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post #661 of 741
Yeah, I had 9,745 with the GS, however with the GTX bios I have over 10,000.
post #662 of 741
To be honest, scores really didnt mean much to me my 7800GS clocked at 600\1200 would score around 9400's in 3DMark05, But playing games makes a huge difference! Thats when you notice the GTX's 512MB of memory and its 24pp\8vp kick in big time, My frame rate jumped way high! I had wriiten a comparison chart back in the 20's pages, I had frame rates from my 7800, 7900GS, 7800GTX & 7900GTX and i had used like 5 different games to compaire also in 1440x900 & 1920x1200
post #663 of 741
opps, i meant the 7900GS, also had it clocked at 625\1250 and ran some tests at those settings too, but temps did go up quite a bit!
post #664 of 741
but we are talking about a bios difference, at maximum card/GPU that can achieve higher clocks that th memory, they chould try it, for people like me that are stuck at 600 for the gpu, is a waste of time, cuz i have no temperature difference and and no performance gain from higher memory clocks. If your bottleneck is the memory its a great idea to upgrade, if it is the GPU it wont give you any advantages, but tou may want to try it to see if it affects temperatures at the same performance, because we can not compare temperature/clock ratio, since the performance per clock seems lower in the gtx.
post #665 of 741
I think i have a good clock/performance ratio in my card, this picture is at v6001200 (voltmoded at 1.24 directly from the iso cuz i am bored of maling my own) with dell drivers, i think that for this GS bios vs GTX bios we should set a standart, Dell default drivers, atitool o.25 beta 16 etc.
this picture proofs that atitool is indeed giving the real clock settings from the card and the temps too. This brings me to think that the gtx bios is just set the clocks like this 800->400 while the gs sets for 600->600
That explains why we can raise the memory clock higher with the GTX than with the GS bios. centi's post and pic are my evidence, lol. But it looks like andre25 did set his clocks to 800 acording to his posted pics. What i dond trust is the temperature it cant be 12c lower than mine at a 200mhz higher clock with the same bios and drivers.
REAVER reports a score of 10000 points in 3dmark 05, but he is using this drivers that are indeed boosting his scoores, and puts into cuestion if the GTX bios is the responsable for the great scrore.

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="3" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="tableLabel" valign="top">Driver Version</td><td valign="top">9.2.9.1</td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" background="/images/orb/pattern_hline.gif"></td></tr> <tr><td class="tableLabel" valign="top">Driver Status</td><td valign="top">Non WHQL - Not FM Approved</td></tr></tbody></table>

[img=http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/286/3dmark056001200delldrivnt1.th.jpg]


We need pics too, but complete ones with atitool and driver version to compare the real difference between GS and GTX, this is no more a competition about who can get higher scores. I hope people can offer their help posting scores.
post #666 of 741
Quote:
Originally Posted by yolda
I think i have a good clock/performance ratio in my card, this picture is at v6001200 (voltmoded at 1.24 directly from the iso cuz i am bored of maling my own) with dell drivers, i think that for this GS bios vs GTX bios we should set a standart, Dell default drivers, atitool o.25 beta 16 etc.
this picture proofs that atitool is indeed giving the real clock settings from the card and the temps too. This brings me to think that the gtx bios is just set the clocks like this 800->400 while the gs sets for 600->600
That explains why we can raise the memory clock higher with the GTX than with the GS bios. centi's post and pic are my evidence, lol. But it looks like andre25 did set his clocks to 800 acording to his posted pics. What i dond trust is the temperature it cant be 12c lower than mine at a 200mhz higher clock with the same bios and drivers.
REAVER reports a score of 10000 points in 3dmark 05, but he is using this drivers that are indeed boosting his scoores, and puts into cuestion if the GTX bios is the responsable for the great scrore.

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="3" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="tableLabel" valign="top">Driver Version</td><td valign="top">9.2.9.1</td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" background="/images/orb/pattern_hline.gif"></td></tr> <tr><td class="tableLabel" valign="top">Driver Status</td><td valign="top">Non WHQL - Not FM Approved</td></tr></tbody></table>

[img=http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/286/3dmark056001200delldrivnt1.th.jpg]


We need pics too, but complete ones with atitool and driver version to compare the real difference between GS and GTX, this is no more a competition about who can get higher scores. I hope people can offer their help posting scores.


ok but gs bios 600/600 atitool releved artifact no?
post #667 of 741
Quote:
Originally Posted by andre25
why in atitool ram is 400??
Hmm. I just installed ati tool ver. 0.25, beta 16, pre-3 & it reads my memory clock as 800.. while the beta 14 version reads the clock as 400, as pictured in the earlier post. Reading the ati tool release notes & forum comments, they seem to be calculating speeds from the driver on recent releases. Considering the apparent GTX clocks & temperatures, I have no idea which one (if either) is correct. If I can find the time, maybe I'll see if I can fit a scope probe on the card to get a real clock measurement.

post #668 of 741
Riva tuner appears to be the most comprehensive & accurate software tool that purports to measure timings. If anyone knows a tool that might be better or give more detailed memory clock/timing info, please point it out.

This is a screenshot of what Riva tuner (v2.0 RC16.1) thinks the timings are -

post #669 of 741
you are telling me you get no artifacts in atitool and get a maximum heat of 75c?
post #670 of 741
so far the only one getting over 9200 in 3dmark 05 is reaver, and he was allready over 9500 with the gs bios, i am still getting lower results with the gtx bios and same temps. So where is the benefit? i will try 800 for the memory, and see if i can beat my own GS bios scores.
post #671 of 741
Quote:
Originally Posted by yolda
so far the only one getting over 9200 in 3dmark 05 is reaver, and he was allready over 9500 with the gs bios, i am still getting lower results with the gtx bios and same temps. So where is the benefit? i will try 800 for the memory, and see if i can beat my own GS bios scores.

I am getting the same or better scores & temperatures with the GTX bios. So it seems worth experimenting with. But in the end, if you don't see the same results, then there is no benefit to you given your particular GPU die /driver /bios, etc combination.

Quote:
Originally Posted by yolda
you are telling me you get no artifacts in atitool and get a maximum heat of 75c?

Me? I'm not sure who you were asking? I have no atifacts in ati tool & a maximum temperature of 78C (600/800, 1.16v, GTX bios). Part of the reduced temperatures can be attributed to applying a better thermal compound (artic silver) & using the I8kfan fan control.
post #672 of 741
despite of being narcisistic or obssed with this thread, i just want to point out that i like to help :P.
Here are my new scores:
all with dell drivers at 1.24v first 2 at 6001800 and the last one at 6001200. I got a 250points boost in 3dmark 05 by raising the memory clock by 400mhz.... this is just insane, but its acctually more stable! I ran oblivion at 6001200 GS and i got artifacts and missing textures, with the gtx bios at 6001600 i got perfect stabilty, atitool is allways a pain in the ass, but with this bios mod i am getting allmost no artifacts at all.





post #673 of 741
Quote:
Originally Posted by yolda
despite of being narcisistic or obssed with this thread, i just want to point out that i like to help :P.
Here are my new scores:
all with dell drivers at 1.24v first 2 at 6001800 and the last one at 6001200. I got a 250points boost in 3dmark 05 by raising the memory clock by 400mhz.... this is just insane, but its acctually more stable! I ran oblivion at 6001200 GS and i got artifacts and missing textures, with the gtx bios at 6001600 i got perfect stabilty, atitool is allways a pain in the ass, but with this bios mod i am getting allmost no artifacts at all.





What are your temps at?
post #674 of 741
I agree with yolda, I've noticed an increase in stability with the GTX bios. After a few hours of BF2142 I would start to see artifacts, but with the GTX I've yet to see anything.
post #675 of 741
i concur with everyone elses findings this GTX mod bios is nuts yet it works its briliant.
post #676 of 741
is not perfect and misleading too, i think stability is just becuase the clocks are being set to a lower value, than the real ones.
post #677 of 741
Quote:
Originally Posted by REAVER
but with the GTX I've yet to see anything.
quote.... 3 hour fear combat 1920x1200 antialias x2 antistropic 8x all effect attive,no artifct e max 83° this vga is ram in 7900 gs is samsung K4J55323QG-BC14 samsung max 1400 mhz...
post #678 of 741
Now for the guys that have not had a Dell for very long but are up with the play in BIOS flashing.
How on earth are you guys getting the go7900 GTX BIOS's to upload ?
I can use 5150_jokers ROM's with ease.

I can grab the GTX BIOS change the PCI-ID to GS, change the Core/mem speeds then save the ROM, using NiBiToR.
BUT when I try to NVFLASH it the Card doesn't match (error I get)

I tried the -5 and -6 option in nvflash but this doesn't ignore the Card mismatch error.

Now I know the GS card = 7106
The GTX card = 7107
I can find this in the BIOS by doing a manual search (06 71 or 07 71)
Do I manually change this and then save or am I missing something.
As the above would also mean that the crc would change, I also know where this is kept and would be easy to work out what it is.

But I assume I am missing something.
Probably also good to know for anyone that wants to take the plunge into changing BIOS's.

Any help appreciated.
post #679 of 741
Quote:
Originally Posted by pieter
Now for the guys that have not had a Dell for very long but are up with the play in BIOS flashing.
How on earth are you guys getting the go7900 GTX BIOS's to upload ?
I can use 5150_jokers ROM's with ease.

I can grab the GTX BIOS change the PCI-ID to GS, change the Core/mem speeds then save the ROM, using NiBiToR.
BUT when I try to NVFLASH it the Card doesn't match (error I get)

I tried the -5 and -6 option in nvflash but this doesn't ignore the Card mismatch error.

Now I know the GS card = 7106
The GTX card = 7107
I can find this in the BIOS by doing a manual search (06 71 or 07 71)
Do I manually change this and then save or am I missing something.
As the above would also mean that the crc would change, I also know where this is kept and would be easy to work out what it is.

But I assume I am missing something.
Probably also good to know for anyone that wants to take the plunge into changing BIOS's.

Any help appreciated.
post #680 of 741
Quote:
Originally Posted by pieter
Now for the guys that have not had a Dell for very long but are up with the play in BIOS flashing. How on earth are you guys getting the go7900 GTX BIOS's to upload ? I can use 5150_jokers ROM's with ease. I can grab the GTX BIOS change the PCI-ID to GS, change the Core/mem speeds then save the ROM, using NiBiToR. BUT when I try to NVFLASH it the Card doesn't match (error I get) I tried the -5 and -6 option in nvflash but this doesn't ignore the Card mismatch error. Now I know the GS card = 7106 The GTX card = 7107 I can find this in the BIOS by doing a manual search (06 71 or 07 71) Do I manually change this and then save or am I missing something. As the above would also mean that the crc would change, I also know where this is kept and would be easy to work out what it is. But I assume I am missing something. Probably also good to know for anyone that wants to take the plunge into changing BIOS's. Any help appreciated.
command is: nvflash -r (disable write protect eprom) nvflash -4 -5 -6 nomebios.rom y y y y
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