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post #1 of 19
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i have a acer aspire 3000 with:
*processor 2800+
*799 MHZ
*192MB RAM
*9.59GB free space on C:
*17.2GB free space on D:

i was wondering at the moment i dont have the money to update it but was wondering until i can update it, is there any way i can make it faster with loading? ive taken off programs that i thought would slow it down and ive even cleared all my cache and cookies.
post #2 of 19
what OS do you have? with 192MB of ram, a lot of things are going to be a bit slow. i know i used to have an old laptop that ran windows 2k with 128mb of ram, and it was painfully slow...
post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by yee245
what OS do you have? with 192MB of ram, a lot of things are going to be a bit slow. i know i used to have an old laptop that ran windows 2k with 128mb of ram, and it was painfully slow...

i am running windows XP home edition
post #4 of 19
ok, do not even try to upgrade it, its not worth saving unless you wann get a new mobo, ram, proccesor,so just get a new laptop, cuz below a 1ghz proccesor? there are cell phones faster than your laptop, so just get a new one, unless you wanna spend 1000-2000 bucks in upgrades
post #5 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by bamsladyinblack
i have a acer aspire 3000 with:
*processor 2800+
*799 MHZ
*192MB RAM
*9.59GB free space on C:
*17.2GB free space on D:

i was wondering at the moment i dont have the money to update it but was wondering until i can update it, is there any way i can make it faster with loading? ive taken off programs that i thought would slow it down and ive even cleared all my cache and cookies.
http://www.finitesite.com/lee_rider/tweakxp.htm for overall xp performance
http://www.speedguide.net/ for overall internet performance
try to add more ram when u can

cheers ...
post #6 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by bamsladyinblack
i have a acer aspire 3000 with:
*processor 2800+
*799 MHZ
*192MB RAM
*9.59GB free space on C:
*17.2GB free space on D:

i was wondering at the moment i dont have the money to update it but was wondering until i can update it, is there any way i can make it faster with loading? ive taken off programs that i thought would slow it down and ive even cleared all my cache and cookies.

For a machine that old:

- uninstall all software you do not actually use
- switch off system restore and the trash can to save some disk space
- defragment D:
- move the swap file to D: (if its on C: ) and defragment C:
- run a registry cleaner to get rid of old registry entries, start-up items, etc
- make your swap file be a fixed size (initial size and final size the same, so it doesn't fragment)
- set all your performance settings to the lowest vales (eg no animations, no background image, etc)

Also, see if you can upgrade the memory, if you can find out what sort of memory it uses.

I would warn against putting too much money into upgrades, because basically you need a new everything but more memory always helps.

Also, you might consider going back to windows 2000 if that is what it came with. Lower minimum memory requirement - 64 for 2000, 128 for XP. And thats just for running the OS, not running any programs. With the amount of memory you have, as soon as you run an application you are swapping memory to disk, which is way slower than rnning in memory directly.

Also, backing up your data and doing a clean install of the OS might be easier, better and faster than trying to clean out the current install.
post #7 of 19
First of all, why is ur cpu at 799MHz? Maybe running it at half speed is making ur computer slow. Plus, get more ram, at least 512, or install win2k instead.
post #8 of 19
His laptop is using a mobile Sempron 2800+ and like the P-M's and Athlon64's, it has speedstep. It will run at 800mhz when the system is idle. It's full clock speed should be 1.6ghz.

The biggest bottlenecks in the system are the RAM and hard drive. You are running 256mb with 64mb shared for video. The hard drive is most likely 4200rpm. Getting another 512mb of RAM and a faster hard drive (5400/7200rpm) will improve loading and overall performance significantly.

The RAM will run anywhere from $45-$70 and the hard drive $60-200+ (depending on capacities and RPM).
post #9 of 19
Dude, find out what type of RAM you have and at least buy 512mb of it.

It wont run you more than $70.
post #10 of 19
It definatley looks like there is something set wrong that it's running at 800MHz. Make sure it's plugged in and running at full power, then check it again using Notebook Harware Control or something like that.

192Mb ram is pretty low. You should be able to get that up to at least a gig, so I'd say get at the very least 256mb in there, but 512 would be much smoother. Then follow some of the instructions that ChrisLilly mentioned for tweaking the OS to get a bit more umph out of it. I'd also suggest turning off Disk indexing for faster searches and set the windows theme to "classic Windows".

Are those two partitions on the same physical HDD? I'm not familiar with the acer's, but I doubt that one had dual HDD's. If it is the same physical drive moving the swap partition won't make much difference.
post #11 of 19
I have the same laptop the best way to speed it up is to install more ram. So far I've add 1 Gig of ram and a 7200rpm hd. Between the two upgrades I saw the biggest preformance jump after the ram was installed. Also the only reason the proccesor is listed at 800mhz is because of the powersetting it on. I leave it set at "portable/laptop" setting. It throttles the proccesor to minimal and max power depending on usage.
post #12 of 19
People:

Do not make comments like "There are cell phones faster than that."

First, this isn't true.
Second, it's insulting.
Third, his laptop isn't that poorly performing. My mother has a machine older than that (Athlon XP 2400+) and it still chugs along just fine.

Fourth, computers DO NOT become "decrepit and old" in a few years. They still will do everything that they did when they were young. They may not run the newest version of Windows PhotoWanker 3000 or whatever, but old machines are still perfectly serviceable.

Now the technical advice:

First, the fact that the processor is at 800 MHz is no cause for concern. Laptop processors reduce their speed on the fly to reduce heat buildup and save battery power. They do this even when they're plugged in. No, this won't reduce performance -- you can be confident that whenever you need the full speed of your processor, it'll be there for you.

Second, your computer is plenty powerful enough to do almost anything (bar gaming) that you want it to do. The only thing it lacks is RAM; since WinXP is such a pig, 192 MB isn't really enough.

Unfortunately, the only way to fix this is to get more RAM. There's not much demand for smallish sticks of DDR1 RAM any more; you might be able to pick up a 512 MB stick for cheap ($30 or less). If you add more RAM to your computer, it'll solve all your problems (unless you have something else the matter, like a spyware infestation).

Don't listen to the folks that say that you need a new computer. Unless you want to play the newest games, your machine is more than sufficient (once you add RAM to it) to do all sorts of stuff. Sure, there's some stuff you can't do on that machine; I wouldn't want to do computational physics on it. But for what I'm guessing you want it for, it's plenty sufficient.

(Just because there are new cars out doesn't mean I need to junk my '94 Saturn. It still works fine!)

If you can't get more RAM, there are some things you can do to help:

1. Turn off all components of Windows XP you don't need. Set it to Classic Mode (or whatever the oldschool style of display is).

2. Use the web browser Opera (www.opera.com) rather than Firefox. It has a much smaller memory footprint.

3. Close programs you don't need when you're done with them.

4. When your computer starts thrashing the hard drive and being slow, it's "swapping" things out of memory to disk in order to make room for new stuff. When it does this, don't ask it to do even more stuff until it gets done moving things between memory and disk.

Good luck!
post #13 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by g00nter
It definatley looks like there is something set wrong that it's running at 800MHz.

I am astounded at the number of people who don't know the answer to this problem.

This guy even posted this message after someone had already said what the misunderstanding stems from.

When CPU loads are low (i.e. idle, e.g. checking System for clock speed) a modern mobile CPU will reduce its multiplier and voltage to save energy.

That so many of you people would think a 2800+ CPU would run at 800MHz doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

Bams: buy a stick (SODIMM) of 256MB SDRAM to place in your empty slot. It should make laptop life much better.
post #14 of 19
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Entropius
People: Do not make comments like "There are cell phones faster than that." First, this isn't true. Second, it's insulting. Third, his laptop isn't that poorly performing. My mother has a machine older than that (Athlon XP 2400+) and it still chugs along just fine. Fourth, computers DO NOT become "decrepit and old" in a few years. They still will do everything that they did when they were young. They may not run the newest version of Windows PhotoWanker 3000 or whatever, but old machines are still perfectly serviceable. Now the technical advice: First, the fact that the processor is at 800 MHz is no cause for concern. Laptop processors reduce their speed on the fly to reduce heat buildup and save battery power. They do this even when they're plugged in. No, this won't reduce performance -- you can be confident that whenever you need the full speed of your processor, it'll be there for you. Second, your computer is plenty powerful enough to do almost anything (bar gaming) that you want it to do. The only thing it lacks is RAM; since WinXP is such a pig, 192 MB isn't really enough. Unfortunately, the only way to fix this is to get more RAM. There's not much demand for smallish sticks of DDR1 RAM any more; you might be able to pick up a 512 MB stick for cheap ($30 or less). If you add more RAM to your computer, it'll solve all your problems (unless you have something else the matter, like a spyware infestation). Don't listen to the folks that say that you need a new computer. Unless you want to play the newest games, your machine is more than sufficient (once you add RAM to it) to do all sorts of stuff. Sure, there's some stuff you can't do on that machine; I wouldn't want to do computational physics on it. But for what I'm guessing you want it for, it's plenty sufficient. (Just because there are new cars out doesn't mean I need to junk my '94 Saturn. It still works fine!) If you can't get more RAM, there are some things you can do to help: 1. Turn off all components of Windows XP you don't need. Set it to Classic Mode (or whatever the oldschool style of display is). 2. Use the web browser Opera (www.opera.com) rather than Firefox. It has a much smaller memory footprint. 3. Close programs you don't need when you're done with them. 4. When your computer starts thrashing the hard drive and being slow, it's "swapping" things out of memory to disk in order to make room for new stuff. When it does this, don't ask it to do even more stuff until it gets done moving things between memory and disk. Good luck!
thankyou so much for your advice and for the other ppl who replied it's not like i can just pull money out of thin air and get a new one ok and second of all im a chick so lay off the critisizing. anywho, ok so i know my way round my laptop pretty well, but to speed it up until i can get some extra cash, in what areas of my laptop can i change some things like settings etc.
post #15 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by bamsladyinblack
in what areas of my laptop can i change some things like settings etc.

