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post #1 of 16
7/16/06 at 4:57am
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Hey with the NX560X do I need nething to be able to run cable through it? I see that it has bluetooth and wireless networking, but idk if that's just for dial up. Ne info would help. I was reading up on routers and stuff like that, but it sounds like that just expands ur connection.

idk I'm confused.
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post #2 of 16
7/16/06 at 4:29pm
I assume you hare talking about cable internet, and not cable TV?

Bluetooth is a short range wireless networking protocol used most often for connecting cell phones, PDA's, headsets, etc to your PC. It can be used for traditional networking also, but is rarely used for that purpose.

You can run your cable through a wireless router and use the wireless networking integrated into your PC. This will give you the freedom to roam around your house/yard and not need to be tethered to a wire for internet connection.
There is another "free"option for you. You can connect the cable modem directly to the computer via ethernet cable from your cable modem to the ethernet port on the computer (unless you have a USB only cable modem).
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post #3 of 16
7/16/06 at 10:55pm
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yea that's right I was talking about the internet.. so there's no rout I can take that will get me cable when I don't have a router or cable modem to begin with? haha ur pry pissed at how much I don't know, but I really appreciate ur help.
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post #4 of 16
7/17/06 at 1:38am
Not pissed at all. Just hope I can be of help. That's what the forum is here for. This place isn't like a lot of forums where no0bs are flamed (at least I haven't seen much in this section). There are lots of very friendly, helpful people here.

As for the last question, there are some routers with the cable modem intgrated, but I don't know of any offhand that also have wireless integrated (but honestly haven't looked). Using two seperate boxes with most cable systems is pretty painless though. For the most part, it will be plug and play. If you don't mind being tied to the wire, you won't even need a seperate router though (assuming only one PC will be connected).
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post #5 of 16
7/17/06 at 1:44am
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you lost me... so it wouldn't be as easy as buying a router than programing it to my laptop to look for the modem?

My general question was like lets say I'm on the road would I be able to use the internet w/out a modem being near me or would I have to use dial up?
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post #6 of 16
7/17/06 at 2:57am
You would have to use dial-up. Sorry, I misunderstood your question. Many hotels do have wireless access at them now, though. If you wind up staying at such a place, they will give you the settings you need to connect to it with your laptop. You won't need to buy anything else.
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post #7 of 16
7/17/06 at 1:42pm
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oh that's tight... so all I'd need is a router and I'm good to go?
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post #8 of 16
7/17/06 at 6:29pm
No router would be needed for access at a hotel with wireless access. Your machine already has a wireless card, and that's all you will need.

You will need a router if you are wanting to connect cable at your house either to multiple computers simultaneously, or via wireless.
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post #9 of 16
7/17/06 at 7:43pm
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oooh ok... so with the wireless networking that makes it so I can use my cable modem at home without having to be attached to it? I'm sorry I got bluetooth and that totally mixed up.
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post #10 of 16
7/17/06 at 8:36pm
Correct. With a wireless router attached to the cable modem, your laptop's integrated wireless can connect to your cable modem.
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post #11 of 16
7/17/06 at 10:36pm
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tight.. hey thanx for all ur help
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post #12 of 16
8/2/06 at 7:11pm
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Originally Posted by Thunder_PC
Not pissed at all. Just hope I can be of help. That's what the forum is here for. This place isn't like a lot of forums where no0bs are flamed (at least I haven't seen much in this section). There are lots of very friendly, helpful people here.

As for the last question, there are some routers with the cable modem intgrated, but I don't know of any offhand that also have wireless integrated (but honestly haven't looked). Using two seperate boxes with most cable systems is pretty painless though. For the most part, it will be plug and play. If you don't mind being tied to the wire, you won't even need a seperate router though (assuming only one PC will be connected).

Actually, I think some of the providers in this area anyway, (SBC or Cox, one of them the 2-Wire I think is SBC) supply cable or dsl modems with integrated wireless, but they don't advertise it. So if the subscriber is a noob who doesn't know they've got it, it's possible they're sharing b/w for free without realizing it. There's also others who make it a career hobby to trawl for those free AP's.
As for bluetooth, I think it is more prominent in the Apple community. Are the Intel-based laptops going that route now?
One benefit of the bluetooth receiver in the Macs I read about is that if one person is hooked up, (by cable, I guess) they can act as a bluetooth AP for other Macs.....but basically in the same room, since it's very short broadcast.
So you're not going to have the range to snarf b/w, say if you lived in an apartment complex, with just bluetooth.
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post #13 of 16
8/2/06 at 8:37pm
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Originally Posted by pharlaptop
As for bluetooth, I think it is more prominent in the Apple community. Are the Intel-based laptops going that route now?

It has been available for x86 for years. I have only been using it about 3 years, but it's not exactly new to the "Intel based" world.

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One benefit of the bluetooth receiver in the Macs I read about is that if one person is hooked up, (by cable, I guess) they can act as a bluetooth AP for other Macs.....but basically in the same room, since it's very short broadcast.
So you're not going to have the range to snarf b/w, say if you lived in an apartment complex, with just bluetooth.

That is not exclusive to Macs. That is one of bluetooth's many features. It can be used for short range "personal area network" (PAN).
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post #14 of 16
8/2/06 at 11:11pm
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Originally Posted by Thunder_PC
It has been available for x86 for years. I have only been using it about 3 years, but it's not exactly new to the "Intel based" world.

I know that. What I meant was is Gateway going Bluetooth with their Intel-based laptops and getting away from the Broadcom/linksys integrated G cards? I guess I've just looked at so many eMachines and Gateways with AMD cpus that have the integrated wireless chips that bluetooth seems dell-ish or Mac-ish.
Actually, this model he's got looks alot like some of the new dells. I wonder if dell is also going Arima, yathink?

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That is not exclusive to Macs. That is one of bluetooth's many features. It can be used for short range "personal area network" (PAN).

Yes, I know, and it's an attractive offset for their short range. Macs, they tend to act like they invented some of the technologies they didn't- although they've always been supportive of it, iirc. I wasn't aware of that many x86 laptops that were exclusively bluetooth.
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post #15 of 16
8/3/06 at 3:01am
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Originally Posted by pharlaptop
I wonder if dell is also going Arima, yathink?
For Dell's sake, I hope not!
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post #16 of 16
8/3/06 at 10:04am
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Originally Posted by Thunder_PC
For Dell's sake, I hope not!

Anytime I see laptops specced with the 15.4" screen and some other components that Arima uses alot, I start wondering that. But, come to think of it, Dell bought up Alienware, which does (or did) rebrand at least one Arima....
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