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Gateway M285-E Tablet Review

post #1 of 23
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Specs:
Core Duo 1.66ghz
1 GB DDR2 667mhz Ram
80 GB 7200 RPM Hd
Convertible 14" Screen(/tablet) max res: 1280x1024
x1400 Graphics (64mb bios won't let me change it... sucks; ATI's control center says it has 256 of Hypermemory though, who knows)

The Box:
Sigh, I can't stand the cow colors but whatever.

The Machine:
Its actually pretty solid, and by solid I mean heavy for its size. But honestly, its not that big so the weight gives it a pretty solid and usable feel. If it was light and flimsy i'de be nervous. Its not heavy enough to be bothersome in a backpack or put a huge strain on your arm if your using it as a tablet.

The Screen:
Bright and shiny! Its actually a fairly impressive screen, with better viewing angles than my old asus (and its glossy). Decent res for a 14" too, 1280

Modular Bay:
Its freaking annoying to open. The button has to be pushed with considerable force to remove the dvd/battery. Not too bad though once you've done it a couple times. COOL NOTE: Bay is HOT SWAP-ABLE in both directions. Can go batt->dvd and dvd->batt while windows is on. I can flip from battery to dvd and within 3 seconds throw in a dvd and it'll read it and play just fine.

Battery life:
Looks to be about 2 hours using only the modular 6 cell bay. Will post actual times with 6 cell/12 cell/both (18 cells) soon.
Actual rundown is between 2:30 and 2:45 with minimal usage on the 6 cell.
About (didnt test) 5-6 hours on the 12 cell.
And combined, a solid NINE HOURS with both batteries. Again, this is with minimal tasks like aim and perhaps some light web browsing (Wireless on cuts out i think about 20-30 minutes).

Fans:
Normally they're off, it turns on now and then for maybe 3 minutes then shuts off. However, i HIGHLYrecommend you take advantage of ATI's profile and set the powerplay to "always on" (Meaning powerplay is on, powerplay lowers the clocks) when you want the fans off. When powerplay kicks in the clocks on the card go down about 300mhz (core and memory each). Reducing power conception by a few watts. Now while thats not HUGE (its decent) on battery, it is enough to be the difference between the fan on 75% of the time and 5% of the time. Update The difference between powerplay on and off is about 7 watts. Now, when the whole system only uses 15-16 watts when not doing much, and 20 ish when doing something average in intensity, 7 watts is a heck of alot. All the more reason to manage those profiles well.

Even at full burst though, the fan's arn't loud per say. Its definetly noticable, but if you have somebody talking to you, or music playing or virtually anything going on, its not a nuissance. But if im sitting here studying it is annoying, hence i use the power profiles -- and its not a problem.

Heat:
Unfortunatly, even when idling, the entire keyboard area gets considerably warmer than i'de like. Meh, nothing i can do about it. The fan though is well placed, ish, in the back right. I use my mouse about 4-5 inchs from the right side and the fan never really hits my hand, at all. If i do put my hand near the fan the silly thing really doesn't push a heck of alot of air, so its not a problem regardless.

Keyboard:
The keyboard is actually VERY nice, much better than i expected. The keys are firm(moreso than other laptops i've used... however i note this is as a good thing, to me at least) to the press and not really plasticy, they have a good feel to 'em.

Pen:
The pen is kinda less than great. I calibrate it rather frequently as it never really is just quiet right. Perhaps I need to clean the screen better (I heard the MFR ships it with something on it that has to be cleaned off, i dunno, can't tell). Update: After a few days of use the pen feels better, still not 100% perfect, but good. Can't tell if i got used to it, or it actually got better. Hmph

Gaming:
I've had time to D/L and run 3dM05 on _STOCK_ drivers
And... *drumroll* scores for the FIRST GAMING CONVERTIBLE TABLET:
3dm05: 1869 3d marks. This is on a 1.66ghz Core Duo, default (free-version) settings (Stock drivers)

Played tomb raider (the new one). @ 640x480 i could have AA and HDR on. At 800x600 i could pick one or the other. This is on pretty minimum settings. But if you turn both off, i can turn up some other details. So, for what i want, thats just fine with me.

