AMD FX series Opteron 64 bit processor, ATI 9800 video card, 17' WUXGA, 80gig 7200 HDD, 1024 or more DDR Ram, hot swappable battery bays or something similar to the Electrovaya battery pad thats made out of titanium but very thin and light with a slide connect attachment under the unit much like the mini DVD players to power this unit 8 hours at the minimum, and basically nothing else needed at least to me.

last but not least a spill proof keyboard......
post #46 of 75
DVI output on all models. I believe this is all ready a new standard for them though. (It better be).

Upgradable graphics cards. I don't know if this is feasable. The technology may not really exist atm (or it may, I don't know), but there is no reason they can't at least be offering whatever the current upgradable graphics card solution for laptops is, regardless of whether future graphics cards will work with it. You can't make un upgradable graphics cards any less upgradable and the graphics card is the biggest concern by far with todays laptops.

An Athlon-64 option. As good as intel AND it has 64 bit support, which makes it worth a shot.

PCI Express and DDR2 compatability as soon as possible.

These are the most important things I can think of atm
post #47 of 75
Well I love my 8890, the only draw back it the lame speakers.
post #48 of 75
on 5680:
Upgradeable Graphics card.
Two "true" hot swap bays.
True desktop mobo running at desktop voltages and frequencies. GPU in paticular.
Less obnoxious power supply "log"
DVI out
HDTV component out
Transformered audio out (stereo line out)
"joystick" mouse added
Hot swap bays moved to left side. (so I don't have to hang my mouse below my lapdesk to insert a disk.
Scuzzy port
6-pin FireWire
And an OS that doesn't do everything automatically, unless I tell it to!
post #49 of 75
ehat do you mean the 17" doesn't have a numeric pad???? I see it in all the pics heckkkkkkkkkkk thats one of the major reasons I want a sager 17" wide....

and as for ergonimic... No way man that stuff kills my hands... my fingers are to short to type "propper" rolf

yeh more usb on the 4780 would be sweet, but I agree loosing the other conection would be a disaster, except for the 5 in 1 card reader, really who uses them these days... if it doesn't conect by usb or firewire I won't use it... well except when it comes to video but then I use av and s-video... a kickin 5.1 digital sound card with in-s and outs would rule...

Personaly I use a headset even when I am home and it has volume and mic mute right on the cords both my corded unit and my wireless headset, so volume isn't that big a deal for me...

and ok a couple years back I came across my old 5" floppys from 91' and pitched them I don't even use 3's anymore...

I am not opting for the dvd burner cuz the ones that are somewhat more reasonably priced are only one format and cost more that if I went and got an internal 8x dvd+-rw for my desctop so whats the point, yeh it would be sweet but it isn't practicle...

I am not a plastic fan and have already posted on a separate thread would love to be able to mod the machine im getting in the brushed steel aka aluminum aloy stuff.

It would be nice if all sager resellers offered lcd and accident warenty.. so far I have only seen a couple that even offer the lcd warenty addition...

as for sleave versus case, you guys saying the bag doesn't have a sleave in it? oh man now I have to find a sleave to fit the 4780 with a good sleave could just put the thing in my backpack, now I have to carry two back on my back on a bike with my bike all the way to my college at my age and im disabled heck I fall over just standing...

as for the military thing, ok im all for hardiness i was going to work with my hon on a stainless steal sleave type case with egg foam in it to help give protection from me falling down and it going dead, but I draw the line at military green... I know ive sacrificed enough for my country and the military to not have to put up with what I already put up with ie. my broken up body, but ill be da**ed if I have to look at army colors to boot....

ok ok
thats enough from me...
ps happy valentines all
post #50 of 75
I havent bought any Sager model yet, but planning to in the future. Here are my thoughts:

1. Take out the card reader.
2. Weight reduction(maybe ~8lbs on the 5680 & 8890)
3. Customize paint for the 4780.
4. Traveler Tray for the optical drive(replace the optical drive if your not using it. The notebook will weight less)

That's all I can think up for now.
post #51 of 75
The future of laptops:

