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post #1 of 14
7/6/06 at 3:51pm
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Will they be DX 10 cards? What are the chances of being able to upgrade from the m1710?
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post #2 of 14
7/6/06 at 5:14pm
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Originally Posted by Alternate1985
Will they be DX 10 cards?
Yes (If they were DX 9d, 9e they would not be 'next gen' I guess....
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Originally Posted by Alternate1985
What are the chances of being able to upgrade from the m1710?
About 5%?
The chance of a different form factor, different cooling system, or different power requirements is fairly high, I suspect. Who knows, PCIe might be superceeded by another slot by then, too.
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post #3 of 14
7/6/06 at 5:44pm
That sucks.
I was hoping my XPS-2 would be up for some serious DX10 horse power GPU carnage....
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post #4 of 14
7/7/06 at 3:41am
The bad thing about future prospects is it *seems* both nVidia and ATI are going with power-guzzlers for their DX10 cards.

How much they'll be able to ratchet down the wattage demand and ergo the TDP will weigh heavily on just how effective a DX10 notebook part will be able to provide.

Initial leaked data hints at G80 being a true dual-core chip, and rumor has it the thermal figures from BOTH ATI's and nVidia's offerings will be well over the thermal figures of the current X2s/P9xx'es.
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post #5 of 14
7/7/06 at 4:00am
I'm up for some 1ghz dual-core GPU action .

thewird
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post #6 of 14
7/7/06 at 5:49am
Damn DX10, whatever... They'll find a way to make it fit in a laptop, they want the $
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post #7 of 14
7/7/06 at 6:03am
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Originally Posted by stormlifter
Damn DX10, whatever... They'll find a way to make it fit in a laptop, they want the $
I'm sure they will find a way to fit it into a laptop. I doubt it will be a drop-in replacement for a current laptop.
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post #8 of 14
7/7/06 at 7:36am
They'll find a way - but I'm sure it'll be 1) far less of a 1-to-1 match for stock performance that the current 68/78/7900 Go parts give at-present, and 2) offer much worse battery life, despite .09 micron or smaller process size.

Granted, #2 is a bit of a Catch-22. People who want top-shelf performance on battery are living in a fantasy world until we can somehow miniaturize nuclear reactors and fit them in a fashion that won't sterilize or kill the user.
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post #9 of 14
7/7/06 at 11:13am
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Originally Posted by Darkwolf_1982
That sucks.
I was hoping my XPS-2 would be up for some serious DX10 horse power GPU carnage....
Not sure if you know this but the XPS-2 can't even upgrade to the latest 7900GS or 7900GTX cards so anything newer than that no dice.

I can say with certainty that you will not be able to put a DX10 piece into any current laptop due to architectural differences.
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post #10 of 14
7/7/06 at 3:53pm
Well with the Orginal XPS, and XPS 2, there was one gpu upgrade
9700---->9800Pro
6800---->7800GTX
7900---->????

You might see a Direct X 10 card, we may not. Its all up in the air ATM.
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post #11 of 14
7/7/06 at 4:24pm
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Originally Posted by vengance_01
You might see a Direct X 10 card, we may not. Its all up in the air ATM.
You won't see a DX10 card for the current generation laptops, you can trust me on that... nothing is up in the air

And btw according to your little chart what does the M170's 7800GTX card upgrade to? ... oh yeah there was an architecture change not even close to the scope of the DX10 cards
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post #12 of 14
7/7/06 at 8:05pm
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Originally Posted by Imperil
You won't see a DX10 card for the current generation laptops, you can trust me on that... nothing is up in the air

And btw according to your little chart what does the M170's 7800GTX card upgrade to? ... oh yeah there was an architecture change not even close to the scope of the DX10 cards

Well be fair, the XPS Gen.2 and the M170 are the same system 100%.
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post #13 of 14
7/8/06 at 1:33am
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Originally Posted by WilliamG
Well be fair, the XPS Gen.2 and the M170 are the same system 100%.
Ture but the first Gen 2 came with a 6800 Ultra only, and latter the 7800 GTX Came out. And to the poster above me you have no idea so how can you say no. Please prove me wrong
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post #14 of 14
7/8/06 at 1:39am
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Originally Posted by vengance_01
Ture but the first Gen 2 came with a 6800 Ultra only, and latter the 7800 GTX Came out. And to the poster above me you have no idea so how can you say no. Please prove me wrong
Yeah I agree with the Gen2/M170 comment, although that wasn't my point.

But considering I work with DX10 all day as part of my job I know the specifications on the boards (although they will obviously change between now and fab) and I know what has changed in order to properly support some of the new features and driver model. So I'll say again.. don't hold your breathe because you won't see a DX10 piece in a current generation notebook.
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