Another update: I played XMEN and Raven Shield on max settings today, with at least 40 fps. X1400: Superb :-).


Tablet Mode: (after using it for a few days)
I use it mostly in laptop mode, but i have done some tablet stuff. If your planning on carrying it around all day on your arm in tablet mode i highly advise you look elsewhere. Now while its not heavy, its certainly not light enough to carry around for hours.

Turning the screen is fine, pressing the button to rotate the screen isnt as much a hassle as i thought it'd be.

Writing on it is fine, i mentioned in my initial review that it needs to be calibrated frequently -- less so now than at first, i dunno, perhaps the layer of new-ness is wearing off, but the pen seems better now than it did at first.

I dont mind at all though carrying it for a bit in tablet mode. Im about 5'11 175 lbs, medium sized person. Not really much of a burden for short bits.

I plan to use it at college, so i can use ink annotations in MSWord to do math and stuff, its 100% perfect. Type all i want, hit the pen button, scribble some square roots and calculus, then continue typing.

You can write on the screen in any position, which is also nice, but im sure thats not unique.

Gateway?
Going into this purchase I was abit dismayed I couldn't get something like this from asus. I'm very, VERY partial to them. Ultimate in high quality parts, never had a problem with 'em. So i kinda just bit the bullet and went gateway. They're rep isnt the best for quality but honestly, besides a few minor quirks/design problems, im not unhappy. Its no asus, but it is far, far from junk, heck, i might even like it :-).

Overall
I think i read this on cnet or something "Its a great laptop, x1400 and 1280x1024 14" screen. But a mediocre tablet". But heck, for most people (or at least me) thats perfect. Im extremly satisfied with the laptop thus far.

10 Months Laterl
So, its been a lot of months of using this Machine -- and i can say a lot more in retrospect. I'm glad I got this machine for what it does -- however were I to make the choice again I would have gotten the Asus R1F. The build quality of this machine has gone from "It feels solid" to "That didn't last long". The plastic kind of pops off in places, The screen REALLY feels like its going to just fall off the hinge anyday now. It wobbles a good 15-20 Degrees. So if you want it to face you within say 5 degrees it'll take a handful of fiddling. The LED's sometimes don't go on (and yes, i know there is an on off button -- its alwys set to on). Battery Life is still fantastic, and it still plays games. No serious part failures yet though -- which is good. However, I do sourly miss the little things - S-Video out, Built in Webcam, IR Port, Bluetooth etc. Also -- the pens are crap. I've already returned three of them, thankfully though Gateway replaces them for free.



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post #2 of 23
Thanks for the review, is there any chance you would have any pictures? Also so some battery life figures would be good to. thanks for all the info, there isnt much out there on this laptop.

Kmarshal
post #3 of 23
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What angles/parts of the laptop do you want photos of? I'll borrow my sisters camera tomorrow evening.

As for battery, I get aprox. 2:30 on JUST the 6-cell modular battery. I get about 9:30 with both. I'll have more numbers soon.
post #4 of 23
Hey Zgold, I'm kinda interested in this tablet HOWEVER the graphics card is a bit too underpowered for me. Would you please please PLEASE be able to (now I understand if you don't fell up to it/don't want to) take some picture of the GPU without it's fan covering or anything? also be able to note how much space there is around the card?

That would be so very very good of you, I have asked many people but none are up to it.

Mike Check
post #5 of 23
sorry for the long delay. The angles really dont matter to me, just some general pictures. The company photos never give the same impression as real hands on pictures. Open, closed, tablet mode, maybe a thickness comparison with a battery or something. Anything you can do. Also, how usable is the tablet mode, with the thickness and weight of the machine. Will you usually just leave it as a laptop or will it get used alot as a tablet?

thanks
kmarshal
post #6 of 23
zgold, nice first impressions. i look forward to more details. i'm almost ready to pull the trigger on this tablet.
post #7 of 23
yeah I would be SO up for buying it but I just can't get a picture of the GPU. From anywhere at all ever! grrr makes me angry. zGold pweeeeeeeeeeeease take one. pwease pwease pwease?

