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Got the Frag Tape G-Omaha and applied it.

post #1 of 15
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I put the frag tape on everything that had the old stuff on it, and put AS5 on the other two components. So far so good. Question, what drivers ( video ) are you guys using for your 8790?

The frag tape is from highspeedpc.com, thanks for the tip G-Omaha. I hope it cures the video issues with this new motherboard and video card. I keep getting "ATI2DVAG.dll" errors. Been trying a few of the old and new drivers, and wiping the system of them each time using driver cleaner.
Any suggestions community?
post #2 of 15
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OK I tried something as simple as Quake3 on mmy 8790, sparkling clean, AS5 on the cpu, new frag tape on everything except the gpu memory area with that thick tape on it ( didn't touch this area), AS5 on two of the indents under the motherboard .

I get artifacting now with this new motherboard which is why I ordered the frag tape.
Well I still get artifacting and sometimes my system just locks up with a blue screen of death with an "ATI2DVAG" error. The ati2dvag.dll is an ATI file. Not sure what to do about this? I have uninstalled and reinstalled the 809 drivers from Pro-Stars website for the 8790.
Anyone have any ideas to resolve this?

Sad thing was that before this new mobo, my system never artifacted. But the mobo burned up one day. and now with the new mobo, it artifacts and locks up.
post #3 of 15
Install the newest ATI 6.5 drivers from their site here: https://support.ati.com/ics/support/...questionID=640 and get a copy if ATITools from here: http://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/ and set the clock speed to 432 CPU and 236.25 Memory. Any memory speed above that appears to cause artifacting. You might have to play around with a bit - also the tools is not all that "User Friendly".

Good Luck.
post #4 of 15
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Originally Posted by G-Omaha
Install the newest ATI 6.5 drivers from their site here: https://support.ati.com/ics/support/...questionID=640 and get a copy if ATITools from here: http://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/ and set the clock speed to 432 CPU and 236.25 Memory. Any memory speed above that appears to cause artifacting. You might have to play around with a bit - also the tools is not all that "User Friendly". Good Luck.
G-Omaha, aren't those drivers for desktop radeon cards? I tried their Mobility ones here: https://support.ati.com/ics/support/...e&folderID=293 but found that the 1680x1050 resolution is not supported (not even available after installing their drivers on my laptop, defaulting to some lower "square" resolution for non widescreen displays) If you are in fact using the drivers from the link you posted, please tell me how to get my resolution with them (1680x1050-32bit) Thanks. By the way, I added frag tape to the length of the gpu memory, leaving the original thicker tape there in its place. Hoping to see if the new HighSpeedPC frag tape would help the memory stay cooler. So far still artifacts, should I remove it ( the stuff I added to it?) Also: MY KBC version is F6 now after the motherboard replacement.
post #5 of 15
If you hit the sidebar buttons you would have found them: Here is the direct link to the mobility driver:
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/...p?folderID=536
post #6 of 15
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My default speed is alot lower than what you posted?!
Mine is 405/220. Should I "raise" it then which would probably cause more artifacting in games?

Ok, I installed the ATI 6.5's, left my settings at 405/220 and opened Quake3 to test for artifacting. Quake3 entry screen is all artifacted all over the place. Worse than the default drivers, plus I can't get a desktop resolution higher than 1400x1050 with the ATI 6.5 Mobility Drivers.
Any ideas or suggestions?
post #7 of 15
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Just removed all of the ati drivers, ati tool, ati tray tools, restarted and ran driver cleaner again (my normal process for updating drivers).
What should I try now?


Edit: Just tried the Omega drivers ( 6.5 Cats) and they made my entire windows display garbled and unreadable. At least the ATI DEFAULT 6.5 CATS allowed me to view my desktop, only garbling the screen when I went into Quake3 to test.
I am at a loss, as this laptop is very very clean, not overheating but the drivers do not seem to take, except for the Standard M11_804 drivers. Those work ok, except artifact heavily and give me ATI2DVAG.DLL errors.
post #8 of 15
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Only thing that worked is going into system properties, and changing the Processor to AGP system device driver to Standard PCI to PCI bridge.
post #9 of 15
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Found this over on another thread here:
By Dase:
http://www.notebookforums.com/showth...light=catalyst


I finally got the Catalyst 6.4 drivers to work on my 3790.