Some of these were already mentioned, but you can try disabling some unecessary XP services. Use this guide to find which ones are safe to disable. You can also try looking in BIOS (usually F1 or F2 at boot screen) for shared memory settings. You should be able to change the shared memory from 64mb down to 8/16mb. This will give you a bit of extra memory to use for programs. There's also getting rid of any programs you don't use and remove programs running in the system tray.

That should help out a little, but I would get some more ram ASAP. Your laptop uses PC2700 200-pin DDR SODIMM.
post #16 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by bamsladyinblack
im a chick so lay off the critisizing.

Why should it matter that you're a girl?

There are girls who know a bunch about computers and girls who don't, just like there are guys who do and guys who don't. Just because you're a girl doesn't mean that people shouldn't be mean to you; they shouldn't be mean to you regardless.

Your machine does indeed use PC2700 DDR laptop (SODIMM) memory. PC2700 is the speed; that speed or anything faster, like PC3200 memory, will work. DDR is the type of memory; you cannot use DDR2 memory, since it's something entirely different. I know you can't pull money out of thin air (I can't either; I wish I could!), but adding more memory to your machine will give you a HUGE improvement in performance for a minor cost. Even a little bit more will help tremendously.

The reason this helps, by the way, is that it's very common for you to need more RAM than you actually have. Even computers with much more RAM than you run out sometimes. In order to keep working, they use their hard disks as "overflow" memory, shuffling data that's not being used at the moment to the hard disk in order to make room in RAM.

The only problem with this is that hard disks are much, much, MUCH slower than RAM. So, as you can imagine, whenever your computer has to use the hard disk as overflow memory, things slow down considerably. The less RAM you have, the more your machine has to "swap" (shuffle things back and forth between RAM and the hard drive); getting just a little more will reduce swapping considerably and speed stuff up.

Which programs tend to load especially slowly? Maybe we can suggest less memory-consuming programs that do the same things.

Another thing you can do is to hit control-alt-delete. This will bring up the Windows Task Manager. Click on the "Processes" tab to show all programs running on your computer. (You won't recognize some of them; that's okay.) Then click on the "Mem Usage" header to sort the programs by how much memory they use, and see what programs are taking most of your memory.

ViolatorX's advice to reduce the amount of memory your video adapter uses is good advice. The graphics processors on many laptops don't have their own memory; instead they "borrow" some of your system's memory to use for graphics tasks. Your computer actually has 256 MB of RAM, but your graphics processor has taken over 64 MB of it. You don't actually need this much unless you are playing 3D games (but you have it all set aside for graphics anyway, so Windows can't get at it), so you can reduce it to 8 or 16 MB (in your BIOS; ask for help if you need advice on how to do this).

-Entropius, whose girlfriend has a nicer laptop than he does
post #17 of 19
Thread Starter 
thank you all for all your help i have now done some of the advice most of u gave me and my laptop is now running alot faster
post #18 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by g00nter
Are those two partitions on the same physical HDD? I'm not familiar with the acer's, but I doubt that one had dual HDD's. If it is the same physical drive moving the swap partition won't make much difference.

Thats true.

The reason I suggested those steps in the order I did was that te built-in XP defragger can't defrag the swap file. Defragging the partition its not on, before creating the swapfile there (at a fixed size) ensures the swapfile is not itself fragmented. That procedure also makes defragging more efficient (the more free space, the better).

Of course, if someone has Diskeeper then they have more flexible and efficient defrag options.
post #19 of 19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisLilley
Thats true.

The reason I suggested those steps in the order I did was that te built-in XP defragger can't defrag the swap file. Defragging the partition its not on, before creating the swapfile there (at a fixed size) ensures the swapfile is not itself fragmented. That procedure also makes defragging more efficient (the more free space, the better).

Of course, if someone has Diskeeper then they have more flexible and efficient defrag options.

lol sorry but i dont understand what u are saying im dont really know that much computer technical talk
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