Two card slots: one small form factor PCI-Express graphics slot and one small form factor PCI-Express slot, both plugging directly into the PCI-Express bus, and with access to an edge of the laptop for ports, like desktop cards. This enables upgradable universal graphics and a built-in slot for expansions such as DSP audio card, video capture card, etc.
post #52 of 75
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Originally Posted by MARQUISDARQUIS
10. How about illuminated keyboards. Apple does it. LEDs don't take that much power. Its a nice touch and so very sheek. It would eliminate the need for a laptop light.
I would really like an illuminated keyboard -- with the letters lit and maybe a subtle backlight as well. Actually, I don't see why this can't be done manually since the keys are already clear -- maybe you could remove some of them, hook up some sort of wiring/fiber optics/LEDs underneath, then put the keys back on. Does anyone think they can do this? I'm not the modding type. At any rate, yes, keyboard lights would be great. With a switch to turn them off and on, of course -- not always on.
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11. NO! No! No to the notion of the mini joy stick instead of a touchpad.
You know NOTHING! Eraser-head pointers are the best. I hate touchpads but the eraserheads are nice; IBM and Dell give you both so you can use whatever you prefer. Another alternative would be trackballs but no one seems to use those anymore. Maybe it's because of the volume.
post #53 of 75
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Originally Posted by CGameProgrammer
I would really like an illuminated keyboard -- with the letters lit and maybe a subtle backlight as well. Actually, I don't see why this can't be done manually since the keys are already clear -- maybe you could remove some of them, hook up some sort of wiring/fiber optics/LEDs underneath, then put the keys back on. Does anyone think they can do this? I'm not the modding type. At any rate, yes, keyboard lights would be great. With a switch to turn them off and on, of course -- not always on.

You know NOTHING! Eraser-head pointers are the best. I hate touchpads but the eraserheads are nice; IBM and Dell give you both so you can use whatever you prefer. Another alternative would be trackballs but no one seems to use those anymore. Maybe it's because of the volume.
Eraser-head pointers are a real pain in the A$$!!!!! If you know nothing - you would know that, then again you said you like it??? What do I know???
post #54 of 75
Modular design. Stop welding the $%#@& thing together into one hunk.

And give me a website where I can order any part I want.

Oh, and I'll second the VME slot option.
post #55 of 75
Kesh, I meant I wanted the option to have it painted OD Green. I don't want it mandatory, like that horrible blue Dell uses way too much.
post #56 of 75
I'd like to see a less bouncy keyboard. My 5680 has a little too much spring to it.
post #57 of 75
mp3 playback without starting the comp on 4780 would be nice.
post #58 of 75
Here ya go:

More realistic laptop battery life.. I don't care how you get it done... GET IT DONE! [NP8887].

If The last option isn't realistic, a friggen clip or something for fast swappable batteries, this screw thing SUCKS..

Make it be able to support 2 batteries at once (maybe one where that mp3 player goes).

ENTER KEY ENTER KEY ENTER KEY that isn't f'in verticle! WTF was the designer thinking on this one?

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post #59 of 75
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Originally Posted by shade73
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ENTER KEY ENTER KEY ENTER KEY that isn't f'in verticle! WTF was the designer thinking on this one?
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Funny you should say that, I have an 8890 and it's horizontal, I asked PCT at the time if it would be possible to fit an 8887 keyboard because I much prefer the vertical enter key, it wasnt unfortunately so I'm stuck with it, but I'm getting used to it (most if not all of Europe uses the vertical design).
post #60 of 75
What I'd like to see is a marriage between the Sager 8890 and an HP zd7000...

As to the successor to the 8890, I'd like to see:

17" W-UXGA screen. A 17" wide screen is really amazing, but I'd love to see it in UXGA. Surprisingly, the colors on the HP's 17" XGA+ screen are just as good as the Sager's 16" UXGA 8890. I've seen and compared them side by side, and the only difference I can tell is that the colors on the HP are a bit more vibrant - by default at least. Apart from the resolution difference, the Sager's screen isn't any sharper as far as I can tell. But it would be nice to see the resolution of the Sager coupled with the size, wide-screen format, and vibrancy of the HP.

Better keyboard layout and a better keyboard period. Take a look at the keyboard layout on the HP zd7000 laptop - the best layout I've ever seen (slight spacing/separation between the keyboard and the numeric keypad; proper placement of the 'Del', 'Ins', 'Ctrl', and 'Fn' keys; even nice grouping/separation between all of the Function keys on top of the keyboard; and a much better numeric keypad layout). This also means NO disassembling the keyboard to fix knocking noises (why are people having to do this in the first place?!? - like anyone should have to do that with a brand new $3000 or $4000 laptop - which is absolutely ridiculous. Could you imagine Dell or Gateway or HP or Apple making people do this? It would be like having a brand new Mercedes delivered to your door, but you have make some adjustments to the hood first - flexing it and adding rubber stoppers - to make sure the hood doesn't rattle while you drive. WTG??? Who needs lessons on design and manufacturing here - Clevo or Sager or both? You can find a better keyboard on an $800 laptop than on this thing). While you're at it, backlight the whole thing, too. It's about time we start seeing this on laptops anyway.

