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Review: Z62F DIY review

post #1 of 22
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Reasons For Buying

I wanted a smaller but balanced notebook with current components and I wanted to save as much money as possible. I'm not a gamer, but I do travel a lot, so battery life and portability were far more important than graphics. I strongly considered the Dell D620, but couldn't quite get the price where I wanted it. Then I read horror stories about its screen (dim, grainy). I also considered the Dell e1405 (640m through small business) largely b/c of the sick coupons dell offers. But in the end I felt like the e1405 would leave me with poorer build quality, a look that I don't care fore (all the inspirons look ugly to me), and not much in the way of savings by the time I added in the components I wanted. Finally, I really liked the idea of building the laptop myself and the Z62F seemed to be positioned as a DIY choice (easy for a novice to build).

Configuration

14.1" WXGA 1280 x 800 TFT Display
intel T2400 Core DUO 1.83GHz Processor
128 MB Shared Video Ram - Intel 945GM (GMA950 integrated graphics)
2GB Corsair Value Select DDR2 667 MHz (1024MB x 2)
80GB 7200rpm Hitachi ATA6 Hard Drive
8X NEC ND-6750A DVD+RW
56 kbps Modem (V.90)
Realtek Gigabit LAN
IntelPRO 3945ABG Wireless Ethernet/Lan (802.11 a+b+g)
Carrying Case included
6-cell primary battery - default (9-cell batteries are available separately)

Build Experience

I bought the Z62F barebones from buy.com for $488 with a $15 off coupon. It comes with the case and battery, the plastic cover needed for the optical drive, the drive tray for the HD (metal), and the CDs for drivers and manual. The plastic placeholder for the empty PCMCIA slot was notably missing (not a big deal for me).

I bought the CPU off ebay for $180, the Hard Drive from newegg.com for $135, the memory from zipzoomfly.com for $172, the wireless card from newegg.com for $38, and the DVD+RW from newegg.com for $70. I also used some artic silver 5, which I had already. I had a copy of winxp pro already, so that saved me some money.

Total cost: $1083 shipped.

I'm not sure I would recommend this same process to others - it's a lot of work to place many orders (including ebay) and wait for it all to come in. I think the deal at 1toppc.com for this laptop is pretty darn good, so I would steer people that way if they prefer an easier experience and would like some support in the process.

This thing is EASY to put together if you are patient and comfortable holding small parts (small screws etc). You need a very small phillips head screw driver. Probably the hardest part was getting the old bezel off the NEC DVD+RW drive and putting on the one that Asus shipped. I also reversed the Antenna and auxiliary connectors for the wireless card the first time. Fixed it when I realized the wireless wasn't working. Altogether, it took me about 45 minutes to build. This would have been quicker if 1) I didn't apply Arctic Silver 5 and 2) I had hooked up the wireless card correctly the first time.

Look/Design

Fairly plain jane. There are loads of pictures in other threads and around the net. I will say that it looks nicer in person than in the pictures. I kind of like the minimalist/no stickers/no visible branding look.

Build Quality

Fantastic for a plastic notebook. While it would be nice to have magnesium alloy shell, this thing feels more solid than the latitude D610 (alloy shell) we have at work. There is very little flex in the screen and zero play when I shut the lid (the latch has 2 hooks). I wouldn't exactly play catch with it, but you can definitely hold it by the corner or side and toss it agressively into its case. I can also prop it on one hand use type with the other. For comparison, I used a Dell D6000 for a few months last year - which I would assume is similar to the e1405. If the D6000 were a 3 on a scale of 1-5 for build quality, the z62F would be a 4.5. NOTE: another reviewer noted needing to file down some of the plastic on the bottom of the Z62F to make it sit stable. Mine didn't need this - the plastic is perfectly aligned with the rubber feet so it sits flat on my desk with no rocking or unevenness.

Size and Weight

All put together, mine is 5 lbs. It feels "smallish", but not quite "thin and light" - it can only get so small with a 14-inch screen. If you are familiar with a Dell 600 series (latitude or inspiron), this one is pretty close, maybe a wee bit smaller, and a little bit lighter.

