XPS M1210 LCD thread. - Page 14

tell them you want a replacement... if you have the a/v you'll probably get auo... if you don't, you probably won't... then you can start a huge fight wiht them about it (I still haven't resolved it yet) and maybe they'll offer you a $500 gift card like they did to one guy for keeping it...

I just got my xps m1210 today. Im not sure what brand of screen it has but it does have a pretty weak screen. Bad left right and up down view angles really Its bright on bottom and darker on top you can kind of tilt the screen to a position where its acceptable.

Even with the complaint I dont think there is anything wrong with the screens Its just what they used a cheaper screen. Other then that so far its running great.

Installing Wolrds of Warcraft right now.

I wanted to edit this I found a couple issues. At times the screen would go all black on worlds of warcraft when game started. I had to shut notebook off or go into sleep for screen to come back on. It happened twice always towards start of game.

Also I found out I have the Samsung Screen and I have experienced the issue with the light flashes. Dell advised me of the same thing that I read in this forum to shut off the power sizer option. I did so and seems fine.

I dont want to return it because according to what Ive read the samsung is a more decent screen quality then what I could get so Im just gonna stick with the slight loss in battery life

=)

My colors look a bit wacky (brigher) but the clarity has increased 10 fold a bit of tweaking with the NVIDIA control panel! Thanks for the info!

Mine is working well more I use the screen less it seems an issue...but...

I installed Media Direct and if I watch a dvd or look at photos in there I get the screen flicker that I got in windows. In windows you can turn off the power saving and it fixes it however in dell media direct it doesnt.

I talked to Dell they said that I should watch my movies in windows for no flicker and that a flicker was normal on their m1210's they said it was the panel responding to the power save feature on the video card.

I dont doubt they are lying about that portion of it but sounds like a copatability issue to me. Either way they said the screen was not broken and that falls under the normal tollerance levels of a screen. The didnt offer anything at all.

I got mine on a trade for my sager and this notebook came from dell outlet. Im sure its just a redistributed notebook that probably one of you all returned ha ha. They look at screen and determine flicker is miner and redistribute.

Im not gonna fight with it, its a slight annoyance but nothing to get too bent out of shape over to be honest I notice it when watching a movie but it doesnt take away from my enjoyment of the movie it would bother me more on games when Im really concentrating and at that point Im on full power anyway.

Just sharing my experience with you all.

What level of digital vibrance did you set at?

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Got my m1210 today, and there's a few things.

I really like the look and size of it but...

I got the integrated graphics option but 8Mb video RAM?
I also thought these XPS's could handle the full 4Gb RAM, but it's the same as the Inspiron 9400/E1705 - BIOS A03 the OS can see 2.99GB, A04 the OS can now see 3.24Gb.
I thought the camera was pretty poor until I enabled it for low lighting.
I got the AU Optronics LCD and there's a lot of all over light leakage - I know LCD's can't show true black but this LCD doesn't even come close.

What do you use to get the info on the Dell? I use SISOft Saundra for most and even my crappy video card on my 710m shows 60mb Maybe its an error? That card is shared memory in yours too so it may show a variable
amount.

Hey guys,

I apologize for not reading the entire thread ( ) , but that's a breadth of information there. I got my M1210 not too long ago and PowerStrip reports a display manufacturer of "LCD58E3". From the OP, that seems to be the Toshiba, apparently the worst screen of the bunch.

Before I realized this, my experience with the screen so far has been alright. When tilted properly, it looks great, and I have no problems with it. Horizontal viewing angles are slightly more lenient, but the vertical is pretty bad. As in, move slightly upwards/downwards, and everything will be washed out. That said, I tilt the thing pretty often during normal use. That is, I'll adjust it when I'm cropped up intently typing, but when I lean back into my chair, I have to lean the screen back as well or else the colors will be off-kilter. Is that normal?

Since I just got this laptop, should I consider returning it? I'm under the 21 day full satisfaction guarantee, but I really don't want the hassle of returning this thing (well maybe I'll get the new MediaDirect this way) and getting it back like a month later due to ground shipping.

Is this worth returning for possibly an AUO screen? If I do return it, I will make sure to talk to the reps for an AUO screen, because I will not play shipping games with Dell until I get the one I'm satisfied with.

Thanks guys.

EDIT: This is a recent laptop from Dell Canada, and I do have the A/V Communications Pack.

@whuds

The video RAM amount is shown in the BIOS and I don't see a way of changing it.

I'd say return it... but truth be told the AUO is only a tiny bit better. It will probably lessen the constant retilting. Thats it. I have the 710m and the auo on that machine is great. I hear that some guy got $500 gift card for keeping it instead of returning .... maybe you should try getting that...

Dell has screwed me over on many account, and I think I am going to be returning my m1210, since my dispute against dell w/ the cc company doesn't seem to be goin too well...

Adjusting the digital vibrance slightly above the default (set mine to the middle of the 2 lowest notches) and the gamma values slightly below the default (set mine to .84) in the nvidia color corrections menu made a huge difference for me.

That really brought out the color and increased the contrast of screen significantly and really helps to compensate for the narrow vertical viewing angles.

Alot of the new laptop screens have narrow vertical viewing angles. It's actually writen in the specifications but it seems most people didn't read it before they click buy.

Well one or two things I think then

Either the video card is defective

The driver is not installed right

Or the sharing is not working right

I would try to make sure the driver is installed right, Download the driver for this and reinstall it. You probably will have to uninstall the current and then reinstall the downloaded one.

If that doesnt work call dell and get a replacment Laptop cause I bet there is something wrong with it, When I checked mine just now it said the crappy 64mb on the nose.

Maybe most people don't read it because they can't find it! I just went through dell.com's XPS M1210 site, spec's, details, and through purchasing it, and didn't see anything about limited vertical viewing angles.

Maybe you could help me find where that is stated during the buying process?

Ahh i see M1210 only has 1 screen now. In the previous models when you can choose the screens they tell you. Check out the other models where you can choose a screen.

I guess they think people are too stupid to care now with only 1 screen. Mind you just checked apple and hp and they don't tell you either not even when you have a screen choice.

Now I like my M1210 but the previous post by lancorp is correct. The only place I'm aware of where you can see viewing angle specs is in the users manual:

http://support.dell.com/support/edoc...m/PF362A03.pdf

(Under specifications)

And that's hardly something most people would dig up prior to purchase.

Yes it's in the owner's manual but I wouldn't say you shouldn't dig it up. When I was shopping for a new laptop I find out every single thing before I purchased that's why i choose the D620 alloy case.

What I am saying is that although it's harder to find then just clicking the buttons on the purchasing path it is there. And if you think about it for a bit you'd realise that's what you should do find out all the info before you buy just like you would read the whole of a contract before you sign.

So, there it is in print. Someone, at sometime, used a specification from a SINGLE model screen that was available at the time, and put it in the manual. Does that mean that the horizontal and vertical viewing angles are all the same for the three different models of LCD panels in the M1210? I find it hard to believe that AUO, Samsung, and Toshiba all have identical specifications with regards to viewing angles.

If they are going to bother to publish specs like that (on brand-specific components like the LCD) that Dell publish the specs for each of the options available. Then, as a consumer, I am armed with the proper information to make the correct choice.

Those should be the min specs. As in any components even with the same manufacturer there are variations. