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intel pro wireless 2200BG Network card problem

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Problem : connection drops in speeed all the time

I have updated to the latest driver for my 2200BG adapter and the latest firmware for my netgear dg834g router but i still suffer drops in connection. This happens when I am playing online games such as FEAR. I will go into a game and for about 2 minutes the ping will be stable at 35-60 (occasionally jumping to 200) but after about 2-3 minutes the ping starts to rocket to 400, then to 800 then into the 1000's region and i suffer from major packet loss. The intel software says my connection is "very good" and power management is set to maximum and i dont have any radio interferences around my laptop (apart from radio in next room which is usually off). Ive tried various "fixes" like changing to g only and changing the channel etc. on various forums but it just doesnt work.

Please help me.. im just a poor man trying to get by and this is how i get treated.. i have an gateway mx8554b laptop...
post #2 of 17
Thread Starter 
is there anyone on this forum that can help?
post #3 of 17
Have you tried hardwiring into your router with a network cable? It could be the router that is at fault and overheating with the all the activity or even your internet connection. I would also try updating the firmware on the router and temporarily disable all security on the wireless (just remember to turn it back on after testing).

I have heard that using older versions of the Intel Proset may be more stable than the new releases. I have been using v8.1.0 for a while on my 2200B/G with no drops (on my end anyway).
post #4 of 17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ViolatorX
Have you tried hardwiring into your router with a network cable? It could be the router that is at fault and overheating with the all the activity or even your internet connection. I would also try updating the firmware on the router and temporarily disable all security on the wireless (just remember to turn it back on after testing).

I have heard that using older versions of the Intel Proset may be more stable than the new releases. I have been using v8.1.0 for a while on my 2200B/G with no drops (on my end anyway).

I will try the hardwiring method soon (once i get a new ethernet cable). The overheating may be a problem.. ive noticed that in the mornings when i start using the internet for about 5-10 minutes the connection is perfect, low pings and then it all goes wrong and through the day it gets worse. So maybe?? The router is updated, and there is no security on it that i have enabled (i have windows firewall) .

Where can i get an older version of the driver? The new drivers actually made my connection MORE stable than it was on the previous driver, so is this really a good idea for me? Thanks for your help
post #5 of 17
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Originally Posted by bonez1
The router is updated, and there is no security on it that i have enabled (i have windows firewall) .

The security we are talking about keeps people off your network. That could be your problem right there. If your router is not locked down, it could be that nobody is on the network in the morning, but by the afternoon, you have all your neighbors stealing your connection.

Do you live in a dorm or apartment complex? That would make it even worse.
post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 
lol that would be so criminal. But i live in a detached house and I have 1 neighbour who is an old woman who doesnt use the internet.

I also get this message at some times when i try to sign into msn, but other times i can sign in perfectly, i go into msn troubleshooter and this is what comes up:

Ive also noticed that Opera and before that Firefox load pages so slowly, like a 1k dial up connection.. but when i use the AOL browser the pages load up faster (but still not at modem performance). All this time my connection says its running at 48 mbps... which is utter Bs
post #7 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by bonez1
lol that would be so criminal. But i live in a detached house and I have 1 neighbour who is an old woman who doesnt use the internet.

You would be surprised. Most people don't even know they are doing it if their pc is set to automatically connect to any available network. Having no security features enabled means that any wireless device within range can connect to your router and subsequently use your connection even without the users input. I would strongly suggest using at least some type of encryption and MAC address filtering.

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Ive also noticed that Opera and before that Firefox load pages so slowly, like a 1k dial up connection.. but when i use the AOL browser the pages load up faster (but still not at modem performance). All this time my connection says its running at 48 mbps... which is utter Bs

Again, this is purely up to your internet connection and router. The 48mbps only tells you how fast the wireless signal is between you and the router. If the internet connection is acting up, but your wireless signal is perfect, you would still have crappy performance like you are experiencing.

My money is on the modem and followed by the router. If you can, try plugging your PC directly into the modem via a network cable. You may need to reset the modem (power it off for 10-15 secs) in order for it recognize your PC.
post #8 of 17
Change your card mate. It sucks i know but i had the 2200 and it caused me no end of problems.

I played a lot of WoW at that point and it used to cause me no end of hassle getting disconnected every 20-40 mins.

I tried no end of things and finally narrowed it down the card (i also found reference to other people having the same problem).

I swapped out my card for an atheros based one from ebay and i've never had the problem since.
post #9 of 17
Ahh AOL

For me AOL requires a different (from the Router's default) MTU of 1400. Look on their website in your region to see what they advice.

You shold be capable of checking if someone elseisattached to your network: the router should be capable of showing the attached devices when you log into it

And indeed as ViolatorX mentions try hardwiring to see if wireless is the actual problem.
And if you conclude wireless is the problem you can try a different channel.
Alos see if there are more access points available. It may be that Windows is checking the signal strengths and tries to connect to one of the others (if stronger).
You can avoid this by disabling Windows Zero configuration and using Intels connection tool.