I spent the last 3 days trying to get them to work. I reimaged my laptop with Acronis about a dozen times and rebooted 100+ times trying all sorts of permutations. I was editing .INF files, merging new Catalyst drivers into the old Sager install, and so on. Fortunately, even when the laptop LCD is garbled, the external monitor output works fine, so I could continue to troubleshoot.

It turns out the problem with the newer Catalyst drivers is quite simple.

1. The 3790 LCD requires a 75 Hz refresh rate. Anything else results in a garbled screen. This is unusual in the LCD world, where most LCDs work with a 60 Hz refresh rate. Aggravating the problem is that the Sager LCD doesn't support PnP, so it doesn't tell Windows about the refresh rate requirement.

2. The Catalyst drivers don't have a .INF entry for 1680x1050, so Windows won't recognize that as a supported resolution once you install the Catalyst drivers. You can't select it in the Windows Display Properties. You can force it from the Catalyst Control Center, but that only works until you reboot. When you reboot, Windows resets the resolution.

What happens when you install the newer Catalyst drivers and reboot? Windows doesn't support the 1680x1050 resolution and it falls back to a lower resolution with a 60 Hz refresh rate, and the LCD is all scrambled. Even if your LCD isn't 1680x1050, I think the first post-install boot defaults to a 60 HZ refresh rate for safety reasons, which doesn't help us at all.

While I didn't follow the exact steps below (my config is working now and I didn't want to reimage yet again to check it), here's a fix that should work:

1. Install .NET Framework 1.1. The Catalyst Control Center requires this and it won't work if you only have .NET Framework 2.0 installed.

2. Get the latest ATI mobility drivers here: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/mobile/atimcatw.exe.

3. Install the latest drivers, but DON'T REBOOT.

4. Download RefreshForce here: http://www.pagehosting.co.uk/rf/. It's a great little utility that updates the Windows registry so your display drivers always use whatever refresh rate you specify. You can also use it to add additional resolutions.

5. Run ReForce.EXE. Now you have to find the correct monitor registry entry to modify. It's a bit tricky because every display device gets a monitor entry, but you need to find the one for the built-in LCD. Look for one that's labeled [ACTIVE]. In my case there were three [ACTIVE] entries, but the entry ID I needed was labeled MS_0000. Click the Auto Populate button. This should fill in all the supported resolutions and refresh rates. Change all refresh rates to 75. If you need to add 1680x1050, do it and set it to 75 too. Apply the changes.

6. Reboot. If you chose the right monitor to modify, everything should look fine.

I hope this works for you. Let us know if it does.

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Might help someone else. Gonna try it out myself.
post #10 of 15
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Here is how I got mine working. Just installed the Mobility ATI 6.6 Cat's.


Start with no drivers installed.
Run the Mobility Catalyst installer, but only to extract the files to the C:/ATI folder.
Then cancel installation of the drivers.
Then go to My Computer, properties,device manager/right click display adapter/properties
then update driver, select the option "you will select/choose which to install".
Point it to the C:/ATI folder to an inf file in there. let it install.
Reboot.
Now to get the Cat Control Center installed, just go to the C:/ATI folder and click on the setup.exe and install the driver all over again. For some reason doing it this way works for me, while installing from scratch does not work. Maybe something initially with the installer trying to install the ATI drivers when the display has no driver other than the WinXP ones.

Works great now.
post #11 of 15
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Everything was working fine, then I turned her on the other day ( with a house fan pointing at it, sitting on the CoolerMaster NotePal 17" laptop cooler, and max fans ON) and the cpu temp was at 41 deg C, then I decided to watch a windows media file I had watched before, and within 1 minute of the video running....POOF! There goes the motherboard once again! Fried.
At least it is still under the 3 month warranty, but having just got it back from having this new replacement motherboard put in, this thing is not making me happy anymore.
post #12 of 15
God, i hate resurrecting this thread. Hey Gman, would you still recommend that 432/236 speed rating? I lost my settings in a reformat and I can't remember what I had mine set to.
post #13 of 15
You might have to play with it a litle bit to set the speed to the optimum value for you machine. That should work as a start.
post #14 of 15
you still using omega drivers g?

Thanks for the info.
post #15 of 15
I'm still using the moblie drivers available at the ATI site.
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