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Sony Vaio V505DX

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
This is a shameless crosspost from the Notebook General discussion forum. I worked up a major post on this notebook and I wanted people not reading that thread to be able to see the post.

I have had a V505DX for about 2 months now. My opinion of the machine? It's one little beast of a 4.5lbs machine! I can play Star Wars KOTOR on this thing at 1024x768 playable. Try that with a Intel Integrated or ATI IGP (I get pixel shaders too) !

The only complaint I have with the machine is that the viewable angle on the LCD could be wider. It's definitely not the best LCD in existence, but it's also not anywhere near bad.

The CPU power of the 1.4 P-M is very acceptable for every task I've thrown at it. Believe it or not, with the SSE2 instructions, it will utterly destroy my Athlon XP 3200+ at Divx encoding. Every game I've run is video card limited, mainly due to the 9200's paltry 64-bit bus (32MB VRAM automatically means 64-bit bus).

One thing of note, and very strange, is that during a multiplayer game of Total Annihilation, my little laptop with it's 1.4GHz CPU and 4200RPM HDD loaded the session faster than every other system, including a P4 2.66 800 bus 5400RPM Sager. There's definitely something going on with that 1MB L2 cache. Go super-tweaked P6 architecture!

The air inlets and outlets for the near-silent fan are on the sides so you can put it on your lap (try that P4 owners). The magnesium case is very nice.

I can play Divx movies with it in battery mode, the fan will never come on in this mode and it will get just lukewarm. The CPU clocks from 250MHz up to 1400Mhz in increments depending on the Power Mode (completely configurable with Sony's Powerpanel). In max battery mode, running office apps, I can get 4 hours or more of battery. I could play a 3D game in this mode and get probably 2 hours or more of life. Not absolutely stunning life, but more than I've ever had. One other interesting thing is that it hibernates like 2x faster than my desktop Athlon 3200/7200 RPM WD SE drive. Odd stuff!

I bought the V505DX because it fit what I wanted. A cool, quiet, and fast system that was as small as I could go and still not have shared crap video. Throw questions at me if you have them. This post is my attempt to solve the complete lack of good info on this laptop around the 'net.

3DMark 2003 Compare URL (9200 @ 275/265)
3DMark 2001SE Compare URL (9200 @ 275/265)
3Dmark 2001SE Compare URL (Vaio @ Defaults)
PCMark 2004 Compare URL (9200 @ 275/265)
Sandra 2004 System Report

post #2 of 22
man that V505 looks daaamn good =D

how far are you in KotOR? Awesome game but I felt it coulda been longer
post #3 of 22
Yeah that v505 is a sweet notebook.
post #4 of 22
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by StormX02
man that V505 looks daaamn good =D

how far are you in KotOR? Awesome game but I felt it coulda been longer

I beat it once with a light side character. Working on it again with a dark side fellow. I have to say it's easier to be dark
post #5 of 22
Thread Starter 
More review:

The V505 is about an inch thick when closed, and is about the size of a piece of paper in area I suppose. I have to say that it really suprised me with it's near weightlessnes. It is so light.

Remember that with shared video memory not only will your video performance really suck, it will also slow down the system in general because you are losing main memory bandwidth to video operations. I will never go with a non-dedicated solution. Even a ATI IGP is questionable unless the notebook is very low cost, IMO. The IGP 9100 could be an interesting option though.

Overall, I am very impressed with my notebook. It is very quick which I partially attribute to Intel's IDE controller. This thing is quick, even with that 4200 RPM hard drive. The notebook is near silent without the fan running, the hard drive is near silent with its fluid bearings, and its seek sounds are quite muted as well. This is probably one of the quietest actively cooled systems in existence.

I only wish Sony had gone with a 64MB dedicated video RAM solution. That would have given the 9200 a 128-bit memory bus along with the extra 32MB RAM. But, with a native LCD resolution of 1024x768, the 64-bit memory bus is not that much of a handicap.

The Pentium-M is just an awesome chip. It runs so cool that it doesn't need much fan power. In a performance per watt measurement, it would probably devastate a P4. I love it. I wish I could get one for my desktop to get rid of the darned fans.

The V505DX uses PC2700 DDR for main memory which is quite nice. It is upgradeable to 2GB. The SODIMMs are easily accessed behind the keyboard with the removal of one screw.

The CPU is socketed which means potential upgrades!