Mike Check
post #8 of 23
mike, go to www.tabletpcbuzz.com and check out their forums. all they do is tablets and there are many, many owners of the gateway you're looking at.
post #9 of 23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kmarshal
sorry for the long delay. The angles really dont matter to me, just some general pictures. The company photos never give the same impression as real hands on pictures. Open, closed, tablet mode, maybe a thickness comparison with a battery or something. Anything you can do. Also, how usable is the tablet mode, with the thickness and weight of the machine. Will you usually just leave it as a laptop or will it get used alot as a tablet?

thanks
kmarshal

Just went to grab the camera... lo and behold battery's dead. I'll definetly get some shots though asap.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacinok
zgold, nice first impressions. i look forward to more details. i'm almost ready to pull the trigger on this tablet.

You're wish has been granted =P. Anything I left out?


To Mike G:

I'll try tomorrow. I'll open the cover and such, but most likely I wont have the nerves to take off any heatsinks. I did buy the 4 year warantee (hey, it was like 40 bucks) and wouldn't want to void it for something silly.
post #10 of 23
thanks man

Mike Check
post #11 of 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZGold550
Just went to grab the camera... lo and behold battery's dead. I'll definetly get some shots though asap.
<cut this out and put it up top>



You're wish has been granted =P. Anything I left out?


To Mike G:

I'll try tomorrow. I'll open the cover and such, but most likely I wont have the nerves to take off any heatsinks. I did buy the 4 year warantee (hey, it was like 40 bucks) and wouldn't want to void it for something silly.

thanks ZG. good info. good to hear you are enjoying it.
post #12 of 23
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Pics added :-)
post #13 of 23
man that's awesome, glad you like it. The pics of the GPU are good but I need them without the heatsink on. I understand that you don't wanna go poking around in your new baby so don't sweat it. Thanks anyway you've done more than many others

Rep for you

Mike Check
post #14 of 23
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My problem was... I think the CPU is the big fan on the left side, and the GPU might not have even been shown in those pics. Not sure :-/.
post #15 of 23
maybe.... what's the fan (I think) right underneath the RAM slots? If it's a smaller fan I'd wager THAT'S the CPU. I mean I've never seen a CPU at the back corner of a notebook and that fan seems rather large for just the CPU. However you could really only know until you take it off which I don't think you're ready to do. Either way good stuff

Mike Check

P.S. If you do happen to take it off can you measure it's dimensions (length, width etc.) Thanks
post #16 of 23
Thread Starter 
On monday I'll call gateway and ask if it voids the warantee to add some artic silver V :-).


Interesting observation: I booted up Prime95 to see which fan turned on, and indeed it was the larger fan (the one covered by the heatsink in the pictures) which turned on.
post #17 of 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael_gaetano
maybe.... what's the fan (I think) right underneath the RAM slots? If it's a smaller fan I'd wager THAT'S the CPU. I mean I've never seen a CPU at the back corner of a notebook and that fan seems rather large for just the CPU.
Good deal of the newer gateway note booksbeen having the cpu in the top midle, but i'm not sure about the m285-E. M460 has it at the very edge, under the monitior. the edge of 1 of the heat sink touches it, which leads to the main-fan. That mini-fan is probly the same as m460 were it cools the cd/dvd drive. Edit: fixed quote.
post #18 of 23
eh we'll see I suppose. That's it zGold's feeling up to it.

Mike Check
post #19 of 23
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Updates the main page to include a "10 months later" section.
post #20 of 23
hi zgold550,

thank you for posting this review. i am thinking about the cx210, which i think is similiar to the one that you own.

the main reason that i am considering this is because i would like to write full pages of text, as in writing a book and have it converted to typed pages. i can't tell by your review how much writing you actually do. is this laptop and software up to this amount of writing?

i don't plan to carry it around and write standing up. i will be sitting. does it get too hot to sit on my lap for an hour or two?


i noticed that you said that you had to replace the pen a few times. i am happy to hear that gateway replaced it for free. do you know if are there any other pens that you can use with it other then the one that gateway has?

i think i read a review that says that the 12 cell battery sticks out the back. is this what i've seen people holding on to when they are writing?

thank you.
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