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I'd like to reiterate how important it is you watch your lappy!

post #1 of 34
2/16/04 at 3:08am
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Cause last week my sager 4780 got stolen!!!
I left it in a place I thought was secure and was in an enviroment I thought would be safe to place my sager since I had done so regularly since I got it in november. But my lappy was swiped and I have no idea by who and no one saw it happen. :P

So I'd just like to remind everyone to keep their lappy with them at all times and don't let it out of your sight, even if you think you're safe!
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post #2 of 34
2/16/04 at 3:20am
That completely sux FuFu I'm sorry to hear that. I would be pretty damn too. I know that not everyone can afford a laptop, but I think that everyone is in that boat ... but we save and we save and we go into debt a bit. So for someone to swipe it, that's just inexcusable.

I remember I did the same thing with a psych book in college (left it in a place I'd left it before) and it disappeared one day too. It was only $50-$60, nothing compared to the price of a laptop. But a college student needs every penny they can get.

So I feel for you and I'll take your words to heart.

Good luck to you - I hope the banana gods can help you and someone can give you info on it.
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post #3 of 34
2/16/04 at 4:30am
I assumed this was common sence. I guess not. It's kinda like leaving your car keys in your door, and putting a sign on top that lets everyone know.

That sucks man, sorry for your loss.
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post #4 of 34
2/16/04 at 9:24am
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Well this is southern china :P and the establishment is owned by my relatives so I thought it was safe.

But now whoever has it has the only 4780 in the whole province I would bet!!!
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post #5 of 34
2/16/04 at 11:04am
What happens if they catch the jerk who stole your laptop? Does he get executed for crimes against the State? Also, when you are in China, does the laptop actually belong to you? Im not trying to mock you, as China is obviously moving toward a free market economy (ever so slightly). But having grown up in the free world i am curious about the communist enigma that is so often talked about.
-T-
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post #6 of 34
2/16/04 at 12:04pm
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Originally Posted by FuFu
Well this is southern china :P and the establishment is owned by my relatives so I thought it was safe.

But now whoever has it has the only 4780 in the whole province I would bet!!!
Insurance? That sucks mate hope you get it back or at least get the money
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post #7 of 34
2/16/04 at 12:04pm
well, you should start sucking up to your relatives, and get into their houses.. look for clues and ask around, but keep it all secret... ive had to do this before when one of my relatives stole my freggin motorcycle (1970 Honda CL350)... the thief ALWAYS tells someone, or someone will find out by accident and tell someone else.. word will spread, but you have to start the fire..

-Evil Juggalo
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post #8 of 34
2/16/04 at 12:38pm
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Originally Posted by Telemekhos
What happens if they catch the jerk who stole your laptop? Does he get executed for crimes against the State? Also, when you are in China, does the laptop actually belong to you? Im not trying to mock you, as China is obviously moving toward a free market economy (ever so slightly). But having grown up in the free world i am curious about the communist enigma that is so often talked about.
-T-
China stopped being a communist state quite a few years ago following the reign of Deng. Now it's economy is very similar to most of Europe's: a socialist free-economy. The government still manages jobs, health care, insurance, banking, etc. but there is private ownership and industries belong to the private sector.
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post #9 of 34
2/16/04 at 5:40pm
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Originally Posted by deltawalkerl
China stopped being a communist state quite a few years ago following the reign of Deng. Now it's economy is very similar to most of Europe's: a socialist free-economy. The government still manages jobs, health care, insurance, banking, etc. but there is private ownership and industries belong to the private sector.
Most funny thing is that until 1998 Chinies People's Liberation Army was one of the biggest investor and property owner in China. It owned casino's night clubs factories etc. After 1998 crisis they were ordered to close the shop.
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post #10 of 34
2/16/04 at 10:12pm
I've been here about 6 months and here's what I've seen and heard of thievery:

I work on a street that's both patrolled by moonlighting infantry and civilians (government organized rent-a-cop types) as well as lightning fast thieves.

Penalty for thievery is a slap on the wrist here in guangzhou. The guy's out of jail on the same day if you happen to get him early afternoon. The most brutality you'll see carried out on thieves here is by enraged citizens rather than officials. Calling the police is the LAST thing people do when they've got a thief in their hands. Woe be to the thief that gets caught too far from a police station.

This is good, I guess..but it really means you should worry more about prevention and basically write it off if you've lost it already. There are police and government sponsored security patrols (mostly off duty infantry). The patrols are posted on every street corner in the busier areas. However, the price of this incredibly dense distribution of security is that they cannot run longer shifts. But since most of the petty thievery occurs during the day, when the most people are out on the streets and shopping, longer shifts aren't really needed.

