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post #181 of 464
My Samsung screen is fine. A bit of leakage across the bottom, but nothing you notice except on an all black screen.
post #182 of 464
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Originally Posted by drnihili
My Samsung screen is fine. A bit of leakage across the bottom, but nothing you notice except on an all black screen.

How uniform is the backlighting?
post #183 of 464
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Had a call from someone in India (horrendous line echo) telling me that my M1710 would be delivered Monday evening. I pointed out that the carrier had already called me and arranged an afternoon delivery. She said she would check it and ring me back within 15 minutes, but didn't.
post #184 of 464
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Originally Posted by Jim Barry
How uniform is the backlighting?
Sufficently uniform that I don't notice a difference. I'll take a closer look the next time I get a good chance to look at it.
post #185 of 464
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The Indian lady eventually called back with the correct delivery time, and asked to arrange a collection date. I said I would call her back when I have received the replacement.
post #186 of 464
Well Jim I really do hope you get an LG. The one I have is so beautiful that I think to myself, "damn this is too good to be true, I bet it's gonna break on me or a cluster of dead pixels will show up!" lol. If you've ever seen a Fujitsu laptop at a store, that's how good this LG looks to me. About the same brightness and color clarity - it made my 7900 come alive in games. This is definitely NOT the LG I remember from the XPS 2 days. That one had trouble accurately reproducing some blues and grays but this one does a much better job even though it comes up a bit short with grays.
post #187 of 464
Well, I have now had a chance to try 3 of the (possibly) 4 screens for the M1710.

Mine came from the factory with the Sharp screen, which had such amazing light falloff that when I was positioned dead center on the scree, the left and right were noticably darker than the center. Moving my head back and forth would move the "curtain of darkness", so it wasn't a lighting issue, just a bad viewing angle.

Next, I got the Samsung SEC3155 as a replacement. I've lived with this screen for about three weeks to a month now, and it is a marked improvement over the Sharp. Still, as I move my head up/down/left/right, there is still that "curtain of darkness" that moves around, but at least when I am dead center, the screen is fairly uniformly bright. It is still annoying, though, having that "curtain of darkness" affect. So, I had Dell ship me another screen, this time the LG.

The LG screen is much better with respect to the "curtain of darkness". Probably at least half as noticeable as the Samsung, and wayyyy better than the Sharp. The LG has even brightness across the display, no bad pixels, and the sparkle effect, when noticeable, is about the same as the Samsung. I do notice, though, when I turn on or off the computer, the LG screen goes COMPLETELY WHITE for a few seconds. Neither the Sharp or the Samsung did that. I do notice, too, that the LG is a little heavy on the RED channel. I can adjust that in the nVidia color correction, so that is no big deal. (BTW, anyone with the LG and who has color-adjusted their display care to share their settings?)

So, for now, it looks like i'll probably stick with the LG panel.

Should it be this hard to get a good display with your notebook?
post #188 of 464
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Thanks for the input, lancorp. That Sharp screen doesn't sound good at all. For all its other shortcomings, the SEC5557 does at least have a decent horizontal viewing angle, with no noticeable falloff towards the edges. I'll take the superior brightness and black level of the SEC3155 over the SEC5557's viewing angle, though the 3155 seems to have big problems with backlight uniformity. From what everyone says, the LG sounds like the best of the bunch, but in the UK it seems that it is not possible to request a particular type of replacement screen. Did they send somebody out to change your screen or did they just mail it to you?
post #189 of 464
Jim,

They sent me the screen, and I put it in. (not fun...)

I have to say, that XPS support team does seem to go beyond the norm. They spent significant time on the phone with me, with the sole purpose of getting me the screen I wanted. Of course, they didn't have part numbers right at hand for the LG, but they persevered and ultimately got me the right screen. Not once did they make light of my desire to have a perfect screen.

I did notice, though, as the tech was looking up part numbers, that he was naturally referencing other Dell models...it seems there really ISN't an XPS-specific panel, and who knows where Dell gets that "30% brighter than other displays" claim for XPS.
post #190 of 464
Bad news...seems that anomoly of the my LG screen going COMPLETELY WHITE is not an anomoly. When XP goes puts the screen to sleep, it goes WHITE instead of off... bummer.

