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Setup RAID with own OS (meaning, I wont buy one) on 8890?

post #1 of 17
2/21/04 at 12:19pm
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So, guys, I can buy an 8890 with two HDD's and nos OS and set up RAID myself at/before (??? when?) the OS install. I plan to use Win 2000 Pro, but SP3 is not on the CD, would it still work?

Thanks,

D.out.
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post #2 of 17
2/21/04 at 12:29pm
It should, the raid is hardware, you just need to remove the keyboard and flip the dip switch and install from there. Make sure you have the raid driver floppy for the install so it can see it. It should come with the unit.
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post #3 of 17
2/21/04 at 12:40pm
Yeah, you'll just have to hit F6 when it prompts you just after you boot the CD...
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post #4 of 17
2/21/04 at 12:53pm
Both of the above descriptions hit the key elements in the raid installation on an 8890.

Also, hopefully you are aware that there are performance issues with HyperThreading and Windows 2000, if that particular feature of the 8890 interests you as well. There are undoubtedly a number of threads that address this in the support section.

Good luck.
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post #5 of 17
2/21/04 at 1:20pm
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No actually, no I am not aware of those problems. Can you give me the 2 sentence brief overview? I have built a P4 2.8C before and HT seems to work, as the dual processor indicator shows up and works properly when you check it in the Task Manager.
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post #6 of 17
2/21/04 at 1:24pm
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Originally Posted by ActuaryTm
Both of the above descriptions hit the key elements in the raid installation on an 8890.

Also, hopefully you are aware that there are performance issues with HyperThreading and Windows 2000, if that particular feature of the 8890 interests you as well. There are undoubtedly a number of threads that address this in the support section.

Good luck.
Shouldn't it be: "There are 01 types of people..." as the first is 2^0, which is 1, and then 2^1 is 2, so you want (from your argument) 2 types of people. Ergo, it should be "There are 01 types of people..."
I might be wrong, but it has been a long time since I have been wrong.
Numbers Geek, eh? Statistics?

D.out.
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post #7 of 17
2/21/04 at 1:41pm

One more thing

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Originally Posted by Doggonit
So, guys, I can buy an 8890 with two HDD's and nos OS and set up RAID myself at/before (??? when?) the OS install. I plan to use Win 2000 Pro, but SP3 is not on the CD, would it still work?

Thanks,

D.out.
I went the same route except I installed WinXP Pro. You can save your self some trouble by asking Sager to set the RAID 0 active. Then you will not have to jurk the keyboard and set the dip switchs as I had to do, cause I did not know better. I like worken on computers, but laptops are a different story. The less often you take'em apart the better. The screws are real small and if you drop one down inside you could be in deep dodo.

You'r going to love your 8890, they are awsome machines.

Dave
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post #8 of 17
2/21/04 at 2:33pm
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It will be my second Sager! SAGER FOR LIFE!!!
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post #9 of 17
2/21/04 at 2:38pm
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Originally Posted by Doggonit
Shouldn't it be: "There are 01 types of people..." as the first is 2^0, which is 1, and then 2^1 is 2, so you want (from your argument) 2 types of people. Ergo, it should be "There are 01 types of people..."
I might be wrong, but it has been a long time since I have been wrong.
Numbers Geek, eh? Statistics?

D.out.
It's not statistics, just binary. 10(2) = 2(10).
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post #10 of 17
2/21/04 at 3:06pm
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Originally Posted by deltawalkerl
It's not statistics, just binary. 10(2) = 2(10).
I f**king know that. I am aluding to his name and wondered if he is a statistics major or something... 2 still equal 01 in binary...
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post #11 of 17
2/21/04 at 3:19pm
No need to get violent. Ok so you knew it was binary. I know that it is also common to write binary in left-right notation, so writing 01 is correct. I was mistaken because your argument was flawed.

"as the first is 2^0, which is 1, and then 2^1 is 2"

That adds to 3...
The correct argument is, the first is 0*2^0, which is 0, and the second digit is 1*2^1, which is 2. 0 + 2 = 2.
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post #12 of 17
2/21/04 at 3:35pm
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I was hoping you knew enough junior high math to know that if the numeral is 0 in 01 then no matter what you dont add the coefficient value to the rest (2^1=2, in this case). Anyway, could someone fill me in on the Win 2000 Pro HyperThreading problem? I can't find it...
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post #13 of 17
2/21/04 at 3:44pm
Sorry that I am bringing this thread off-topic...but you just don't get it.

When the numeral is 0, you don't add it to the total because there is an implied multiplication by 0.
You have to multiply the actual value of the digit, then add it to the total. Your argument happens to work because its a binary system and the only meaningful value is 1. But in all other systems, the value of the digit must be multiplied.
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post #14 of 17
2/21/04 at 4:00pm
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Whatever man, whatever, I didn't even read your post because I am too tired after playing Battlefield: Eve of Destruction v.3 from 8pm last night until 2pm today... Must get sleeeeep, game too good, must play, must kill more VC...
Sleeeeeep

Anyway, what's the matter with HT and Win2K Pro?
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post #15 of 17
2/21/04 at 5:51pm
It dosent work with 2k. (read: it dosent work correctly) XP Pro is your best choice for full hardware support on the 8890. Maybe linux, but that takes quite a bit of time...

At anyrate... Windows calc.exe seems to think that 2(base10) = 10(base2)... Im no mathmetician but I trust my calc.exe.
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post #16 of 17
2/22/04 at 1:17am
Hrm... wonder why lots of people think you read binary right to left?
I almsot get confused sometimes, then I remember how to translate aseembly code to binary op codes, and i remember left to right.
so 10=1, and 01=2
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post #17 of 17
2/22/04 at 2:08am
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Originally Posted by Doggonit
I f**king know that. I am aluding to his name and wondered if he is a statistics major or something... 2 still equal 01 in binary...
Actually, as mentioned prior, "2" in binary is "10". Hence, "10 types of people". Binary is read right to left (ie, exponents increase as the binary number expands to the left); machine code, however, is read left to right. Binary is a number system and existed long before machine code, of course. The two are mutally exclusive, and independent.

You may also want to look up the word "actuary" which would answer your additional original query.

p.s. - if it matters (and it most likely does not), I wasn't a statistics major in school. Most in my field (that being the actuarial field) opt for pure mathematics instead, which is what I myself did. A Master's degree. But that was ages ago. I would say I am definitely much older than the mean age of the forum.
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