XPS M1210 LCD thread. - Page 6

Well I got the AV package and if this is an Auo screen or not it's rubbish. Just about to email dell now to see what the deal is.

Regards,
Simon

Just a quick question. I'm seriously considering buying a nonfunctional 700m and cannibalizing the display for use in my m1210. The OP said that the swap was NOT possible, but a subsquent post said that it was, with some brightness issues. Is this possible and what is the end-result for the m1210? Is the 700m display as pretty when installed in the m1210 as it is when in the 700m?

Oh, that'd happen even with the best LCDs, though how acute s the issue is what separates a good LCD froma bad one Simon, could you please run a quick check My Computer>Properties>Hardware>Device manager>Display adapters>graphics card properties>Details>Bus Relations It should show your LCD make here

OK, I'm starting to get even more disheartened after reading SpeedwithJJ's post here. It seems that even if I get the AUO display today (the tech is coming to replace my LCD58E) it still won't match the perfection that was my 700m display.

So my question is this: Even thought the viewing angle of the m1210 AUO isn't as good as the 700m, is it better than the LCD58E? The latter washes out with anything that isn't EXACTLY dead-on center (vertically). Is the m1210 version of the AUO any more forgiving? I'm tempted to tell the tech today to not even bother replacing my screen if I really can't expect much of an improvement. Trying the 700m swap (noted above) then becomes more of a priority.

I guess I got spoiled with the 700m screen. I never realized just how perfect it was until I sold it. Too bad, I need the 3d capability of the m1210 more than I need a perfect screen. But I want to have my cake and eat it too!!!

You must have a different AUO screen then the rest of us. The viewing angles are terrible.. And better then a Sony screen? I just looked at the Sony Sz series screens to compare them..and trust me..the Sony eats this screen alive..they aren't even in the same league...

I think i'd fuss much less if this was a none xps Dell brand. But come on Dell..what are you thinking giving us this crap

"Simon, could you please run a quick check

My Computer>Properties>Hardware>Device manager>Display adapters>graphics card properties>Details>Bus Relations

It should show your LCD make here"

Hey there,

I've got a AUO3214. Totally not happy with it. And after compairing it with other peoples laptops at work I feel like I've been ripped off. Maybe it doesn't bother some people having to sit at an exact angle to the screen in order to reduce the gray light wash to only the bottom 25% of the screen but I didn't pay a shed load of money for this crap. I've emailed dell and will see what they say. If the AUO is the best screen they can give... well.. it's going back and I'll buy something I can view blacks on.

Regards,
Simon

I think even with the AUO screens, they each have some variations. The AUO on my original M1210 has white a bit yellowish while the AUO on the replacement has got whiter whites & is even brighter at max brightness.... it surely is some form of manufacturing inconsistencies shown even by the same LCD maker. Though sadly, if you compare them to the AUO I have on the 700m, both are just way off in terms of viewing angles.

Maybe like what NYCScorpio2000 said in another thread regarding the two 700m he had owned, in about 6-12 months time, we may actually see the same 700m LCD quality on the M1210!

Well I talked to the Dell replacement tech on the phone and he was on his way to my house with a Samsung LCD in tow. I told him not to bother. I'm thinking I'm just going to stick with the Toshiba and yearn for the days of my 700m... ;(

All that said, WoW looks way better at 30fps on a crappy screen than 5fps on a nice screen.

Time to explore swapping-out the display with one from a dead 700m, I guess...

Complain over it and have them send out the one with the AV package..

You'd think with everyone exchanging their screens it would be more cost effective to just put a nice screen on it in the first place..

So, here is the quick update on my issues..
To recap..

3 laptops, all bad screens..
2 LCD's 1 SEC..
No AV packages..

After going thru 5 or 6 channels, case managers, etc..

They finally just told me to return all 3 for a full credit, and reorder the AV package..

I was told the AUO screen is only shipping with the AV one at this point.

I complained, was told, "sorry, can we offer you a concession coupon" (which I gladly took) and decided to return all 3, and wait for Merom at end of month.

If I keep reading about the bad quality, I am gonna bite the bullet and go with a Lenovo, as I hear they may be coming out with a 14 inch Thinkpad with Flex Screen, which to this point, is the best I've seen.