Better placement of Firewire and USB ports. Again, take a look at how the Firewire and USB ports are arranged on the HP zd7000. The way they have one Firewire and one USB on the side of the laptop (which will allow for much, much easier access to both of these ports for when you're plugging in still and video cameras, thumb drives, and other peripherals), and the way HP has the remaining three USB ports on the back of the laptop arranged - horizontally and side by side, instead of stacked on top of one another (allowing enough room to utilize all the ports at once while having larger things plugged into them, like dongles or thumb drives, etc.). It wouldn't hurt to have powered Firewire ports and it might be nice to have one on the back and one on the side.

Spring-loaded doors on the PC Card slots. This is seriously quite odd to me that these weren't installed on the 8890. When you remove the Multicard reader out of the right side of the 8890, you can see it has spring-loaded doors... so why don't the PC card slots have these? Yes, yes, I know that there are those stupid black plastic inserts, but these are ugly, and they're just loose pieces of plastic... it's not only two more little pieces that you have to contend with, but if you ever misplaced them, you'd have a huge gaping hole in the left side of your laptop where dirt and dust and other foreign objects could find their way into your system. Not everyone has either one or both of these slots filled at all times. And why is this even something that needs to be suggested?!? Please fix this yesterday!

Get rid of non-functioning items in the chassis... in fact, just redesign the whole chassis! Why do we have a non-functioning, unusable Memory Stick slot on the left side of the 8890? Why do we have a non-functioning fingerprint reader in the upper right-hand corner right above the keyboard? I realize that others may not care, but others do. And for this much money, this just seems like a chassis afterthought. And please get rid of that ugly unbacklit, old, cheap alarm clock-type display on the front that is mostly useless. Toshiba used to have these displays on the front, but they knew enough to angle them upward so you could actually read the display, and to put in a dot-matrix display and to also give them a nice, strong blue backlighting so you could, once again, read and actually make use of the display. If the designers want to leave a display on the front, then please do like Toshiba did. And please get rid of that cheap tin badge on the 8890 that's affixed upside down - put something of higher quality on there and please affix it so that it can be read when the laptop is opened up and in use (attention to details is important). The 8890 chassis is very outdated and feels like it too (like something you might find at Radio Shack, circa 1980's) and needs a complete 21st century redesign from the ground up. (Take a look at the HP zd7000 chassis - it's styling, the LED's, it's fit and finish... this is more of what the 8890 successor needs to be).

Better speakers. Please! Again, look to the HP zd7000 - the best speakers I've ever heard on a laptop. The whole front is a speaker. And HarmonKardon at that. This is what the Sager needs. We need to see better components on the sound end of things on Sagers - they're too expensive not to have it. Laptops have been offering great graphics, but the sound quality has been neglected for so long and it's overdue.

Better placement of the Irda port for use with a remote control... and a nicer remote control. Any laptop with a TV tuner, should always come with a remote control as does the 8890. But the Irda port needs to be removed from the side and placed on the front somewhere or perhaps a second one added to the front somewhere - like right under the screen perhaps. Normally, you'd point the remote straight at the computer screen anyway... this way, commands from the remote would be easily received. There's a reason why Irda ports are found on the front of TV's and not on the side, like you'd find with the 8890. And while you're at it, throw in a more functional, better looking, teachable remote that can control the DVD/CD player and other functions.

Get rid of the high-pitched whirr of the fans. The fans aren't loud to me - but they have this annoying high-pitched whirr that gets to you after awhile. You listen to the fans on the HP zd7000 which also has desktop components in it, and although they'll blow a lot of air, they aren't annoying to listen to. Some people don't care, but a lot of us do, and this can grate on the nerves after awhile.

G-band WiFi. Mini-USB was clearly an early-tech-adoption experiment that backfired. Why do we not have G-band Wifi on a $4000 laptop? This needs to be solved.

And of course, fuel cell batteries - and no screws. But these probably won't be available for another year or two. At least allow the batteries to be easily removable. Having to unscrew your battery is an outdated design.
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