Guangzhou is pretty cool. Food is freakin cheap and tasty (about 65 cents for a full plate of pork, rice, veggies, and soup!) As long as you keep your eyes open and your paranoia unreasonably high, then you too can own and keep a Sager here
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post #11 of 34
2/17/04 at 2:54am
::would be seriously woried about eating a platefull of port that cost 65 cent dude:: fried veggies that I watch them prep ok... but no way pork... I so miss fried bannanna's and veggies.... but most of all my chicken shawarma's (sp?) when I was in saudi and UAE

as for paranoia... mines already maxed out now so Im ready for my sager...

::sleeps with a loaded shotgun right here in the USA, and won't let anyone neer her truck, property, or stuff for anyreason.... ::
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post #12 of 34
2/17/04 at 2:57am
You didn't have it chained to you?

I normally use both handcuffs and a waist chain.
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post #13 of 34
2/17/04 at 4:19am
Get a cable lock, and beware pork that goes woof.
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post #14 of 34
2/17/04 at 4:26am
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Originally Posted by MARQUISDARQUIS
I normally use both handcuffs and a waist chain.
What about the mouth straps and ankle bolts Marquis? I thought they only only let you out when they had you totally secure (Marquis de Hanibal).
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post #15 of 34
2/17/04 at 4:29am
Its at times like these that fitting a small undetectable GPS transponder makes a lot of sense. Sorry to hear about your loss FuFu. I believe Evil Juggalo has the right approach. Someone is bound to talk.
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post #16 of 34
2/17/04 at 7:27am
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kliide described it best about the police here in china. If someone isn't getting killed or raped they're not very useful. :P Thieves get a slap on the wrist simply because they are so rampant (Theres this many people so you have an abundance of low class citizens) on the streets including children and adults of all ages. The cops wouldn't have even come to take my report had I not said I had an american passport. They came here and when they saw I was chinese when they were expecting a white guy I immediately saw them take off the whole *wow this is important we gotta help him!* look. lol

Anyway my lappy is bound to be many the ONLY or few laptops in this whole province with a 3.2ghz processor and a mobile 9600 radeon. So yes whoever sees it is gonna notice. But I'm not crossing my fingers since there are so many people here and it's simply not concieveable to go around alerting everyone in the city about my stolen laptop. Cause even if someone sees it or steals it back they also might keep it for themselves or just sell it in the backstreet markets widely popular here.

Anyway the price of the lappy far exceeds the yearly salary of an average joe here soooooo... means if they sell it then they have a pretty penny to spend. 2100 buck laptop = 16800 RMB in china. And thats also like having 16800 american dollars in the USA if you have 16800 RMB in china.

On another note I'd like to add that china isn't the communist police state everyone thinks it is. There are no red guards that march down the street or force you to do whatever. I've been here 8 months already and I can say what I've seen and done here is exactly as free as I am in the US however it's more exciting. Already saw 2 people get run over by cars and two thieves who got b***ch slapped by the cops when they were caught. Well the cops came but the citizens basically beat them down hard. LOL

If you have the time china is worth coming to. Larger cities like Beijing and Guangzhou or Shenzhen are really developed and can compare with new york or san francisco but don't expect every city to be as well established as them
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post #17 of 34
2/17/04 at 8:55am
I don't get out much, the hourly on the handlers is too dear. But when I do, the only time my 8886 is out of my personal contact is at airport security and I make sure the handicap helper is watching with me during that. Have to say my SAGERs always get attention, they rarely see a notebook that big and heavy so a lot of times I have to turn it on or at least open it up. I keep the owner's manual handy with it as that is reassuring to the security people.

I've thought about getting that program that will surreptiously email you if its stolen though I don't know how effective that is. Mostly my main backup is regular backups on the data and my renter's insurance. Though I would still have some downtime, it wouldn't be a total disaster. This is also a good argument for having an External Hard Drive, you can do backups easily and also keep the most critical data separate from the machine so if someone does lift it, at least you have your data.

I do etch an identifying mark inside the machine in a couple of out of the way places to provide positive id should it get returned. That's probably more wishful thinking than really useful, but its provides some POM (piece of mind).
I also use passwords. They are not going to stop anybody serious but at least the usual thief type is going to be stymied.
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post #18 of 34
2/17/04 at 9:16am
I like the idea of a hidden prog to email you back, clever.
Only problem is it needs the GPS unit as well. Maybe Sager/Clevo can build one in for the next round of models. I suppose you could almost get by with knowing the IP being used, plus the phone number, adsl, cable identifiers. That would be a first step. Sounds like an excellent project.... hmmm...
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post #19 of 34
2/17/04 at 6:29pm
well from what I have heard that kinda progy is only good for the truly dirt lickin stupid theaf... most I am told whipe the hard drive and reinstall before selling...
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post #20 of 34
2/17/04 at 6:38pm
Take hostages. Someone will talk eventually.

Bribery is also a good idea, a bounty is next.
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