NotebookForums.com › Forums › General Notebook Discussions › Linux & Other OS's › 5720 and Linux n00b
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

5720 and Linux n00b - Page 2

post #21 of 33
Thread Starter 
Ok, Update, I managed to burn the ISO and boot from it, and Im posting this from Ubuntu. (slow cause of the Live CD but pretty nice) so I'll probably do the actual partitioning tonight. I still have no idea of the actual sizes of the partitions (well just the 4gb swap) so any ideas are welcome.

I'll probably print this out/and or have another computer with me at the time..(5 or 6 hours time)

w00t linux!
post #22 of 33
4GB swaP???? Why so large?? You really don't need any more then 1 gig for swap. I build servers with less swap then 4 gig. For a workstation its a waste of space. I would set up something like the following:
Partition 1: / somewhare between 5-10 gig.
Partition 2: /swap 1Gig
Partition 3: /home the rest of the drive

For root or / you won't be needing a huge amount of space. This is where all your system files and programs are stored. There is also things like log files and all the library files (dll's in windows). No personal data is stored here, so Id say if you can spare it, make it no more than 10 Gig and no less then 5gig.
Swap we already disscussed. There isn't any need for anything over 1 gig on a workstation/desktop.
/home is where all personal data is kept. All documents, games, mp3, and anything else. This is a partition that needs to be as big as you can. Also, by keeping /home seperate, when you do an upgrade it won't be formated.

Here is my present laptop layout. I dual boot but never use the windows partiton. The only reason I even have it is because my modem isn't supported. When I'm on the road and i need to use a modem connection I boot windows.
Partition 1; Winxp 8 Gig w/5.3 gig used(ntfs)
Partition 2: / root 8 gig w/3.3 gig used(ext3)
Partition 3: /swap 1 gig (swap)
Partition 4: /home 56 gig. w/13 gig used(ext3)

This setup works great. My system specs are below and I very rarely even use any swap. Only when Playing Half-life 2 or Quake 4. Even then its minimal and around 100MB.

Take a look at the How to on my site it will get you going in no time.
http://www.linuxloader.com/modules.p...howpage&pid=28

PDR60
post #23 of 33
dont do partitioning on day one and install on day 2.....the linux instlaler on the livecd has a partitioning tool which is powerful enough to do that as you install. just get clicking. you'll have a native ubuntu install within 20 minutes.

you have a 100gb drive right?

windows -- 40
swap -- 4
fat32 shared -- 36
linux --20

EDIT:
he brings up a good idea to split the / and the /home......

why 4gb swap..... he has 2 gig of ram and if you read some wikis many recommend to have at least as much, if not double the swap compared to the amount of ram. SO like i have a gig of ram so i keep my swap @ 2gb.... This has something to do with the way suspend2 loads stuff that you'll need the extra large swap.
post #24 of 33
Thread Starter 
umm ok so let me go over this

I reinstall Win XP...shirk it to 35-40 gigs?

then I boot up with the live CD and hit install, it takes me o the partitioner:

XP...shirk it to 35-40 gigs?

Partition 1; Winxp 35-40 gigs (ntfs)
Partition 2: /root ?gigs used(ext3)
Partition 3: /swap 4gigs (swap)
Partition 4: /home ?gig (ext3)
partition 5: Shared-whatever is left from the above (Fat32 right?)

Umm ok..I think I get it.
What is the diference between /root and /home? Why would making em separete help?
post #25 of 33
/home is where the documents and files of all the users are stored. think of it as the "my documents" folder...except for its a bit more than that. it also saves the config files there to all your installed programs (for example the firefox profiles are stored in /home/username/.mozilla). / (root) is the base directory which includes everything else. To separate them has 1 big advantage as to if you're going to install a different distro, or if your distro breaks...your files are still gonna be safe b/c most installers allow you to "save the /home" which will not overwrite those files so when the install finishes all your stuff is still there.

i really dont see the point of using ext3 anymore... reiserfs v3 is very stable and faster than ext3...so i'd just use that.

if you're gonna go fresh like that even reinstalling windows then this is the steps:

1. Boot livecd fire up "cfdisk" in terminal and create your partitions (dont asign filesystem to them yet, just make it general (make sure your shared partition is fat32)....save and write to disk. shut down

2. Boot with windows installer and install to the partition you created to be your windows, have the windows installer format it to ntfs, carry on the process as normal.

3. Boot the ubuntu livecd and hit the installer. follow instructions to configure the rest (/root /home swap). you should be good to go then.
post #26 of 33
Ext3 vs ReiserFS is a discussion that really requires more knowledge of FS internals than most of us have ABF

At any rate Ext3 still is better supported cross platform than reiser, and for many people it is easier, and you dont really notice a difference at all in most computing tasks. Very few times do you have to worry about what FS, and most of those arent done on a laptop

The point does still stand about the size of your swap, that does seem large, even to me.

Seablade
post #27 of 33
Thread Starter 
hmm I still dont know the sizes...

Im gonna finnish transfering my files and then do it.

Thanks everyone (especialy abf) for all their help, hopefully in a couple hours I'll be done!
post #28 of 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by seablade

The point does still stand about the size of your swap, that does seem large, even to me.

Seablade


i am just saying what i read. most distros recommend setting the swap to AT LEAST the amount of ram (swap = ram) some say 1.5x and some as much as 2x just to be safe with suspending to disk (suspend2disk puts file into swap as far as i can remember). So perhaps he doesn't need 4gb swap, but at least 2gb for sure.
post #29 of 33
Thread Starter 
So I think this is it:

Windows- 25 gigs (hopefully this will be limited to games so its gonna get as lean as possible)

swap- 4 gigs

/root-8 gigs

/home - 15 gigs

shared = 22 gigs

Im not sure there is some order I have to put em in so im gonna go with this

Windows
Shared
/home
/root
/swap

Thanks everyone for all your help.... just one more question (for now)
If I were to have all my personal stuff (mp3s/documents etc.) in my shared partition, would I have any need for the /home partition? would it actualy save me any trouble?
post #30 of 33
prolly not. just go ahead and make /home and /root the same thing....just 1 complete linux partition. make things easy on yourself.

ps,,,getting totally mad errors in msn...you got aol or something?
post #31 of 33
Thread Starter 
woah..this is nice...darn I need drivers... and to figure this thing out XD

Well thanks for all your help again!
post #32 of 33
before you do anything install automatix

www.getautomatix.com it will get you started on most things. its a script that will automatically install and configure certain applications and packages with just a few clicks of a mouse rather quickly and painlessly
post #33 of 33
Never using suspend to disk I cant comment on that, I can comment that I have never needed a swap to that size, and that calculation itself is actually left over from the days when 32 MB of Ram was large.

Seablade
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Linux & Other OS's
NotebookForums.com › Forums › General Notebook Discussions › Linux & Other OS's › 5720 and Linux n00b