Looks like another call to DELL is in order....
post #191 of 464
lancorp - it could be your inverter.

Do your keyboard shortcuts to alter the brightness of the screen work?

When I installed the 9300 screen in my M1710, I had exactly the same issue as you - whenever the system booted up or shut down, instead of going black, it would go bright white, and then continue. My keyboard shortcts would not work either, the screen was fixed on white.

However once I swapped inverters (using my M1710 inverter with the 9300 screen), all was/is fine. No more bright white boot ups, or shutdowns.
post #192 of 464
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Originally Posted by wadham
lancorp - it could be your inverter.

Do your keyboard shortcuts to alter the brightness of the screen work?

When I installed the 9300 screen in my M1710, I had exactly the same issue as you - whenever the system booted up or shut down, instead of going black, it would go bright white, and then continue. My keyboard shortcts would not work either, the screen was fixed on white.

However once I swapped inverters (using my M1710 inverter with the 9300 screen), all was/is fine. No more bright white boot ups, or shutdowns.

Yep, same symptoms...keyboard shortcuts don't affect the brightness. It's stuck on full. So it's probably the inverter.

I still have the other panels from my M1710 (Sharp and Samsung)...will those inverters work on the LG, or do I need to get another inverter/panel from Dell?
post #193 of 464
The easiest answer is to give it a go. It worked for me - the connectors are the same, but be aware that large voltages are generated in/around the inverter, so ensure it is fully plugged in before testing!

My M1710 inverter does not fit correctly with my 9300 screen, but I was able to hold it in place with a single screw before reassembling the bezel, and now it is hidden, and not going anywhere.

To be honest, using the wrong inverter won't cause any lasting damage, only the symptoms you have previously indicated.


I must say, I'm loving my WXGA+ 9300 screen, however. It's great for gaming at native res, and all the issues about light leakage and glossy screens etc won't ever make me put my 1920x1200 trulife back in..
post #194 of 464
Hi guys just a quick note to let you know i had my sharp screen replaced with as samsung screen that was really bad so i have waited and today the rep told me they cannot get any of the lg screens in the uk for replacment but they are going to replace it with a <TABLE cellSpacing=0 border=2><TBODY><TR vAlign=bottom><TH noWrap align=middle bgColor=#b0b0b0 height=12></TH><TD>JK624</TD></B><TD>17 WUXGA LCD Service Kit, 9400/M1710 (Shiny/True Life)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
does anyone know what it is? he has told me that it will not be as bright as the samsung
post #195 of 464
I got the same replacement and it's Samsung SEC5557 so, as someone told before, previous generation of the screen.
post #196 of 464
is it the same as m170 screens? did that have no probs in the end though?
post #197 of 464
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Originally Posted by xeronex
is it the same as m170 screens? did that have no probs in the end though?

I don't know, but it has light leakage, black is like grey, not that bright like my previous SEC3155.
post #198 of 464
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My new system is here and it's got... wait for it... an LG-Philips screen! And no bad pixels! The feeling of relief is pretty intense right now. OK there is still a bit of leakage top and bottom, and the backlighting isn't terribly even, but the black level is vastly better and the colours are much more vibrant. It's hard to be sure without being able to compare side by side, but I would say it's about as good as or slightly better than the SEC3155 I started with. After all I've been through, I will definitely be sticking with this screen.

They threw in a spare battery for me, which is nice, though I don't really need it. Also the DVD burner is a Sony DW-Q58A instead of the Philips I had before. Anyone know whether one is supposed to be better than the other?
post #199 of 464
Brawo!
Now I know that I can call them tomorrow and ask for replacement

Cheers.
post #200 of 464
Congrats Jim, it's great to hear that you've finally got your LCD screen sorted out. It seems like you're doing fine too. In my opinion, even though the NEC is the best DVD burner currently around but at least the Sony that you get is easily better than the Philips drive that you previously had! My view is that you're having an almost perfect system!!!
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