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700M Speaker Replacement

post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
The speakers in my 700M stopped working unless the laptop was nearly closed. I assumed it was a broken wire so I opened it up (out of warranty). It is, indeed, broken wires. Apparently we opened and closed it so much that the wires just wore out from all the bending. I tried stripping the wires to fix it and got one speaker working. The other has a wire that is broken in two places and one of them is entirely too close to the speaker to strip and fix.

I called Dell and they don't sell the speakers as they are "part of the lcd display." That sucks because A) the speakers are only held in by two screws and B) a new LCD costs over $500.

I checked parts-people.com and they don't have any speakers in stock (they DO sell them separate from the lcd). Anyone know of any other source for the replacement speakers?
post #2 of 24
I guess you can always just use external speakers through the headphone jack but being a laptop you probably want sound while your at starbucks or something. goodluck finding the speakers and I hope the 700m/710m owners are aware of this.
post #3 of 24
you are correct, you would have to replace the LCD, BUT...
I wouldn't worry about stripping the wires. I would just buy some wire and solder the wire in place. it'll last longer.
post #4 of 24
Thread Starter 
What's really annoying is that the other wire that goes into the lcd is reinforced at the hinge but the speakers are not.
post #5 of 24
yup, just get some wire that is more flexible casing and solder the sucker in there.
post #6 of 24
i had the same problem. i just resoldered the wires and its all fixed!
post #7 of 24
solder's ur best bet...if not, well headphones work well too...I mean its a better option than blasting ur music in starbucks
post #8 of 24
I have the same problem. The break is really close to the screen though, so how do I get the speakers out of the screen so I can solder them? Any help would be appreciated.

Alan
post #9 of 24
I had the same problem. Fortunately, mine is still under warranty and after countless calls to Dell they eventually fixed it by replacing the LCD sceen.

The repairperson that came to my house said he had never seen this type of problem before -- seems like it happens a lot.
post #10 of 24
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Originally Posted by aharris680
I have the same problem. The break is really close to the screen though, so how do I get the speakers out of the screen so I can solder them? Any help would be appreciated. Alan
Download or look at the service manual: http://support.dell.com/support/edoc...n/SM/index.htm
post #11 of 24
I have also encountered the same problem. Searching around the net, I have found that this is a very common problem. I am amazed that Dell is not doing anything to help its costumers. At the very least, they could sell replacement speakers.

I am considering organizing a class action lawsuit. If you are interested in being a part of the suit, email me at 700m.lawsuit@gmail.com

Thanks
post #12 of 24
when my speaker went out (it wasn't a broken wire, it was just an annoying vibrating speaker), dell replaced the entire lcd the next day. no hassles getting it done. now i did opt for the 4 yr nbd complete care warranty. so dell does help its customers.

everyone always wants to sue for no apparent reason. if the thing is under warranty, then call dell and get it fixed. if it is out of warranty, well, you have live with it and find some way of getting it fixed. that's the nature of warranties. dell has no obligation of selling just the speakers if they do not sell them seperately, they can sell you the lcd unit that has the speakers. sucks, but that's life like anything else.
post #13 of 24
I bought the one year warranty and my speaker issue happenned just under two weeks after the warranty expired. It does suck but it is also somethat that should not happen to a computer that is less than 13 months old AND is being taken care of. As far as I am concerned, Dell is selling a defective product and is not trying to help its customers.

Yes, things break. I agree. However, normal use should not wear out a component of a computer after less than 13 months. Dell knows that they have a problem. They might not know how many customers they are losing by not addressing it.

When I found out, form Dell, that the only way to fix a simple problem was to buy a new LCD unit for well over $500 plus labor, shipping, I was sick. I'd have little problem replacing $50 speakers.

I'm not looking to pay my mortgage with money from Dell, I am simply looking to get my computer fixed without paying a fortune. Unfortunately, a poor teacher can't really go about paying close to $600 to get the sound to work on his laptop. Perhaps a class action lawsuit will make Dell address this issue by offering to replace the defective speakers (even if a computer is out of its warranty).

Fortunately, my batteries haven't blown up yet.
post #14 of 24
If you don't have access to a traditional soldering Iron. I'd suggest going to Radio Shack and picking up a Coldheat soldering tool for $30. They're quite excellent at splicing 24ga wires together. You won't burn yourself, you won't melt anything and you'll get a nice clean solder joint. I used a cold heat to add 6" to the front panel audio leads in my Lian Li case (they wouldn't reach the AC97 header on my motherboard). One of the few products you see on TV that works as advertised.
post #15 of 24
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Originally Posted by phishbeat

When I found out, form Dell, that the only way to fix a simple problem was to buy a new LCD unit for well over $500 plus labor, shipping, I was sick. I'd have little problem replacing $50 speakers.



You say you'd have little problem paying $50. You could find someone competent to do the 3 minute solder job required to fix the speakers for less than that. It's pathetic that you would even consider a lawsuit for something like this. Besides, companies purposefully choose warranty periods where they will have the least repair expenses. If yours broke 2 weeks after the warranty ended from normal wear and tear, then they guestimated correctly when that product would fail, and in their eyes set the warranty period correctly.
post #16 of 24
well if you have little problem paying $50 now, then paying extra for the extra warranty shouldn't have been a problem. it's hind sight.

but did you also buy it on credit card? if so, did you call your credit card company to see if they have extended warranty plan?

you understood that the warranty was only for a certain term and you chose to not extend it. you understood that if it broke out of the warranty period, then it was obviously not warrantied. if it broke within warranty, we wouldn't be having this conversation. since it broke outside of warranty, doesn't matter if it broke one day or two years afterwards, you are angry at dell. doesn't make sence to me. everything can fail at any given time. it's like any insurance or warranty: you never know when you need it until you need it.

somethings are just stupid designs, and the speakers are a stupid design. heck i've had to pay for entire bumper assemblies just to replace a stupid plastic piece. it sucks, but it's part of life.

if you don't like the fact that it broke outside of warranty, then buy some other computer brand next time and buy the extended warranty.
post #17 of 24
Please note that Dell has a "grace period" of 30 days AFTER your warranty expires to allow you to re-new it. In some of these cases, it may be worth it.