Yep, more money, but I'd rather not deal with the bad quality at this point.

I'll keep you all informed.

AUO3214 here..its a beautiful screen..no complaints

man all of you really confuse me. i think what SPEEDwithJJ is saying about the AUO's varying has to be right. my m1210 AUO screen honestly looks great. i compared it to w/e the sony w/ the 13.3" screen and the white seemed more white on my screen. and with both units at maximum brightness, me and my friend agreed that the dell auo looked better. where the sony won was with viewing angles. the AUO screen becomes washed out easily when your not reasonablye within the 'sweet spot' of viewing. i don't plan on having people hudling arround to watch movies on my 12.1" screen so this really isn't an issue for me and seems to only provide more privacy, in conclusion, i'm still very happy wtih my AUO screen. maybe i got lucky?

Maybe I got lucky and got a LCD from a good batch I ordered from Dell India, and the laptop was buiklt in Malaysia the screen look far better (and better viewing angles too) than my old Compaq V2000, Friend's Thinkpad R51; almost at par with my Fujitsu S2110. Though it is less vibrant (and has relatively poor viewing angles) than my desktop's 19" Sony HS95 I'll perhaps post comparo pics later tonight (Early morning for the US guys)

Flashback87 & Superczar, I think what people are complaining about are the bad viewing angles (which both of you report). My screen looks great when viewed dead-on, but washes/fades-out when shifted off-center. My 700m could be viewed from almost ANY angle with no material change in appearance.

THAT is what is unacceptable here. You just seem to be more forgiving of it.

Agreed...its more the bad viewing angles..the sweet spot I dont think anyone is complaining about..other then the blacks could be a a lot blacker..Oh and light leakage.. I compared it to a Sony Sz screen and I could have cried I wanted that screen so bad heh

Should I keep my 710m?

Hello,

I noticed right away the problem with the m1210... only problem is that i havent pulled it out of the box till 3 weeks after i received it.... so now its time to start calling dell.....

I have the toshiba screen of course, and no a/v package... i guess i'm gonna push for getting a replacement screen w / av package.... we'll see what happens.

But since people are saying the 710m screen is still so much better than the best available on the m1210.... i'm thinking of just selling off the xps.....

Here are my xps screen specs: toshiba lcd58e3, and the 710m is aou2114.

I'll update when i have more info...


On a side note, I've been having a problem with another thing for a long time. I've had this problem on the following laptops: inspiron 8200, b130, 710m, and now on the xps m1210. I put on a screen saver (password protect on resume) after 8 minutes, and screen goes off after 10 min. Sometimes, when I return and move the mouse to get the screen back on, I hear the sound that says "I've returned" but the screen stays blank!!! I've realized that if I wait another 10 min for it to return to the powersave screen turn off, when I move the mouse again, it usually turns back on again. Now i'm trying to figure out if this is a problem with win xp, or a hardware problem.

On a separate note, for all of those laptops mentioned above (besides the 710m that has a physical "button" to turn off the screen when closed) when I close the screen and reopen it, the screen does this "refresh" thing which sometimes takes 20 - 30 seconds - quite annoying - and sometimes it does a bad job at it - like my taskbar quadruples in size....

I'm wondering if this is a driver issue, or a hardware issue, or specifically nvidia issue..... I haven't really seen these issues in linux, but then again, I dont really use linux very much at all (maybe the live cd's every now and then).

If anyone has any ideas what to do with all this please give a heads up :-) (dell defenitely doesnt have any idea...)

More information on screens

There seems to be 3 models of the auo screen now :

B121EW01
B121EW02
B121EW03

based on what i've read, the B121EW03 is the best so far... but nevertheless is still not as good as my auo2114 on the 710m (vs the m1210 one of auo3214)

I"m gonna attempt to get this screen and then decide if it is sufficient...

EDIT: I've done more research and it seems that the B121EW02 is actually a better screen than the 03 - you can look at the auo website http://www.auo.com/auoDEV/products.p...=82&items_id=2
for more info..

Dell is sending me a replacement system even though i passed the 21 day return mark... but they wouldn't pop on a webcam even though I said I'll pay the 100 extra bux for it....We'll see what I get...