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MacBook Problems! ...What Problems?

post #1 of 15
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I have seen a lot of hype about heat issues on the MacBook (and MacBook Pro), the keyboard design and layout on the MacBook, and so on. I ignored these rumors and ordered a Macbook anyways and have been using it for the last three days. Allow me to straighten some things out here for those of you who may be skeptical of buying a MacBook due to some of the rediculous rumors people have been spreading about this fine machine.

Heat Issues:
I cannot say for the MacBook Pro as I have never touched one. However, as far as MacBooks go, there is no "heat problem." It runs at normal temperatures; if you take any old PC notebook and a MacBook and run them both for the same amount of time under the same amount of strain and touch the bottom of both of them, they will feel pretty much the same. The MacBook is no hotter than any other normal notebook I have ever encountered in my life. There are no heat issues. I have even seen some go as far as to say that they had to put the notebook on a desk because the heat got too unbearable. This is extremely exaggerated. The MacBook doesn't get that hot; I have been using mine on my lap for the last three hours straight and I feel fine. Don't believe the hype.

Keyboard Layout:
Let me start off by saying that people create hype about the MacBook's keyboard based solely off of pictures, and most have never even tried typing on it. It looks different than other notebook keyboards, yes, but let me assure you that the keyboard is just like any other notebook keyboard in existence as far as spacing between the keys is concerned. I can type just fine on this thing, and it is no harder than typing on any other notebook keyboard. As a matter of fact, I would even say that the MacBook has the finest keyboard that I have ever encountered on a notebook. I actually find it easier to type on it than on a standard keyboard. It may take a day or two to get used to, but once you do you will most likey come to love it.

I have also heard people say that the MacBook is uncomfortable to use. Once again I strongy disagree with such a statement. This is the most comfortable notebook I have ever laid hands on. I love it. Everything is confortable and easy to use, even the trackpad (with the exception of this minor issue).

Gaming:
Finally, gaming. I have not yet been able to get my hands on a Windows XP CD with Service Pack 2 included, so I have not yet been able to boot up windows and try to game with my MacBook. The only game that I have installed so far is World of Warcraft (Mac version). It runs extremely slowly, but that is because Blizzard did a horrible job coding the game for Macs. I have done much reading in the World of Warcraft official forums on this topic and have seen repeatedly that in Windows the game runs fine, just not at top-notch settings. Once they boot into OS X, however, their framerate drops down to about 14 frames per second even on the lowest settings; pretty close to what I have found in playing World of Warcraft on my MacBook. Basically, if you are looking for a gaming laptop, don't get a MacBook (obviously). This notebook will run older and/or less demanding games just fine in Windows, however (eg. World of Warcraft, Half-Life [not 2], Battlefield 1942).

Hopefully this post cleared up some concerns for those of you looking to puchase a MacBook. In conclusion, I would just like to say that if you doubt anything that I have stated in this post, go to an Apple store and try the MacBook yourself. Just don't base your opinions of the MacBook on pictures and reviews, and take "news" of the MacBook's flaws with a grain of salt, as I have found a vast majority of them to be false and deliberately overexaggerated. The MacBook is not perfect in any way, but it is easily one of the best notebooks currently on the market for educational/business/standard home computing uses.
post #2 of 15
"Heat Issues:
I cannot say for the MacBook Pro as I have never touched one. However, as far as MacBooks go, there is no "heat problem." It runs at normal temperatures; if you take any old PC notebook and a MacBook and run them both for the same amount of time under the same amount of strain and touch the bottom of both of them, they will feel pretty much the same. The MacBook is no hotter than any other normal notebook I have ever encountered in my life. There are no heat issues. I have even seen some go as far as to say that they had to put the notebook on a desk because the heat got too unbearable. This is extremely exaggerated. The MacBook doesn't get that hot; I have been using mine on my lap for the last three hours straight and I feel fine. Don't believe the hype."

"Hopefully this post cleared up some concerns for those of you looking to puchase a MacBook. In conclusion, I would just like to say that if you doubt anything that I have stated in this post, go to an Apple store and try the MacBook yourself. Just don't base your opinions of the MacBook on pictures and reviews, and take "news" of the MacBook's flaws with a grain of salt, as I have found a vast majority of them to be false and deliberately overexaggerated. The MacBook is not perfect in any way, but it is easily one of the best notebooks currently on the market for educational/business/standard home computing uses."

Your experience and others such as myself may be different. Also, your acceptable limit and mine could be different. I tested my new Black MacBook heat against my old GW (over 2years old) and there is huge different. I did gave me a small blister. I even showed this incident to my employees. Also, the weight is fine, but I would love my traveling machine to be lighter. Well, I am using my 12.1 G4 for traveling and keep my MacBook for other usuage in the office.

I am not bashing this fine machine. Same goes to other people. They are just personal reviews. I really do like it and am keeping it. I really do encourage people to get it. I am just telling people my personal experience and want to make sure that they try it themselves before making decision. I guess you are doing the same thing. The fact that your experince overall are all topnotch does not mean others are wrong.

