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About my Dv8000t...

post #1 of 24
7/18/06 at 2:45am
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Just got my DV8000t today.. and I freakin love it.. but I do have a few gripes and concerns about it..

1) The 80gb disc was broken into 3 partitions.. OS (50), Backup (16), and Quickplay (1)... It took 2 hours to uninstall all the added HP stuff.. I just want a basically fresh install of just MCE.. But I only have the Backup Disc

2) This thing runs really hot when under load..
Idle - 118F (It was idling at 130 earlier, but now it leveled at 118)
Load - Up to 162F/72c

Sorry, not quite sure on the Celcius calculations, ive always learned F.. but yeah.. 162F is fxckin HOT.. I figure anything over 125 is dangerous.. I might gather the strength to disassemble this thing and put some AS5 on the CPU and GPU.. but i dont think itll drop 162F much.. maybe down to 150 or so..
Are these CPU's OK t run that hot?

3) Light leakage...
Once starting the computer, the bottom of the screen is light up far more than the top, once it gets to a GUI its fine but it still looks a bit brighter atthe bottom.. Its not bad enough to want to send the lappy back.. but is there anything I can do to help prevent this..




Other than that, this thing is great.. Runs Doom3 on Ultra almost Flawlessly with 4xAA.. got 8410 on my 3Dmark-03 Test.. my ZD7000 only got 3124 so im pretty happy with the results.. im hoping this will break 9000 with the AS5, a slight Oc, and 2gb of Ram..

The screen is flawless.. It came with the glossy screen 1440x900, looks damned good.. As long as this thing doesnt die, I think im gonna have this lappy for a good long time.. its everything I need..

-Evil Juggalo
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post #2 of 24
7/18/06 at 4:55am
I can't give you any help, but my dv8000t is on its way, and ths post makes me really damn excited. what are your total specs?
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post #3 of 24
7/18/06 at 5:39am
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2.0Ghz Core Duo
1gb DDR2 533
80gb SATA
DVD+/-RW w/ Lightscribe
17" 1440x900 WXGA Glossy Brightview
Nvidia Go 7600
Windows MCE

Nailed a 8410 in 3DMark on stock settings

Plays:
UT2K4 - Completely Maxed
Doom 3 - Slightly Choppy on Ultra (w/ mem cfg'd at 400)
BattleField 2 - Completely Maxed
Quake 3 - 312 FPS Solid, Up to 516 (If you change the cgf)
Quake 4 - Comming Soon
BattleFront 2 - Comming Soon

Over all.. this thing is just a gaming monster.. But I wanna know what Kind of temps you guys are getting.. are my Temps normal? High?.. I dunno.. they are kinda freakin me out.. After a 30 min session of UT2K4 it was sitting at 172F..

I Found something funny just now.. I have RAM from the Future..
It was Made on my birthday, this year.. and it hasnt occured yet..
Its Marked September 17th 2006... :-P
/7 Happy birthday to me, Happy Birhday to me /7


*Hugs laptop*
Please dont die on me.. If you do im going to kill your WHOOOLE family

-Evil Juggalo
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post #4 of 24
7/18/06 at 8:02am
8410 on which 3dmark? 03?

Yes, these machines to run a bit hotter than I'd like. On a cold boot my machine runs at 118*F (now), so that's normal. One thing you may want to consider is to undervolt your CPU--- it can really cut the heat down, especially on load and extend your battery life without a performance hit. Google for rmclock, prime95, and undervolting and you'll get the details.
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post #5 of 24
7/18/06 at 10:41am
EvilOn my desktop machine I'm running the latest Nvidia drivers... Upon a cold boot about 38 c, and when it's run for a while 63c...(web browsing, file management). Noticed that Nvidia has set the slowdown theshold @145 c.

This is with AIR temps of about 78 degrees...
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post #6 of 24
7/18/06 at 2:47pm
after reading an article on undervolting that seems the way to go. It also seems that whoever wrote the article was very happy (and i would be too) getting thier laptop to run at about 60 - 64 degrees celcius or 140-147 degrees fahrenheit. So i assume the 160 degrees is somewhat too hot. But if 140 is good, then you shouldn't have to worry too much. You should undervolt though, undervolting (at least in the case that i read) can lower your heat by around 19% and extend your battery life by the same.
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post #7 of 24
7/18/06 at 2:51pm
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Ehh, im not really much to mess with stuff like that.. Ill just drop some AS5 on it and get a notebook cooler and should be all good..

Id do the undervolting if there was a program that would automatically do everything for you and pretty mch set it up to run its best.. but, i can live without it..

