Im The MAking ( a deaktop ) : anyone ever made a desktop - Page 2

no, thats just the model of the cpu

TBH.
I actually got confused with the way AMD is named and the Clock speed/Processing power of the newer CPU's.

I am stuck at teh time when Clock Speed was the easy way of determining how powerful the CPU is.

Now I just Pre-ordered a Sager 5760 and it will have an Intel PM 2.0ghz yet it will be more powerful than a Intel P4 3.0ghz!

IS there even a site that list how powerful the CPU's are , in order, from the last 10-20 yrs?

Just realized this as I bought my 3 yr old a very cheap desktop with an AMD Sempron 3200+.
No idea what the processing power is comparative to a P4 as thats teh only thing I know off to compare things with at this time

I think I got my wishlist working. Try this link, and let me know if it works. That comes to about 1150, and is quite a decent setup. And extra 150 would get you the X2 3800+. And there are many things that could be edited down or up to hit your price range.

Amd's model numbers were originally based off of Intel. Intel was based off clockspeed. So Intel would call their processor a P4 3.8 ghz. Amd would then call the comparable processor that they had a 3800+. But now Intel changed the numbering scheme, and they have absolutely no relation now. What Amd's modeling scheme will do is give you an idea of performance related to other processors that it makes.

Conroe pricing: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2547
What you're looking at is the middle of the first chart where it says C2D. At http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2713&p=1, you can see preliminary benchies for Conroe. But the hardware for this was set up by Intel. Take that as you will. Further explored.
Unless you REALLY want cutting edge, I wouldn't recommend waiting for Conroe. People almost always have issues of some kind with first-second gen hardware, and you would probably prefer stability. And it comes out in July, meaning availability could be quite bad, as well as there being the possility of price-jacking.
Playing the waiting game is dangerous. You're always waiting for the next big thing, but there's always another big thing coming along after that. Who knows when you should stop?
You can probably get a 250gb for $80. I got a 160 gb for 40.
Again, good luck.

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html

you can pick different tests at the top. Look at the movie encoding ones, since that's what you will be doing.

Last question first:

Dell has just recently started using AMD. In their servers. Why now, I have no idea. Speculation says that Dell was getting cheaper prices from Intel for going exclusive. Though technically, now that Dell owns Alienware, they can claim that they use AMD...
Apple? Apple's just weird. But anyway, Apples used to use IBM processors, and then they started using Intels. Speed issues or something. I don't know why they chose Intel over AMD, but I believe that they aren't easily switchable is because Intel built those processors specifically for Apple, with strange tech that nobody else uses.

Btw, AMD had price drops in mid-May, I believe.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2041

This may affect upgradeability, at least in the long term, but AMD is just now switching to socket AM2. They're selling for roughly the same amount as 939, and are already possible to find. Unfortunately, as of right now, it offers almost no performance increase.

I would assume that AMD is going to drop prices further, or they'll get slaughtered by Conroe.

Also, it is possible to get processors from AMD for under a $100, but they have to be socket 754 (budget) or AM2. I coulda sworn they had Semprons on 939, but I didn't see any when I just looked.

They're supposed to have already dropped. As in May '06.
As I said before, I think AMD is gonna drop prices again. Hopefully, since they're switching to a new socket, the old socket will become budget. I think that waiting for a response to Conroe would be a good idea. Heck, if prices are good, you could even get a Conroe.

Heh. I think the cheapest 939 I saw on Newegg was 105ish. You can actually get AM2s for less than 100.

I'm not positive (those classes come NEXT semester), but I think the sockets being upgraded has to do with the complexity of the circuitry. As the processors become more and more complicated, the interface with the motherboard becomes more and more complicated. For instance, AM2 is being used to add support for DDR2 memory, which was previously unsupported by AMD. The problem isn't that they switch sockets, its that they do it a month and a half after you upgrade.

Oh, btw, just saw this:
Intel has also put out an advisory saying it will aggressively sell its 9xx and 8xx dual-core processors between June 4, 2006 and July 23, 2006 in order to dump inventory before the Conroe launch.

I don't know what socket Conroe's on, and I'm too tired to continue looking.

People are already getting the conroe up to 4.2Ghz on air

I hadn't heard THAT. And considering how Conroe was owning the FX-60? at 2.6 ghz..... (supposedly. We'll see how it measures up after release.)

You've got three pages... Congrats.

I don't know if you've noticed, but it gets quiet around here when there are no questions. Is there anything you want to know, or should we post completely random non-related things?

Like this?

Pretty much.

Right now just seems like not the best time to upgrade the computer. What with all these new processors coming out, and performance somewhat unknown...

Then again, what do I know, I'm still using the system we built 8 years ago. With upgrades...

Edit: It appears that Conroe will run on LGA-775.(socket)

internal or external what

I think you mean internal or external HD?

internal = cheaper and faster

external = mobility

so its really your choice