Screen

Beautiful - glossy style. The 1280x800 resolution is perfect for 14.1-inch. I wouldn't want a larger screen with this resolution (like the s96j) - that would make the icons and text too big and clunky for my taste. So far the glare hasn't bothered me at all. It has the same vibrant colors as other glossy screens I've used and brightness is excellent - especially on full (the way I like it). There are no dead or stuck pixels to speak of. There is a very slight discoloration in the bottom right corner near the windows clock. I've seen this on almost every notebook I've ever used. There is almost no light leakage to speak of. In a completely dark room with the screen set to all black, you can notice a small amount. Never during normal use though. It's a grade-A screen for a budget notebook.

Keyboard/touchpad

I love this touchpad - it's the synaptics kind. I find the synaptics software excellent and very easy to configure. The mouse buttons are soft and do not make much noise when pressed (of course, you can use the synaptics software to eliminate the need for them and just use tapping the touchpad instead). The keyboard feels almost exactly like the dell keyboards I've used. Nothing to write home about, but nothing to complain about either. It has a medium amount of noise and springiness. This size is very comfortable. It has no extra play and feels solid throughout. I do wish the Control and Function keys were swapped though (I can probably find a way to do this). In addition to the power button, it has 5 extra buttons across the top - browser, email, enable/disable the touchpad, and set power scheme (requires "power4 Gear+" utility on CD. There are no media keys, but volume is adjusted with the function keys. You can also put the laptop to sleep, turn the wireless on and off, adjust the brightness of the screen and select an external monitor with the function keys.

Performance

Core Duo. It feels very responsive, even compared to a Pentium-M computer. I think the 7200rpm and 2GB of ram help, though 1GB of ram should be enough for most business and home needs. Of course, you can configure the Z62F how you like, so performance is yours for the taking (outside of video).

Heat and Noise

Almost silent. At first, the Hitachi HD made audible clicking noises, but I was able to set the acoustic mode with Notebook Hardware Control (previously "Centrino Hardware Control"). Now it's silent and the speed reduction with acoustic management is barely noticeable. On full load, the CPU fan runs. It about as unobtrusive as possible - much quieter than my powerbook G4 (which isn't that bad to begin with). Heat is expelled on the left side of the notebook, near the back. This should be helpful to right-handed mousers. Even after being on for hours at full load, the laptop never gets uncomfortable for my wrists or my lap. Just "warm". And you can minimize this by controlling the power scheme. A+ for heat and noise.

Battery Life

The Z62F comes with the default 6-cell battery. You can get a 9-cell for about $100 which should improve battery life about about 50%. I've been running my Z62F at full brightness and getting about 3:20 per charge. I'm sure it'll get over 4 hours if I set the brightness to medium. That means maybe 6 hours with the 9-cell.

Sound

The speakers are Weak and tinny. But this is how most smaller laptops are and I can't say I expected more. It sounds fantastic with headphones though.

Network

Get the lintel 3945ABG Card. It rocks - I can get full signal out on my front sidewalk and my apt. is on the second floor and the wireless router is in the back of the house. For comparison, My powerbook G4 gets no signal at all and my wife's 600m (Intel 2200BG wireless) gets some signal. Measuring transfer speeds, I get a full 300K/second over wireless during a download. This is on Road Runner. Wired, I get 600K/second, so that's 50% on wireless. Very nice. The Gigabit wired network is excellent too. Great way to transfer data to my desktop (but I needed to get a gigabit switch to take advantage of it - $40 from newegg.com).

USB Camera

It works. I haven't played much with it yet. Wasn't a concern when I bought the Z62F. I'll edit this post if I find myself using it and have more to add.

Overall

I'm extremely happy with this laptop. I loved the experience of building it myself and I feel like I've got a high quality product for an amazingly good overall price. For non-gamers, I think this is the best value laptop currently on the market.
post #2 of 22
thank you for the review, very nice, well written .
Your total price was amazing!

Also change two little mistakes, your heading HEAD and Noise its spose to be Heat <-

And the last sentence, I extremely happy.... change to "I'm <-" that's all

Enjoy your laptop!

Thanks,

MysticGolem
post #3 of 22
Thread Starter 
Thanks - fixed! Found a couple more typos too.

Today I brought the Z62F to work. I learned that unfortunately, the intel 945 graphics chip can only support 1024x768 on an external monitor. I was hoping for 1280x1024...
post #4 of 22
It should be able to support much higher resolutions than that.

