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D820 Build Quality - Disappointed in Latch

post #1 of 31
Thread Starter 
I recently purchased a fully decked out D820. I received it yesterday and I'll disappointed in the the latching mechanism. This is a considerable wiggle between the lid and the base when the latch is engaged. The latch is all metal which is nice, but the plastic latch on my D810 worked better as there is no wiggle room at all on that machine.

I travel every week and move my laptop around quite a bit when I'm at work so something like this does bother me. What's concerning is that it might get worse over time.

I'm not sure if the solution is a different latch system or simplying a bigger rubber foot for the lid (to hold it further from the base).

For a $2k business laptop I expect better. Sure I could live with it and Dell would replace anything caused by the problem under warranty, but when the previous gen model doesn't have the issue, I have a hard time accepting it.

Other than that I am so far satisified.
post #2 of 31
My D820 has the same issue, but I'd rather have the screen with a little slack in it when the Laptop's closed as opposed to a screen that Viagra can't even keep up (pardon the pun). Or flops around like a dead fish. My i8200 didn't have the same slack when it's lid was closed, but it had ALOT of play in the hinges when the lid was open. It's not an issue when the D820's in a case since a securing strap will take that slack out. The latch on the D820 is miles better than the one on the D800 and D810. I've had to replace a couple latches on those because the spring wouldn't push the button back out to catch the lid.
post #3 of 31
Thread Starter 
Strangely enough the left side (looking at the laptop) seems to be ok, the right side has the problem.

As a field tech, do you see this as something Dell would be able fix (new lid, etc) or is it a design flaw that you either take it or leave it? We should have BOTH good hinges and latches, not have to settle for one or the other.

I agree about the hinges, my D810 is pretty good that way but still a little play. None at all on the new machine and it's not nearly as thick as my hulking D810.

I am considering giving Dell a chance to fix it and if they can't, it goes back. It may seem like a minor annoyance but it's certainly one they should have caught. If I am going to spend that sort of money, it should have great fit and finish. If I wanted lax build/design quality, I'd get an Inspiron... but my I8600 and I700 don't even have that problem and they were considerably cheaper.

Do you know if Dell's on-site policy only includes your home site or if I am travelling will they do the next business day on-site at a different location?
post #4 of 31
If the latch on the right portion faced the same direction as the left, it would probably sit flush like the left side. The catch is pointing to the center which leaves more give on the right side. Definately does not bother me as this will not affect anything.
post #5 of 31
My M65 has about 1 millimeter of play when its closed if you squeeze the two halfs together,I certainly don't think this is anything to get hot and bothered over,I really like the build quality of Dell's new latitudes and I don't know how you can compare to a I8600 which was one of the most creaky/flexi laptops I've owned [even if it was state of the art at the time]

Maybe you got one that was assembled badly or something,like you say,give them a chance to fix it.
post #6 of 31
My D820 (which is about a week old) had the same problem. After concluding that something must be amiss, I took it apart this morning (after eating breakfast). Luckily, I have a set of the small computer screwdrivers.

After getting the screen apart (which involves removing the little rubber feet, and then the screws underneath the feat, and the unsnapping the bezel) and removing the backing piece behind the screen, I was able to get a handle on the problem. (The dissassembly is documented on the Dell support site in the hardware manual for the D820).

On mine, atleast, the latch was not seated quite right in the track. This was the cause for both the excessive play in the latch itself (if you have the screen opened and you bounce the laptop, you hear a rattle from the latch mechanism), as well as the excessive play between the latch and the catches when the screen was closed.

I was able to reseat the latch in the track, which mostly amounts to pushing the latch "back" if you are looking at the laptop from the front with the screen up. In my case, the latch was "forward", in that it is about a mil or so closer to the user than it should be.

I'm not sure if this helps any, and I could try to describe things better. But the play issue appears to be a problem in the installation of the latch that is straightforward to correct.

Has anyone sent their machine back to Dell for repair? If so, what was the outcome.
post #7 of 31
Thread Starter 
I called Dell yesterday and strangely enough spoke to a heavily Indian accented person name 'Bill'. Once he got all my inforation and I described the problem he promptly transferred me to customer care who were, of course, closed. This is surprising because everything other time I've called Dell related to a Small Business Division purchase I get someone onshore. Now Bill may have been here but he certainly seemed like the usual non-helpful script reader which is unlike the other US based Dell support folks. Perhaps because it was a weekend?

Anyhow, I will ask them to come out and fix it. The fix seems easy enough as the poster above mentioned. I also have noticed that the laptop sits flat with the screen closed. When it's opened and put in a normal viewing position, the whole laptop is imbalanced as if it's sitting on the left rear and right front feet pads. I tried on a few differenet surfaces, same result. Two desks in my office, kitchen table, kitchen counter, a chess board, etc. To a different degree the left front foot does not lay flat so there is a THUD every time I take my hands off the keyboard and go to type again.