Also check (e.g. with www.grc.com) if your ISP, your hardware firewall (probably you have one in the router) or your software firewall blcoks ports needed for the game.
Easy by disabling the hard ans soft and running GRC to see if the ISP blocks ports.
Maybe you need to do something with port forwarding (see router and windows networking manuals)

BTW AOL also squezes your usage (like many other providers). Formally you are probably on unlimited, but they run softs to measure your usage, and will squeeze heavy users out a bit during primetime.

And last but not least, if everybody in your neighbourhood moved to ADSL (or cable internet) that may be part of the problem. At the end of the day all pipes are limited.

That's all I can think of
hope some ofit helps

Cheers

Drio
post #10 of 17
Ahh AOL

For me AOL requires a different (from the Router's default) MTU of 1400. Look on their website in your region to see what they advice.

You should be capable of checking if someone elseisattached to your network: the router should be capable of showing the attached devices when you log into it

And indeed as ViolatorX mentions try hardwiring to see if wireless is the actual problem.
And if you conclude wireless is the problem you can try a different channel.
Alos see if there are more access points available. It may be that Windows is checking the signal strengths and tries to connect to one of the others (if stronger).
You can avoid this by disabling Windows Zero configuration and using Intels connection tool.

Also check (e.g. with www.grc.com) if your ISP, your hardware firewall (probably you have one in the router) or your software firewall blcoks ports needed for the game.
Easy by disabling the hard ans soft and running GRC to see if the ISP blocks ports.
Maybe you need to do something with port forwarding (see router and windows networking manuals)

BTW AOL also squezes your usage (like many other providers). Formally you are probably on unlimited, but they run softs to measure your usage, and will squeeze heavy users out a bit during primetime.

And last but not least, if everybody in your neighbourhood moved to ADSL (or cable internet) that may be part of the problem. At the end of the day all pipes are limited.

That's all I can think of
hope some ofit helps

Cheers

Drio
post #11 of 17
OOPS, I guess I am pushed the schizo button
post #12 of 17
Thread Starter 
thanks Drio, i actually had the router running PERFECTLY yesterday and the day before with no lag and no spikes.. i didnt change anything it just decided to fix itself.. and now this morning the problem looks like its back and i am getting the spikes again. My MTU is 1400.. www.grc.com? i cant see any link to test my firewall it just comes up with a program download sprite or sumthin. Also i ran Intels wireless even veiwer troubleshooter and this is what i got, and clue about how i can fix this??

post #13 of 17
It's the shieldsUp link
post #14 of 17
it seems to switch between the MS client and the IntelPro client each time before itbreaks down.

somewhere in the intelpro client there is a setting where you can choose to use the MS client. See if changing makes any diference.

If you stick with IntelPRO you can disable windows zero configuration in services. According to some messages here and elsewhere this interferes when you are using another client (like IntelPRO)

haven't a clue what this CTA plugin is doing there (and what it is).You'll have to google that one.
Isn't it something from Cisco(Linksys) have you had another adsl/router soft installed before?
Maybe it left some devices in device manager: show hidden devices and look under non plug and play.
I had this when I tesed the USB netgear adapter that came with the Netgear modem/router, just disabled them. but they didn't interfere with intelPro.

But does it have the same problems when hardwired (if so it may not be your wireless).

as usual, just my 2c

Cheers

Drio
post #15 of 17
last, are you sure you actually have an intel adapter in your machine, some suppliers deliver the same model with varying adapters.
May that explains the CTA
post #16 of 17

Easy test

I have this card(INtel 2200bg wifi) in my laptop and when I use "Kanotix live cd" it works flawlessly. I login at a coffee shop and sometimes I have trouble getting winXP logins but hardly ever in Kanotix. Downloads are flawless in Kanotix. The Kanotix easter edition is the best so far. By the way, don't use Zonealarm as a firewall, it used to crash my system everytime I logged into a wireless site. I use Sygate instead.
post #17 of 17
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Originally Posted by bonez1
is there anyone on this forum that can help?
Bonez1 I may have the solution to your wireless problem and its intel that gives it and this is it: PSP (Power Save Polling) Causes Connection Issues With Some Access Points Symptom(s): If the wireless access point / wireless gateway does not properly support the PSP feature, intermittent loss of wireless connection, inability to initiate a wireless connection, or poor wireless connection data performance could result. The symptoms may be more pronounced when on battery power. Cause: In a mobile environment, power save polling mode is a feature for extended battery life for mobile stations. The capability requires coordination between the access point and the laptop's wireless adapter for proper operations. Intel has discovered the feature may not be implemented correctly or completely in some wireless access points or wireless gateway devices. Solution: Contact the access point vendor for an updated software which corrects the problem. As a temporary workaround, manually set the adapter to CAM (continually aware mode), which disables the PSP capability. To do this, in either IntelĀ® PROSet for Wireless Software or the Network Control Panel Applet (NCPA), in the power management section, uncheck the DEFAULT / AUTO selection and set the slider for HIGHEST / MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE Notes: To ensure the adapter is set to CAM - if the slider is already at the HIGHEST / MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE setting, move the slider to another setting and then back to HIGHEST / MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE. On my computer you have to highlight the 3rd choice called "Power Management" uncheck the "use default value" and then move the slider to "highest" setting. I've tried the workaround and the wifi works flawlessly. If you need more details let me know.
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