JM
post #18 of 24
Just to add my 2 cents - this appears to be a very, very common problem. I suspect that every single 700m sold will have this problem in the first year or two, or nearly every single one.

I have purchased two 700ms. One had this problem (broken wire to speakers) after about a year, the other had it after about 15 months, and now the first one is having that problem again, so twice within one year for that 700m. With the warranty, though, replacing it is very easy and quick. I think they should find a real solution for this, but I suppose as long as my 3 year warranty is not up I'll be happy with things as they are (two calls a year to dell tech support to replace the LCD ... )

The lesson I've learned here is to NEVER buy a dell without a nice warranty.
post #19 of 24
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Originally Posted by laffingbilly View Post
well if you have little problem paying $50 now, then paying extra for the extra warranty shouldn't have been a problem. it's hind sight. but did you also buy it on credit card? if so, did you call your credit card company to see if they have extended warranty plan? you understood that the warranty was only for a certain term and you chose to not extend it. you understood that if it broke out of the warranty period, then it was obviously not warrantied. if it broke within warranty, we wouldn't be having this conversation. since it broke outside of warranty, doesn't matter if it broke one day or two years afterwards, you are angry at dell. doesn't make sence to me. everything can fail at any given time. it's like any insurance or warranty: you never know when you need it until you need it. somethings are just stupid designs, and the speakers are a stupid design. heck i've had to pay for entire bumper assemblies just to replace a stupid plastic piece. it sucks, but it's part of life. if you don't like the fact that it broke outside of warranty, then buy some other computer brand next time and buy the extended warranty.
--------------------------------------------------- Since there is anecdotal evidence that this is a design flaw in the 700m, and other models like the 6000 and T where speakers are in the laptop screeen case... i.e. keep the speaker wires away from movable hinges, Dell should not continue doing this. I agree. A warranty is a warranty and after the period you have agreed to ... you are sunk, but.... the way i was treated by dell where they made up a silly story about needing to replace the motherboard for 498.00 when this is a very prevalent problem and all that is needed is a speaker wire, is bad business. they even offered me a discount if i "acted now" and did not hang up. felt like i was being addressed by an used car sales man in a cheap plaid sportjacket and yellow polyester pants -- albeit cheap Bangalorean polyester pants. i don't think a class action law suit is such a bad idea for several reasons.... please let me explain before you berate me. 1) if there are sufficient people willing to stand up that means dell really does have design issue on its hands and knows about it. frankly, a class action costs each user a lot more than a new laptop, so as my economic professor would explain, unless there is true bad faith on the part of dell, few people would sign up for this suit. 2) but if they had the same experience of feeling like they were conned (by dell's used car maintenance salespeople) for a known $50 issue, then they might act as 1000.00 for the laptop plus 500 for service might economically justify mass action. lawsuits arent a bad thing -- albeit there are overly-litigious people out there. I am not a lawyer and cant say there is any love lost for them one way or the other, but when a company doesnt stand by a known design flaw, then at least it is a way to correct future design and perhaps get them to repair it for 50.00 instead of gouging for 500.00. no one is asking for a new laptop or a refund i think, just fair repair bills. and, oh, btw. i did vote with my feet. i bought an ibm (with discount), a toshiba, and a acer in the month following my 6 calls with dell on 2 inspiron 700m's with the same issue. the acer cost 499, had a new core duo processor, and was the same price as dell's 498 (ok a dollar more) repair charge. oh, and i plan to open up and do some soldering myself... as i was a tech for IBM -- which by the way keeps its speaker wires stationary on the board plate .... dell is still a value computer, but buy a warranty or use your amex card to extend the warranty.... and if there are enough people who want to stand up and be counted, let me know! i will wait on the soldering for about 6 months and see what the masses decide to do.
post #20 of 24
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Originally Posted by laffingbilly View Post
well if you have little problem paying $50 now, then paying extra for the extra warranty shouldn't have been a problem. it's hind sight. but did you also buy it on credit card? if so, did you call your credit card company to see if they have extended warranty plan? you understood that the warranty was only for a certain term and you chose to not extend it. you understood that if it broke out of the warranty period, then it was obviously not warrantied. if it broke within warranty, we wouldn't be having this conversation. since it broke outside of warranty, doesn't matter if it broke one day or two years afterwards, you are angry at dell. doesn't make sence to me. everything can fail at any given time. it's like any insurance or warranty: you never know when you need it until you need it. somethings are just stupid designs, and the speakers are a stupid design. heck i've had to pay for entire bumper assemblies just to replace a stupid plastic piece. it sucks, but it's part of life. if you don't like the fact that it broke outside of warranty, then buy some other computer brand next time and buy the extended warranty.
I agree. I will add - a laptop is a mobile device designed for constant use. Some systems handle better than others under this type of "abuse". If there is an issue - then Dell should step up and rectify the issue for current systems to prevent it from being an issue. Also, you are aware as an end user that a laptop is a portable device subject to abnormal wear and tear since it is NOT a deskto. The device will constatly be opened and close and will be moved. You should also be aware as a consumer that purchasing an extended warranty in this instance would be a wise investment - especially complete care. Anyone that does not purchase said items (I wouldn't call them stupid), are taking a gamble. Don't blame dell for an out of Warranty product. However, follow everyones advice here and you should be able to resolve your issue in no time flat.
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