Hmm, I'm not sure how expecting quality equates to being 'hot and bothered' but perhaps you are willing to accept lower quality than I am. I find that surprising given that you spent even more on a Dell Precision laptop. Anyhow, I don't ever recall becoming hot over any kind of computer, bothered maybe, but not hot. If you're ok with a faulty latch, then that's great. And it is faulty, I doubt in Dell's design specs they specified 2 mm of play in between the lid and base.

I do like Dell but I'm not a 'Dell fan boy' so when I see an issue I'll call them on it. I own two Dell 20" LCDs, a I8600, a D810, and a I700M. I had a 9300 I sent back (screen was TERRIBLE) and it looks like a D820 may go back as well.

And yes, my Inspiron had ZERO gap between the lid and base. It did creak, but it's still running strong even with the imprint of my hands/wrist on the palm rest. Is it ok that Dell corrected the creak but added the gap that allows the LCD to jiggle around? My D810 has no creaks, play in the latch, and it also sits flat.. It's a brick to lug around but I guess I should have stayed with it and wait for Dell to work out the obvious bugs with their new line.
post #8 of 31
Call on Saturdays and sundays you do get Off-shore support. Generally it's this way because MOST business customers don't call in on Saturday and Sunday. I say MOST of them. Not all.

I do agree though, there is something significantly wrong with your Laptop. My D820 sits perfectly flat open or closed. So there's definitely something that should be replaced.
post #9 of 31
I'm not quite satisfied with the build quality of my D820 either. It has the same latch problem described above. When I close the lid, there is about 1 mm cap on the left-hand side between the lid and the base and about 2 mm on the right-hand side.

The other problem I have is with those volume buttons. One of them always sticks to the bottom when I push it. I quess it could loose after few months of use but still, it's a quality problem that bothers me and it has to be fixed.
post #10 of 31
I don't think the latch problem can be fixed unless they physically make a new one with short prongs. It is already in a fixed position where there is no room for adjustments.
post #11 of 31
Anyone has a D820 WITHOUT the latch problem? please post. Thanks. I know this is outside the topic, after battery and all, how many pounds does the D820 actually weigh?? Thanks,

I am debating I should return my D620 for a D820. Thanks,
post #12 of 31
I have slight play in the latch and it really isnt an issue...
post #13 of 31
euph CF, how do you like your D820? do you consider it heavy? because I just pruchased my D620, am thinking about upgrade to D820 for the same amount. Let me know what you think?
post #14 of 31
I don't have a real problem with the latch, and there appears to be no serious gap either. My problem is with light leakage on the screen. Also, I wouldn't consider it heavy but its not light either. Its definately the 5-6lbs Dells rates it with the 9 cell battery.
post #15 of 31
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Originally Posted by Flunar
My problem is with light leakage on the screen.

My D820 seems to have some light leakage too. I've also noticed some cpu whine when using it with batteries.

I have to say I'm quite disapointed with this machine so far. The main reason for me to buy this notebook was the quality. And now it seems that the quality is just the issue that bothers me most. I hope Dell can fix at least some of these problems.
post #16 of 31
I love my D820...I travel with it all the time... weight isnt much of an issue... granted it could be lighter but its similar to taking my D610 around with me.
post #17 of 31
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Originally Posted by LatiDude
My D820 seems to have some light leakage too. I've also noticed some cpu whine when using it with batteries.

I have to say I'm quite disapointed with this machine so far. The main reason for me to buy this notebook was the quality. And now it seems that the quality is just the issue that bothers me most. I hope Dell can fix at least some of these problems.

D820 is a great machine...all I notice is a bunch of whine coming out of your posts. If not one thing, probably another.
post #18 of 31
I haven't noticed any latch or build quality issues in my D820. It's built like a tank compared to my plasticy I8600.

My beef lies with the LCD quality and viewing angles, but I won't hijack this post with that question.
post #19 of 31
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Originally Posted by Snesley Wipes
D820 is a great machine...

That's what I thought too and that's why I bought it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snesley Wipes
all I notice is a bunch of whine coming out of your posts. If not one thing, probably another.

I'm not whining. I'm just telling my observations about my D820. Computers are not a that big deal for me. I do not love them. To me they are just tools to have my work done.

As a customer buying a top class notebook, I think I have every right to be critical. A top class notebook with latch problem, stucking buttons, light leakage and cpu whine is NOT a top class for me.
post #20 of 31
Just for clarification, does your computer have a constant whining sound? You mention "CPU whine" in your post above and frankly I trying to determine if anyone else has this problem too so I can determine how I should proceed. I have a seperate post on this issue but thus far no one has replied that they too are experiencing this problem.

BTW, my computer does not close flush either, but since I always carry it in a case it really doesn't bother me. I was surprised when I first noticed it after having received my D820's as my previous latitudes over the past 9 years were not like this. However, different things bother different people. I can live with the latch, but the whine drives me crazy...
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