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Good OC on E1505 + x1400? (3dMark05)

post #1 of 19
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Not shown: CPU score 5608
ATI Catalyst Moblity 6.6 Driver

First time I've overclocked anything. It really wasn't too hard. Just some trial and error and a few BSODs (I was too eager to push up the clocks). If I push the memory clock above 459 MHz it instantly artifacts in 3DMark05. 573 MHz seems like the limit for the core, but left it at 550 MHz since the CPU score fell and 3DMark barely increased when over 550. Otherwise everything seems stable now.

How are the {max temps}? Good OC for the E1505 with x1400?
post #2 of 19
I can't help with the temps but as far as score I'd say that's very good! That's one of the highest I've seen.
post #3 of 19
That sucker is prolly pretty memory bandwidth limited. All you're overclocking on the RAM lis the ittle bitty local 64-bit RAM cache, which has so little bandwidth already that overclocking it is sorta pointless lol.

I can't stand this new Hypermemory thing.

For example, that's hardly twice what my old eMachines 6805's Radeon 9600 could do (1190 3dmark05). That had 64 MB local RAM 128-bit bus. Clocks were 300/200. It could run 420/230, but I don't have any benches at that anymore. http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1894160
post #4 of 19
that's actually a good clock for the card. temps seem to be ok too (but this is comming from a guy whose cpu gets up to 74 :P).
post #5 of 19
on stock settings and omega drivers I get scores as below (in sig).

The question is - is the overclocking really worth it ? If I were to strive for a score such as yours - am I going to notice a difference when play BF2 ? Do I really care if I get 33fps instead of 30fps ?
post #6 of 19
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Originally Posted by cshieldsx
on stock settings and omega drivers I get scores as below (in sig).

The question is - is the overclocking really worth it ? If I were to strive for a score such as yours - am I going to notice a difference when play BF2 ? Do I really care if I get 33fps instead of 30fps ?

how did you get 1900's with stock settings? for omega drivers?
post #7 of 19
No idea dude ! All I did was remove some of the bloatware dell had pre-installed, and defragged the hard disk. I used driver cleaner pro to get rid of the shitty drivers and installed the omega drivers in safe mode. Ran 3Dmark05 and got 1902. I was pleased. Maybe Im just lucky ? Maybe its the 2GB RAM ? I dunno...can anyone shed light on why people are getting getting different scores with the same drivers+settings+specs ??
post #8 of 19
Where can i get the ATI Radeon Mobility Catalyst 6.6 drivers? I have an x1400 on my e1505 and i want to update my video drivers. Thanks.

John.
post #9 of 19
I haven't tried 3DMark05 but my best 3dMark03 score is 4370 - have you tried that?
post #10 of 19
thanks roloxc for ur guide and dareness which tempted me to do oerclock on my laptop with same configuration as urs.....

here is my 3d mark results...


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i am not able to post my pictures... how did u do that?

3d mark05 score-2159 with clock settings at 550.13mhz & ram @441mhz....

i was very sad because it didnt allow me to go beyond 441 mhz in ram clock speed...how did u go? i encountered blurring of screen 2 times, so i was scared to push it further. i left it there only. now i am happy with what i have got at present, its better than before....

once again thanks for ur advice.....i couldnt use ati catalyst 6.6 drivers, i used the mobile version of 6.6 catalyst drivers which was given on dell site for x1400....

6.6 catalyst driver is not detecting my x1400 card.... where did u get that?

my one more question, like this for graphics card, can u tell me how and which software to use to oerclock the mother board? is it safe doing that on laptop? if yes till what limit its safe to overclock it.....

i will be waiting for ur valuable reply roloxc......
post #11 of 19
3dmark05 = 2187

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1981691
Stock Dell Drivers GPU @ 550 and Memory @ 450

Although I rarely run it at this speed because I don't game much anymore. Don't even have powerstrip installed at the moment.
post #12 of 19
to Roloxc : i want to benmark Dell E1505.I want a monitoring CPU,GPU,VGA temp.Can you help me.Thanks.
email : idea2docom@yahoo.com
post #13 of 19
any of yall use ati tool? i tried to overclock and underclock(for battery life) and if i move it 5 mhz it freezes.........on my x1400
post #14 of 19
i get the freeze with ati tool as well.. think its a compatibility issue
post #15 of 19
I ran this out of the box and got a 222 with T2400 and x1300 1GB of ram. Is this way out of the norm?
post #16 of 19
Just a comment on the temps. If your using I8KfanGUI, your temps may not be setup correctly.

I've also concluded this problem 100% with the use of freeze spray to directly cool specific parts being monitored.

If you look at the temps as the fan kicks on, the GPU temps should suddenly rise slightly due to the fact the CPU/chipset heat pipe is blowing hot air onto the GPU heatpipe. The CPU temp is correct, but my Memory, chipset and GPU temps were not in the correct order.

The GPU temp should rise slightly when the fan kicks on and then gradually reduce as the CPU temp lowers. When the fan turns off, the GPU temp dips a little bit because it is no longer getting the heat from the CPU/Chipset heatpipe blown onto its heatsink.

The chipset temp is higher than the CPU temp and follows the CPU temp as it reduces because they are on the same heatpipe. The chipset temp is usually much higher than the CPU temp due to its poor thermal interface with the heatsink and heatpipe. This is a result of the thermal foam used to fill a 1/16 inch gap between the Chipset die and the heatsink (AKA Poor Design)

The Memory temp (motherboard temp) is fairly consistant because no air is moving across it when the system fan turns on and off, and because the sensor is actually monitoring the motherboard temperature near the memory which stays at a failrly steady level regardless of load.

CPU temp has the most fluctuations due to the fact that it is closest to the fan and has the shortest heatpipe and also responds directly to CPU load and voltage and speedstepping. You can directly see the temp of the CPU rise when CPU usage rises.

The harddrive temp stays fairly steady unless you add air flow underneith it. the temperature is updated much slower on the hard drive so you will see updates to the temp much slower, but in larger increments.

On my system the sensors are setup as follows:

CPU Sensor Index: 0
GPU Sensor Index: 1
Memory Sensor Index: 3
Chipset Sensor Index: 2

With this configuration the temps actually make sense and follow a pattern of logic. Also, like a typical desktop, the GPU temp is the highest. My home computer's ATI X850XT Platinum runs about 50 to 65 C all stock.
post #17 of 19
Basically, I would just like to quickly point out how the x1400 is way too under-rated. I've just been fiddling about with the settings in BF2 and using FRAPS to monitor the frame rate - it does bloody well.

1024x768 Low Settings (No AA): averages about 45FPS

High Settings (No AA): Averages about 22FPS

What I play it on is the medium settings - with texture and effects on high, and AA on 2x , and it looks pretty decent and I get a frame rate of about 30FPS average - which is fine. Not supersmooth, but more than enough to not affect gameplay.

All I'm saying is that for a mobility GPU its really quite decent for the money !


(PS All these frame rates are with no overclocking - so clearly with all these overclocks getting 3dmark05 up to 2200 - these frame rates can be pushed up much higher)
post #18 of 19
1900 (3DMark05) with latest Omega Drivers...no overclock.
post #19 of 19
would u recommend getting the 6.7 omega drivers? or using the mobility moddder to mad the 6.8's?
i wish ATI had a 3d AND 2d overclock profiles. setting it manual kinda kills it for me.
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