7900GTX w/o OC won't run Oblivion @ high settings is what I heard. No matter what you get, you will need to tweak a bit if you want to enjoy more visuals effects.
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6/28/06 at 4:35pm
Originally Posted by T120ted
I had a M170 replaced w/ a M1710 that had the 7900gs. It took a few weeks of wrong parts being sent and horrible talks with tech and customer care. I sent them a chart similar to the one above. My main arguments for the gtx being better fall upon the fact that the GS has 20 pixel pipelines where the Gtx has 24. Thus meaning that the GS could not be equal to the GTX. The fill rate is 2.1 billion pixels/sec better on the GTX compared to the GS. There are almost 150 more Vertices/second on the GTX and the memmory bandwidth are 3.2gb/sec better on the GTX aswell. Like it or not an inferior card cannot outperform the better if it doesnt have the capabilities. I also say screw the Benchmarks. They mean nothing when it comes down to playing games. If you have to put those kinds of overclocks on a card just to get the same results as the other then that should explain it all. You want those benchmarks and game performance without overclocking. That is why you had a GTX in the first place.
The hardest thing I have found for them ( Indian Customer Care) to understand about the two cards is the 512mb 256mb difference. This is what will cause the most problem. As they think 80gb 4200rpm harddrive is better than 60gb 7200rpm harddrive. This is thier thinking. You didn't have a 512mb so you got the available 256mb GPU. Just point out you had a GTX and You want it replaced with a GTX.
The biggest thing for me though was the pixel pipelines. I don't care how you overclock your 7900gs. It still has 20 pipelines. 20 pipelines will not match 24 pipelines even if it was overclocked to the moon. It is physically impossible.
Originally Posted by tommms
Well, Dell too promised to send me a replacement system for my M170, but what do I see in my order details? A freaking M170, and it is already in transit.
What the hell, I am sooo pissed.
Originally Posted by jboysen15
obviously i want them to send me a GTX...like duh!!!!
so far only one person has given any technical info......i understand that oc'ing the 7900gs will give better results than the 7800gtx
this is not my concern
i am searching for a techno geek that has valid reasons why pipeline pixels ps and other such things makes the 7800gtx a "better" card
i am not interested in results with OCing...i understand i can get better 3dmark scores with the oced 7900gs
i am just trying to make a legit argument against dell to have them send me a 7900gtx instead of gs.....i don't give a rat's ass if you oc'ers are getting high results with you super suped up 7900 gs i know what is possible with oc ing, but according to dell "ocing is a nono"
i will be truly happy with a gs, although why not shoot for the gtx
an informed argument is hard to beat...and that is what i am looking for
Originally Posted by jboysen15
HIS NAME WAS PUNJAB..I CAN SEND YOU A TRANSCRIPT OF THE CHAT
ALSO HE WAS TRYING TO CONVINCE ME THAT THE BEST CONFIGURATION OF THE M1710 WAS A 5400RPM hdd AND THE 7900GS
SO TAKE YOUR THUMB AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS --
ACTUALLY TAKE BOTH THUMBS
IF YOU KNEW HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE HAD TO EXPLAIN RE-EXPLAIN AND THEN RE-RE-RE-RE-RE-RE EXPLAIN MY SITUATION- YOU WOULDN'T BE GIVING ATHUMBS DOWN.
I AM SO SICK OF BEING LIED TO BY TECH SUPPORT PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT A GPU IS OR HOW TO MONITOR ITS TEMPERATURE
I MAY BE NEW TO POSTING HERE-SO MODS YOU CAN BAN ME IF YOUWANT TO BUT I AM SICK OF EVERY A-HOLE THAT THINKS I AM TRYING TO SCREW DELL TO GET A NEW LAPTOP...I HAVE BEEN THROUGH HELL AND BACK AT LEAST FIFTEEN TIMES WITH UMPTEEN PROBLEMS
REPLACING HARDWARE AND OTHER BS....
I ALSO HAVE 3 CHILDREN 2 OF WHICH ARE 1 YO TWINS THAT I NEED TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH SO SPENDING A FULL(I SHIT YOU NOT) SATURDAY ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS ARGUING WITH DELL IS NOT MY IDEA OF FAMILY BONDING
SO TO THE THUMBS DOWN GUY.......KEEP DREAMINING ABOUT DARKLOKI'S WOMAN AND MAYBE ONE DAY YOU MIGHT THINK BEFORE YOU BLAB YOUR THUMBS DOWN BEFORE KNOWING A BIT OF THE STORY