Intel says "2048x1536 at 75 Hz maximum resolution" maybe your refresh rate is set too high? Or maybe if you can disable the screen on your laptop it will be able to utilize more for the external monitor?
post #5 of 22
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Yeah, it realy doesn't make sense to have it limited to 1024x768. I'll have to try setting the external monitor to primary (I was spanning before).
post #6 of 22
I would guess that that would do it
post #7 of 22
thanks, been loooking for reviews on z62f
post #8 of 22
Thread Starter 
Just tried the external monitor as primary - works at 1280x1024 (and I would assume higher) as SHNAKE suggested. It's limited to 1024x768 only when running the laptop's own LCD + and external monitor (spanning or mirroring the image).
post #9 of 22
Thread Starter 
Just in case anyone wonders - you can, of course, buy this laptop all assembled!
post #10 of 22
noahl: Nice review; especially enjoyed your synopsis of the "build experience," and the overall presentation. One of the better crafted reviews seen on this space. Toss in a few common benchies and it's as readable as any of the "published" reviews.

From curiousity, did you consider waiting for the introduction of the EM64T enabled Merom CPU and what was your reasoning for foregoing it?

Good work
post #11 of 22
Thread Starter 
Thanks Whitney! It's my first review, so I wasn't exactly sure what to write, but I thought a few people might be interested in building this NB from parts and seeing if they could save a few.

I'm very interested in Merom. I've read conflicting comments on whether or not current yonah laptops will be able to support it. If/when I can get a merom for a low price, I will very likely upgrade. So far, I have seen a few for sale on ebay - engineering samples. I'm pretty sure that isn't legal, so I'm not comfortable getting one that way.

Yes - I should add some benchmarks. Good suggestion. I can run PCmark and super pi. Any other suggestions?
post #12 of 22
do they support internal bluetooth? i think this will be my new laptop soon. oh also have you ever tried undervolting it to save battery? i think that would be something i would do.
post #13 of 22
From what I heard it does not technically support it but there is a space in it which would appear to be for that. Maybe if asus releases a module for it later it would be.
post #14 of 22
Thread Starter 
My Z62F doesn't have bluetooth built in, but you can get a small usb bluetooth adapter for ~$20.

I'll try undervolting and report back.
post #15 of 22
Thread Starter 
Unfortunately, I'm unable to undervolt using Notebook Hardware Control. CPU Voltage settings are various muliplier seem to have no effect. Testing them always tests 6x and .950v, regardless of my setting.

Is there another program I can use to undervolt?
post #16 of 22
you can try RM Clock as well. get it at cpu.rightmark.org
post #17 of 22
Thread Starter 
Tanks much - I downloaded and installed it but I still can't figure out how to set specific voltages per multiplier. Maybe it's a cpu or chipset compatibility issue? I used to be able to set voltage per muliplier easily with Centrino Hardware Control.
post #18 of 22
go into "Management and Profiles", then select the profile you want to set voltages for, let's say "Performance on Demand", check "Use P-State Transitions", right click in the box and choose "add". Then select the multiplier nd the voltage you want to use for it. Repeat as desired for different multipliers and/or different profiles.
post #19 of 22
Thread Starter 
Fantastic - works like a charm! I had to select "performance on demand" for both AC and Battery under "Management and Profiles", then add states as you explained for the "performance on demand" profile.

Now I'm maxing at 1.013v for an 11x multi (1.83ghz yonah). Normal max voltage is 1.263.

I imagine this will help battery life some, but unlike with the pentium M, no voltage lower than the default (.950) are offered, so we can't save power when idling.

In any case - this confirms that undervolting works fine for the Z62F.
post #20 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by noahl
Fantastic - works like a charm! I had to select "performance on demand" for both AC and Battery under "Management and Profiles", then add states as you explained for the "performance on demand" profile.

Now I'm maxing at 1.013v for an 11x multi (1.83ghz yonah). Normal max voltage is 1.263.

I imagine this will help battery life some, but unlike with the pentium M, no voltage lower than the default (.950) are offered, so we can't save power when idling.

In any case - this confirms that undervolting works fine for the Z62F.
nice to hear that!
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