Inbetween core duo and turion x2

if you want it to be as much "future proof" as possible, go with the Turion X2 loaded with WinXP64.
But the config right now is quite limited in other aspects. The CoreDuo series have more options.

Never thought I'd say this about intel, but right now core duo is much better than amd turion x2 in terms of solid 32-bit performance and battery life. (looks as though conroe is going be better than a64 also :< )

What comparison or test are you basing this off of? Last time I checked, there werent any reliable ones out there yet...... Also, i dont think a comparison between a 2.0ghz chip and a 1.6ghz one is quite fair. Does HP not have any laptops that use the TL-60 instead?

Depends how long you plan on having the laptop. If you want long term performance and future proofing, go Turion. If you want better short term performance and intend to buy another notebook in a few years, go Core Duo.

I had a conversation with a couple intel folks last weekend , They tell me intel was just waiting for amd to release its duo core chip so they could release the duocore2 . They said it runs rings around amd's latest at 800 mh buss speed instead of the 667 my 8000t runs at. Guess I should have waited a couple months , na... Im happy with it just the way it is.

There will always be something faster, the question is, do you want to continually hold off on buying something because it might be a few milliseconds faster? Most of the bottlenecks on laptops don't have anything to do with the processor (graphics card, slow hard drive, not enough ram, etc)

Interesting read, but that doesnt really help him out any as he is looking for a laptop.

yeah i know

Yep,... One area people need to pay more attention to are the bottlenecks like hard drive transfer/access rates... Of course it depends on what your "doing" with the machine. For example it doesn't do much good to have the fastest CPU, when you're a gamer and the video card /and hard drive transfer rates are more important. http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=157799

If you're just crunching numbers, and the program only loads from the disc when it's loaded and you have a bunch of ram so the pagefile isn't used and you care nothing about the video card then the cpu would be the deciding factor. Video card makes a huge differance on a system.

if yu are interested in cpu's then there is an article that tests the core duo against desktop cpu's including the AMD64 x2 chips. The core duo is placed in a special Aopen motherboard made for this little duo chip so that it can run on a desktop. The article is here: http://tinylink.com/?BzwlfgWtAS

I'd get something from the HP Business line

try the nc8430

All things being equal I'd opt for something from the business line for a little unkown secret...

Home product line gets updated 2-3 times a year.
Business line... about once per year.


What does this mean? Well it means the product cycle is longer, which means they have the item in production a long time.

This is a GOOD thing, since it means that the item gets several hardware revisions if needed... and the R&D, support teams have longer to work on an issue.

Think about it.. you have a product which is going to be replaced every 4 -6 months, vs one which is replaced every 12 months.... Which do you think is going to have less "issues"?


Another aspect is people who buy the business line stuff are usually using it in a "business"... Business people thinking more so than the home user that it's not cool to make stuff that's "buggy"...

A case manager at HP who has 20+ years in with HP told me the above pretty much in a conversation we were having when I was asking him if there was a big differance in "quality" in the home to business line...

He said basically the "home" line carries all the "newest" bells and whistles... may be a little buggy... short product cycle.

Business line less "bells and whistles", them usually opting to install a more stable version... that may have less features... Stablity the deceiding factor, over the the latest bells and whistles... and or course has a longer product cycle.

Overall, while I think the business line is a more stable product I think it will serve you well... Be advised you should WIPE the hd clean /do a fresh install of the OS to get rid of about 10,000 files of totally useless stuff. Before doing so backup the C:\\SwSetup folder, download the latest SP's.... For more info search my previous posts. Shame you couldn't have held out longer for the new Duo Core 2's

dv8000t uses SATA drives so be aware of that. I had some custom XP installs with SP2 slipstreamed in, apps self installing that would not install, hd to use the $10 OS install disc obatined thru HP to get the OS installed. NO problems once I did that.
If you're using it in production I would assume you have and external hd and have used "disc imaging" programs? I get one of the Apricorn EZ-BUS-DT*-kit series hard drive enclosures that I've linked to below ($24.99- Which is a VERY good price BTW) to image the hd to.)

Apricorn EZ-BUS-DT-kit USB 2.0 (for ide hd
Apricorn EZ-BUS-DTC-kit USB 2.0 +FIREWIRE 400 (ide hd)
Apricorn EZ-BUS-DTS-kit USB -(Sata drive)


Option 1 :Get machine, image hd, reformat... the image back if you need to go back to "stock"

Option 2, get machine, install a fresh copy of the OS, image.... then install apps, make another image.... Image back as needed.


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