The optical is a matsu****a drive which is ok. I wish it was a Toshiba because I have had the best luck over the years with their drives. But, it definitely gets the job done. I have had problems reading some scratched CDs that read ok in my desktop. But remember, notebook drives are harder to build well because they are much smaller than the 5.25" drives in desktops.

Audio quality of the V505's codec is quite impressive. It sounds better than a Sound Blaster Live from what I can tell. Very clear, wide stereo separation, very good frequency response. I wish I could test it scientifically, but I don't have the equipment. I think the quality may be a result of Sony going with a Yamaha Codec. Even the notebook's external speakers are pretty decent. Granted they are highpass filtered to get rid of all bass for the puny drivers, but it still sounds suprisingly clear and good for watching Divx or listening to music quietly.

I don't miss a floppy drive

The system has 2 USB 2.0 ports, one on each side of the notebook. Useful placement I believe. A firewire port is on the left as well.

No legacy ports. No PS2, serial, parallel. There is a VGA out behind a cover on the left side. Also there is a docking port connection.

The wireless is Intel Centrino 802.11b. It works quite well, with strong reception for quite a decent distance. I have had some interference with other wireless cards, most notably a Linksys recently. But it still worked fine other than a occasional 2 second disconnect. The system also has a 10/100 Intel LE chipset which works quite well for wired ethernet.

Ok, that's it, my brain is drained
post #6 of 22
Thanks for posting the review!!!

I've been drooling over the 505, and now that I've seen your post it's convinced me to put up the $$$ for a new laptop. Currently Sony is offering the 505EC on their web site, but they won't ship to an FPO address.
post #7 of 22
I just stopped by CompUSA last night and the are selling the V505EX which is the same as the DX except a little faster processer at 1.5Ghz for $1599 after $300 rebate !!!!! Ends this Saturday !!! I plan on geting one, once I get back from my trip to California this Friday !!!
post #8 of 22

What frame rates do you get?...

...when you play Jedi Knights?
post #9 of 22

I totally Agree.This is a great notebook

I just got my v505 last week direct from sony style.I gotta tell you that this is the coolest sweetest laptop.It is really freakin quite and never gets hot it's amazing.I opted to go with the celeron processor at 2.0 ghz instead of the pentium because i read that they're about the same except one is cheaper.Don't be afraid to go with the celeron it's really fast and works great.I read that people were having trouble with the touchpad on this model but i haven't experienced any thus far in fact it's prob one of the best touchpads i"ve ever used......Andre
post #10 of 22
Hey swaaye,

Have you run into any problems (heat or otherwise) from setting the 9200 to default settings, i.e. 275/265? I just got a 505EX and am thinking of doing so myself. Why would Sony intentionally underclock the video card?

Thanks,
Mario64
post #11 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by mario64
Hey swaaye,
Why would Sony intentionally underclock the video card?

Thanks,
Mario64
To increase battery life...
post #12 of 22
Oh. Ok. So I should be ok raising the clock speed to default settings for a mobility 9200.

Thanks,
Mario64
post #13 of 22
What are the stock settings on the V505EX and what is the 9200's stock speed settings ???
post #14 of 22
Quote:
Originally Posted by JDELUNA
What are the stock settings on the V505EX and what is the 9200's stock speed settings ???
Stock settings on the V505EX are 210 core and 230 memory. Based upon this article, http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.html?i=1802&p=2, ATI's stock speeds for the mobility 9200 are 270/270. I sure hate the thought of losing that much performance just to save battery life......

Mario64
post #15 of 22
I gotta tell ya that that v505 has the worst battery life ever.I compared it with my averatec while using a wi fi card and I got a whole hour more out of my averatec so yeah the sony v505 has the absolute worst battery life;it runs down really quick even with it being on stanby and the monitor dimmed......Andre
post #16 of 22
Thats just because you had the celeron model.

You unfortunately broke the scred triad of godly technology:P.

Anyways... what did you expect from a Celeron? Bad performance comes along with the bad battery life. Proven fact in regards to the celeron. If the Celeron were meant to be good at mobile solutions (i.e. notebooks which require long battery life) then the P-M would never have been created.

post #17 of 22
Yeah, it must be the Celeron because mine, with a P-M 1.5, has outstanding battery performance.

Mario64
post #18 of 22
Never buy Celeron

Unless.... you want mediocre battery life and performance.
post #19 of 22
i dont buy celeron anything........MORE POWER!!! LOL
post #20 of 22
What is so sad is that people uneducated in processors would buy a Celeron CPU over a Athlon CPU. The Athlon is usually cheaper and way better in every way than the Celeron.
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