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post #21 of 28
Hi bud,
There is no freeware out there for partitioning, or rather, there isn't one that I know of. However, partitioning is a 10 minute job, and to pay money for that is ridiculous. I would recommend downloading the trial version of acronis diskdirector from here : http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing.../diskdirector/
If you can't get it to work, PM me and I will try to help you.
post #22 of 28
I would reccommend pirating Partition Magic if you only need it for a couple minutes. Ya you antipiracynuts heard me, PIRATE IT.

Edit: YARRRGHHHH !!!
post #23 of 28
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Originally Posted by Chakz
I would reccommend pirating Partition Magic if you only need it for a couple minutes. Ya you antipiracynuts heard me, PIRATE IT.

Edit: YARRRGHHHH !!!
post #24 of 28
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Originally Posted by Chakz
I would reccommend pirating Partition Magic if you only need it for a couple minutes. Ya you antipiracynuts heard me, PIRATE IT.

Edit: YARRRGHHHH !!!


I'll let you go this time Chakz
post #25 of 28
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Originally Posted by Eniqmah
Hi,
I will post my experience with partitioning, hoping it will help whoever agrees with it and ALSO hoping that those who disagree with it won't reply and insult me or my feeble knowledge of the subject. Please don't argue because I won't reply.

To each, his or her own. As I've said numerous times there's no right solution for everybody.

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In my experience, placing the swapfile on a second hard drive's partition helps increase the speed and performance of my desktop.

The swap file is still on the same physical hard drive, which doesn't become faster just by partitioning it differently. Placing the swap file on a different physical hard drive - that would make a difference.

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On my laptop, using the RAM as the pagefile also helps increase the speed of applications and boot process.

Placebo effect. All you're doing is taking away RAM that applications could have been using, making it more likely they'll use swap instead - but then they don't have enough swap available.

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However, because of the limited amount of RAM, running many applications that altogether require more RAM than is available will crash and has crashed my system.

Just one of the reasons why the above is inadvisable.

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In partitioning, I put my data on a separate partition in the following manner:
1. Partition 1: C drive.
2. Partition 2: Data + Image of C drive.
3. External Clone of the above partitioned hard drive.

As I said, fine. Might be a good setup for you.

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I've never lost a piece of data and have never been forced to reinstall everything because of this set up, keep in mind that I often catch viruses and spyware.

Why do so many people in this thread have such frequent problems with viruses and spyware, but believe they're qualified to comment on other issues, is what I'm wondering...

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Is it safer and more efficient for me to do this than to have everything on a single drive? I think so, but I won't say it, because some one will argue with the point and I would have to waste my time with cyber-disagreements and insults. Would I ever change from this config? Nope. Why not? Because it has worked for me for countless years ( well, really only 5). So take from it what you would, and forgive my arrogance.

No, I won't disagree with you. If you're not able to keep viruses and spyware off your machine, keeping multiple versions of your system that you can roll back to is probably a good thing, even if it greatly reduces the hard drive space available to you.

As I keep saying though, there's no right solution for everybody.
post #26 of 28
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Originally Posted by Chakz
I would reccommend pirating Partition Magic if you only need it for a couple minutes. Ya you antipiracynuts heard me, PIRATE IT.

Edit: YARRRGHHHH !!!

Remember that you don't have to buy full retail, either - I found Partition Magic, current version, for $18 via pricegrabber.com as an OEM disk (rather than $70 or $80 list). Worked great, took me about 5 minutes to merge C: and D: partitions into a single one, and it works fine.

It wasn't worth list price to me, but was worth $18 - now I have it to use again, if my needs change.
post #27 of 28
@gweilo, just two things, 'cause I don't have a time:
- swap file even on the same drive, but on it's own FAT16 partition on the fastest part of disk WILL improve speed compared to paging on random part of one big NTFS partition.
- I don't understand what is so strange in virus infections. Virus definitions are available slightly later than viruses themself, so there is always a chance to catch one, even with good heuristic module. We are not talking about permanent system crashes caused by viruses - but virus infection could potentialy cause one, right?
BTW, do you have spare weel in your car?
post #28 of 28
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Originally Posted by jaad75
@gweilo, just two things, 'cause I don't have a time:
- swap file even on the same drive, but on it's own FAT16 partition on the fastest part of disk WILL improve speed compared to paging on random part of one big NTFS partition.

Any difference in speed between a properly optimised single partition install, and a mutiple partition install with the swap file on a separate partition, will be negligible. What you don't understand is that your FAT16 partition is just some "random part" (as you put it) of your hard drive - in exactly the same way that it would be when formatted as a single partition. Your limitations are still the read speed of the drive, and the time taken to move the heads from whatever was last accessed to the relevant part of the platters to read / write the swap file, then process that data, and then go to the next location on the disk for the next file access.

That's why putting the swap file on a separate drive is advantageous - it saves you the time in moving heads back and forth between different locations on the disk. It is also why RAID 0 works, because you can combine the read speeds from multiple drives reading / writing data in parallel with each other.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redunda...t_disks#RAID_0

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- I don't understand what is so strange in virus infections. Virus definitions are available slightly later than viruses themself, so there is always a chance to catch one, even with good heuristic module. We are not talking about permanent system crashes caused by viruses - but virus infection could potentialy cause one, right?

Yes, as I have said several times, scanners are only one part of the process. You also require educated users who are intelligent enough not to run programs whose provenance is unknown, and admins who are intelligent enough to keep their systems patched, secure, firewalled, and properly configured so as to minimise the risk of an infection (and the potential for damage should an infection occur).

The fact you guys are so frequently getting viruses suggests to me that you're lacking some or all of the above.

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BTW, do you have spare weel in your car?

Yes. What does that have to do with this discussion? My spare wheel doesn't hinder my ability to get the best performance out of the other wheels on the car...
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