My 20cents
post #3 of 15
On notebookreviews.com they said it got clocked at 140ยบ(F) just surfing the net..
post #4 of 15
Thread Starter 
That's interesting. I have been playing World of Warcraft, surfing the web, and running Adium all at once for pretty close to an hour straight and have been running pretty consistantly at 38-39 C (about 100-103 F). I don't know, maybe I got a good notebook, but I still believe that this stuff about the MacBook's heat problems are strongly overexaggerated as I have not witnessed one bit of evidence to indicate such a flaw, and I have been using this thing a lot since I recieved it.

I do have to agree with you on the weight b2s. The MacBook is a smidge on the hefty side. I do wish its weight could be dropped a little, but considering everything that is included with the MacBook, I think the weight is more than worth it.
post #5 of 15
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Originally Posted by Axlin
That's interesting. I have been playing World of Warcraft, surfing the web, and running Adium all at once for pretty close to an hour straight and have been running pretty consistantly at 38-39 C (about 100-103 F). I don't know, maybe I got a good notebook, but I still believe that this stuff about the MacBook's heat problems are strongly overexaggerated as I have not witnessed one bit of evidence to indicate such a flaw, and I have been using this thing a lot since I recieved it.

I do have to agree with you on the weight b2s. The MacBook is a smidge on the hefty side. I do wish its weight could be dropped a little, but considering everything that is included with the MacBook, I think the weight is more than worth it.
With all due respect here, but just because someone hasn't experienced what others have reported does NOT mean that everyone else is exaggerating their claims.

In your own admission you said you may have gotten a good one and that may very well be the case.
post #6 of 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Axlin
That's interesting. I have been playing World of Warcraft, surfing the web, and running Adium all at once for pretty close to an hour straight and have been running pretty consistantly at 38-39 C (about 100-103 F). I don't know, maybe I got a good notebook, but I still believe that this stuff about the MacBook's heat problems are strongly overexaggerated as I have not witnessed one bit of evidence to indicate such a flaw, and I have been using this thing a lot since I recieved it.

I do have to agree with you on the weight b2s. The MacBook is a smidge on the hefty side. I do wish its weight could be dropped a little, but considering everything that is included with the MacBook, I think the weight is more than worth it.


I really am happy for you regarding heat issue. Where did you get your system from? I ordered mine straight from Apple Store online (can't wait as it backordered at the time from all resellers and my Apple local store). I got mine shipped directly out of China and it arrived within 3days. Pretty impressive delivery service from Apple.

I expected about small form factor and weight before ordering. So I am really not complaining, but hoping that Apple will come out with new lighter system in the future. You are right about one can't expect fully loaded system to be extremely portable.

Enjoy your new lappy.
post #7 of 15
Great post!!! Gotta fight with those Anti-Apple fans!!!! .... They are just spaming the whole forum!!!
post #8 of 15
Thread Starter 
I ordered my laptop straight from the Apple website as well b2s.
post #9 of 15
Ok, I feel that I must respond to the post.

I have a 17" mac book pro and there IS a heat issue with my notebook. I had a 15" mac book pro and returned it because of the high pitch whining sound and the heat issues and trust me, the issue is still there for the 17" mac book pro. Just watch a dvd with the power plugged in, and after 45 minutes, the top row (power button) area will get VERY hot. So hot that it's possible to burn my finger if I keep it there.

However, the issue with the whining has been fixed with the mac book pros. Many 17" mac book pros still have the heat issues when it is plugged into the ac adapter.
post #10 of 15
Thread Starter 
I stated in my post that I own a MacBook, so I cannot comment on the MacBook Pro's issues. We're talking about the regular MacBook, not the Pro.
post #11 of 15
Search the web, apple is fixing all of the problems, I say in a month, these "problems" will be just forgotten.
post #12 of 15
I have heard the same thing and actually I was told from sale rep when I ordered that they already start shipping those improved system.

I guess I may not have gotten it, but I love it a lot so far. You can't ask for more for what you pay for. It does not hurt to get a cooling pad even if there is no heat issue.
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by Bigmario22
Search the web, apple is fixing all of the problems, I say in a month, these "problems" will be just forgotten.

Lol, the problem is my wife is chomping at the bit to replace her 800Mhz G4 powerbook NOW. She really doesn't want to wait for the 2nd gen MacBooks with the heat issues ironed out. I'm making her wait.

All of the Pentium M's seem to run very hot for what is marketed as a cool, low power processor. My Acer easily tops 50C when idle, which means the fan comes on every 4-5 minutes. My dell manages to remain cooler, but at the expense of weight and size. When the fan comes on its still loud but at least it comes on less often.

This isn't too bad at first because the fan was quiet, but it is 15 months old now and the fan is getting louder with age, as all fans do. Its very annoying for the fan to come on. In a conference room its disruptive.
post #14 of 15
I am quite convincing that Apple can get the problem fixed. My old GW PC Centrino based still works like champ. I am very pleased still with heat and fan noise, which were never became issues.

As far as I know, Winstron, a company who usually manufactures IBM produced this laptop series. Judging from internal design (there are many posts about taken apart pictures), they did an awesome job for passive cooling layout.

Too bad that GW discontinues this series, never understand why. Many owners of this model could have not agreed more with me.

Well, lets hope that Apple figures the best way to make it better. I am not saying fixing it as there are quite mixed personal impressions for the heat issues.
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