-Evil Juggalo
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post #8 of 24
7/18/06 at 3:02pm
well, it seems a lot easier than opening your laptop and putting AS5 on it. I've read a lot about the difficulty of getting to the dv8000t cpu. Use the two programs RC-Clock and prime 95, it should take a while to get all the settings perfect, but once you have rc-clock set to your best specifications, you're laptop is set for cooler longer battery life use.
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post #9 of 24
7/19/06 at 5:16am
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Im glad I dont listen to myself.. I went ahead and tried the Undervolting, and im pleased with my Results..

a 20 Min session in Half Life 2, Everything Maxed to its fullest, would get my Temps up to 172F...

After 20 minutes of fidgeting with the RM-Clock, I got it settled at
FID = 12x
VID = 1.1v
@ 100% = 1.995Ghz
Idle - 31F
Load - 140F

I love how dropping the voltage .52v dropped it 30F..

thnx DelphiGreg& BadDogNoBiscuit.. I forsee this extending the life of my lappy :-)

-Evil Juggalo
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post #10 of 24
7/19/06 at 6:25am
heh, after i read the article i found about it on google, i knew i had to do it when my dv8000t comes. It seems like the best thing i could do to it, and my lap. It should even be added to the "guide to your first laptop" thing in the guides section.
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post #11 of 24
7/19/06 at 8:26am
Undervolting is awesome, and I agree it will extend both battery and system life. The concept is simple; Intel sets voltage levels at a median level for its processors but manufacturing differences can allow some processors to safely run at different voltages. For example, my first Dell E1705 would undervolt to .975, where as my second (before returning) was around 1.05.

My hp is currently running at 1.013v. Actually had to bump it up a level last week as something weird happened so do keep an eye on things.

Still looking for a decent solution for monitoring temps and can control, though...
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post #12 of 24
7/27/06 at 4:38am
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OK.. having my first Major issue with my Laptop..

I bought 2 100gb SATA Drives and installed them today, in order to get the windows CD to be able to install ont he drives I had to DISABLE SATA support in the BIOS.. now that I got windows Installed, I cant re-enable the option.. when I do windows will start to load up the BSOD and reboot instantly..

Any Ideas?

-Evil Juggalo
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post #13 of 24
7/27/06 at 5:16am
It's late so you'll have to do some legwork, but...

You'll need to slipstream the SATA drivers into your XP installation media. Here are a couple of links :

http://unattended.msfn.org/
http://www.maximumpc.com/2005/01/how_to_slipstre.html

Windows probably has kernel drivers loaded for the (simulated) IDE drives and then freaks out when it tried to load up the SATA drives after the change.

HTH.
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post #14 of 24
7/27/06 at 6:00am
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The thing is.. This has SATA Drives installed.. I installed windows on the SATA Drives by disabling SATA Support... it said to do it when installing Legacy versions of windows.. I tried installing windows with it enabled and it woudnt even recognise, and when I disabled it, Viola..

So now I have win Installed on the SATA drive, but they are running obviously slower than they were when the option was enabled..

Care to maybe take some time and help me make that slipstream Windows cd?

-Evil Juggalo
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post #15 of 24
7/27/06 at 8:21am
Thinking about get this laptop too. For SATA this may help you.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=62357

Gary
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post #16 of 24
7/27/06 at 11:28am
what did u use to monitor temp?
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post #17 of 24
7/27/06 at 3:20pm
My guess is that disabling SATA in the BIOS makes those drives appear like IDE drives to XP. SATA and SCSI drives require special drivers or the initial boot screen of an XP install will choke saying there's no place to install.

Do you have the recovery disk for your machine? It might be possible to start with that since most OEM disks have the SATA drives slipstreamed in there.

Let me know and I'll help you all I can!
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post #18 of 24
7/27/06 at 3:42pm
I used a HP supplied OS disc and it installed smoooth as silk.
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post #19 of 24
7/27/06 at 10:13pm
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ok, got it working

I needed to get the SATA Drivers but it was an auto install exe to a Floppy, so I had to put the exe on a thumb drive and hook it up to my other comp, run it and copy files to floppy, uninstall all the Drive controllers from DevMgr, install with new drivers, reboot, and reenable SATA..

All HP gave me was a backup disc, and to my supprise, it didnt install any HP BS sofware.. so its all good now.. Im ready for QuakeCon :-)

-Evil Juggalo
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post #20 of 24
7/28/06 at 4:36am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil Juggalo
...when I disabled it, Viola..

You heard a large-sized violin? Hmmm... Microsuck must have changed the Winturds start-up sound.
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