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post #121 of 202
2/26/04 at 5:36am
hrm, after posting my initial thought I did start thinking about that, most LCDs that I have seen are 24bit as they don't really use the 8bits of alpha. though there really isn't any reason why a laptop wouldn't use the alpha blending. After all that is about the only difference between 24bit and 32bit (they both have 8bits for each color). Of course this is all if memory serves me well, which considering the hour it may not be.

I do remember that the first 16ms 17" computer monitors used dithering to achieve the full 24bit gambit.
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post #122 of 202
2/26/04 at 7:39am
I hope the battery is a typo as well. Not much will work with a 3.7 volt battery. And 2200 mAH @ 3.7 volts is only 8.14 watt hours. That means if the machine draws only 8 watts, which is nigh on impossible (more likely around 40 watts) it would have 1 hour of run time. Using a realistic wattage, run time would be about 12 minutes, far worse than a SAGER 8890.
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post #123 of 202
2/26/04 at 9:16am
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Originally Posted by MARQUISDARQUIS
I hope the battery is a typo as well. Not much will work with a 3.7 volt battery. And 2200 mAH @ 3.7 volts is only 8.14 watt hours. That means if the machine draws only 8 watts, which is nigh on impossible (more likely around 40 watts) it would have 1 hour of run time. Using a realistic wattage, run time would be about 12 minutes, far worse than a SAGER 8890.
i'M sure it has to be because the battery life is suppose to kick ass close to 2 hours or so
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post #124 of 202
2/26/04 at 9:24am
I might call today and ask for a upgrade to a 7200 rpm hard drive, the more I think about it the more I think I should get it.
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post #125 of 202
2/26/04 at 1:01pm
Tekera/Fiction are either you concerned that with Cyberpower you only get 1gig ram at 333 instead of at 400 like with a hypersonic?
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post #126 of 202
2/26/04 at 1:15pm
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Originally Posted by Flyby
Tekera/Fiction are either you concerned that with Cyberpower you only get 1gig ram at 333 instead of at 400 like with a hypersonic?
I thought the motherboard didn't support ram at 400. you could put it in bur you would only get 333 speed. So if you pay for or upgrade to pc3200, you are paying for zero performance increase.
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post #127 of 202
2/26/04 at 1:19pm
A tidbit about the AMD 64 for laptops that falls in the you-should-know-if-you're-shopping category:

Battery life is great, but only because AMD cuts the testicles off it's processor when it's on battery power.

On AC power, the AMD 64 (called the 3400 DTR (desk top replacement), but it actually runs around 2.2 Ghz or so) kicks Pentium butt all over the place (and that's with 32-bit apps -- if you use a 64-bit OS, fuhgetaboutit), but on battery, the AMD is given a hard max of 800 Mhz, and loses in all performance categories, although it's still a decent machine.

Voodoo will soon sell a high-end battery which tricks the AMD into thinking it's on AC power, and so it runs at full speed (and for many hours), but the battery will cost about $500 and it's not ready yet.

This will probably be changed in a future AMD chip or maybe just a BIOS update, but for now, that's the fact.

As for the 333 memory vs the 400, the AMD 64 runs a lot faster with the 333. No one knows why, but the tests are conclusive. You don't want the 400 memory, at least not now -- it slows the machine down!
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post #128 of 202
2/26/04 at 1:21pm
Flyby: What is the difference in the two memory speeds in real world situations? I am not a heavy gamer just photoshop and some 3d apps. Hypersonic seem to be more expensive. I am waiting for the reviews before i decide!
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post #129 of 202
2/26/04 at 1:23pm
vicG: So 333 memory it is.
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post #130 of 202
2/26/04 at 2:37pm
Didn't know that about the 333 and the 400. I'm no computer engineer just a pilot so I just go on numbers. I just thought the higher the better. But I did see somewhere that you can trick it somehow so it won't keep it at 800mhz. Does anyone know if the speednow has been fixed in the bios? And if the motherboard doesn't support it than how would having it actually hurt if it is still only running at 333 and not the full 400? As long as you get good performance from it hooked up and still get almost 3hrs on batt, how can something like the 5680 compare, cause thats what I wanted originally. Leaning, towards Hypersonic just due to longer history and already having the Arctic Silver done is really nice. Still looking though, I called them last night for the first time and the sales rep said they would see an M11 in it until summer. PLUS did you see sis has come out with a PCI Express motherboard. Maybe right now just isn't the time to get a laptop
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post #131 of 202
2/26/04 at 3:12pm
Is Eurocom full of BS:

"fully upgradeable 17-inch widescreen desktop replacement notebook based on AMD Athlon64 FX processor" supposed to be due out in May
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post #132 of 202
2/26/04 at 3:24pm
I have my doubts on that Eurocom machine actually debuting in May, but I have high hopes for the end of Summer. There's stuff happening all over, almost every day now. M$ releases the Beta on W64, Intel accepts 64-bit and says it has such just around the corner, SIS releases a PCI Express chipset, Eurocom announces (even if quietly) an FX notebook based on Express. Stuff if happening all over. I was dissappointed with Spring IDF, I expected more announcments regarding 64 bit, Express and BTX, but I guess they only have so much ammo, have to ration it out.
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post #133 of 202
2/26/04 at 3:38pm
Ahhh and I need a notebook now! Gotta bite the bullet and just get one! IF my biz picks up i will need another notebook in the Summer!
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post #134 of 202
2/26/04 at 3:39pm
Are Eurocom a good and trustworthy vendor?
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post #135 of 202
2/26/04 at 3:47pm
Check resellerratings.

Humm, nada. no rating at all. That's strange.

Well, its been around for a number of years and there are some news releases and google links regarding the company. Check them out. Not a lot to go on though.
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post #136 of 202
2/26/04 at 5:54pm
On tests, teh a64 preforms just as well as the p4 ht
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post #137 of 202
2/26/04 at 6:00pm
Yeah, I've put a lot of research into the mitacs, I doubt cyberpower would bother putting in the money to alter the default specs of the laptop since they are purely a middleman in that they order the laptop from the distributer the moment they get an order for one (hence the 5-10 business day wait).

The battery is probably 13.7v, but 2200mah is about half that of the emachines battery, if true, the battery won't last very long, I'll be sure to actually check the battery myself since cyberpower isn't too keen on keeping their data accurate.

It wouldn't surprise me at all to see an athlon FX laptop, but the price of the fx processors would make such a laptop outside of my price range. Not to mention that the 3400+ can hold it's own against the fx-51.

I already know about the athlon 64 underclocking while on battery, I plan on taking the underclock even further to get more battery life, I can't imagine myself wanting to do a lot of cpu intensive work while on battery.
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post #138 of 202
2/26/04 at 6:04pm
hmm, did a quick check on the envy 855's battery and it's a 14.8v 6600mAh battery. . . the voltage ratings are completly off from what cyberpower claims. So I guess it's a real toss up to see what the laptop comes with.
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post #139 of 202
2/26/04 at 6:20pm
Could always buy another battery.. if you have the money. Or just live with it. Also, isn't Voodoo's ATOM pad compatable? that'd give it a lot of battery time.
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post #140 of 202
2/26/04 at 6:41pm
"It wouldn't surprise me at all to see an athlon FX laptop, but the price of the fx processors would make such a laptop outside of my price range. Not to mention that the 3400+ can hold it's own against the fx-51."

Yeh the price will be too high. I also heard (well wrt to desktop cpu) that AMD will bring out just one more straight 64s - a 3600 - with 1mb cache. I was told that current FX is not much better in performance than the current 23400, so to "make" a wider performance gap AMD were considering naffing the cache on the straight 64 down to 512! So, now or when the 3600 with 1mb of cache comes out may be the best time to buy in terms of performance/cost! Not sure if my contact was BSing me or not or if this will also appy to the mobile versions as well
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