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post #1 of 16
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Ok, so I ordered an m9700 way back in May, doing enough research on the system to know it was what I wanted EXCEPT for one aspect. I ordered a decked out m9700 except for 2 things, the 1920x1200 screen and the tv tuner. The screen I honestly didn't care if I got, and the tv tuner, to be honest, I had no idea what it was/did so I didn't get it. Now I'm curious, since I didn't order the TV tuner does that mean that there is no way to hook my m9700 up to a device such as my satellite receiver or TV or DVD player to record things from them? If there is another way, please speak up and let me know as my gf has quite a few VHS movies that she would love to have copied onto DVD's as we can't actually buy them on DVD until they are actually released lol.
post #2 of 16
You can get an external tuner (USB) or a PCMCIA one. google it and check newegg and places like that. They're out there; I looked before I got my internal one. Thing is, AW would sell it to you, but for the m9700, it will only work in Media Center edition of Windows.
post #3 of 16
Thread Starter 
*shrugs* Well I got the media center edition...not sure why if I didnt get the tuner (Not sure what that edition does to be honest) I just didnt get the tuner and remote lol
post #4 of 16
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Now, would this http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/prodde...08&catid=20397
thing work? Curious as my m9700's vid cards are Nvidia and that thing is ATI. Would it be all friendly and such or would they fight like cats and/or dogs? :P
post #5 of 16
Yeah, that would work, the difference in brands doesn't make a difference. I have been using an ATI all-in-wonder video card w/ tv tuner on my desktop for almost two years now, and it has been great, no complaints whatsoever...
post #6 of 16
Have you called and asked AW if it would be possible to send it back and get the tv tuner installed as an upgrade?

The external things will work fine, but it's pretty handy to have it built in if you use it a lot...
post #7 of 16
Thread Starter 
Well, I don't plan to use it...ALOT. As I said its mainly for transfering VHS's to DVD's so my gf won't keep bugging me to buy her a new VCR since hers is busted :P. I just need somethin that'll get the job done on odd occasions when I need it to. And with all the waiting I've done for my m9700 I think I'd cry if I had to send it back or get it later just to have something installed that I could get at bestbuy or futureshop....I want that m9700 so freakin bad, Supposed to ship today or tomorrow....So since I'm up here in Canada I'm lookin at an end of the week/beginning of next week delivery.
post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by Straker2354
Well, I don't plan to use it...ALOT. As I said its mainly for transfering VHS's to DVD's so my gf won't keep bugging me to buy her a new VCR since hers is busted :P. I just need somethin that'll get the job done on odd occasions when I need it to. And with all the waiting I've done for my m9700 I think I'd cry if I had to send it back or get it later just to have something installed that I could get at bestbuy or futureshop....I want that m9700 so freakin bad, Supposed to ship today or tomorrow....So since I'm up here in Canada I'm lookin at an end of the week/beginning of next week delivery.

LOL, I hear you. The usb or external tv tuner will do the same thing as the internal, and it should work great for transfering tapes to digital files. You'll be able to fit a ton of vhs tapes on a single dvd also.
post #9 of 16
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Really? And you sound pretty knowledgable about such things, as with...well everything Alienware related lol so that brings me to a question, will an external tuner, using the media center edition of windows xp allow me to burn the vhs tapes onto a dvd and have it the proper format to watch on my dvd player? (I've got a year old sony 5 disc dvd player and I know it plays dvd+/-R's as I've backed up a couple of the movies I own to play here when my collection is at my gf's.) Just curious since I've never had much success burning things to VCD to watch on my player but well...thats cause I'm an idiot when it comes to some things :P.

And you mentioned fitting a bunch of VHS tapes onto one DVD, got a round figure? My gf says shes got 100's of older movies/episodes of TV on VHS and I can vouch for it since I've seen about a hundred, and shes got a couple boxes worth in her basement :P so it'd be nice to have a guestimate to let her know since shes sad that her "dead technology" is...well, dead.
post #10 of 16
About media center edition, I've never had it before so I can't really say, but you should be able to convert the vhs tapes to a format that will play on any dvd player. I understand that it used to be difficult early on to get dvd formats to cooperate, but with the combination drives and media that works with different formats it seems to be getting much better.

I've never burnt anything to dvd myself, still using cd's. My m9700 will be the first machine I'll be burning dvd's with. My older 5500 has a dvd burner, but I've never used it for that...

In regards to putting vhs tapes into digital and on your hd or in a format you can burn, it all depends on the settings you use to make the new files. You won't get really high quality files from vhs though, as they tend to be low res and not high quality. The more you convert, the more detail you'll lose also.

As for size of the files, a lot will depend on how much you compress the content as to size of the final files. You can record things at different bit rates that will affect quality, and final size also, so I really don't know how much stuff you'll be able to fit onto a DVD...

I've ripped a couple dvd movies, and converted them to mpeg movies that I was able to burn to cd's. In the process, you basically tell the software how large you want the final file, but the larger the final file the better quality usually. It's all a bit of trial and errror until you get used to it. If you rip a DVD directly to your hard drive, it'll be huge, like 4-6G for most movies. You can then convert that file to other forms like mpeg or avi, and compress them down to 700M so they'll fit on a single cd, or two 700M files to put on two cd's. Obviously the less compression the higher the quality...

I'll be converting vhs tapes to digital and burning to dvd also once I get my m9700 and some time, so I'll be trying to figure this out too. It's a new area for me though, so sorry I can't answer your question better...
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post #12 of 16
Thread Starter 
Ah, thanks for the link Kaz . Now all I gotta do is surf around and get reviews for that and http://www.wintroniccomputers.com/wi...0179df984e0012 which I can get for about 50 bucks canadian from a friend who works at that company.
post #13 of 16
The resolution on that VOX tv-tuner is only 720x480 Not to sure about the ATI one with Resolution, but Im sure it is better.

VOX maybe good.
post #14 of 16
Thread Starter 
Oh yeah, forgot to consider resolution as a major factor....duh. Good call
post #15 of 16
I've used one of these:

http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/product...prod/AVC-2210/

To transfer vhs to dvd (under linux). It doesn't have a tv-tuner, just composite in. The nice thing is, the video stream it outputs is already mpeg2, so no transcoding required.

This:

http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/product...o_pc/AVC-2310/

is the version that has a tv-tuner. Probably has the same compatability.
post #16 of 16
That's true, for vhs to digital, you can use a video capture card that doesn't also have the tv-tuner incorporated...
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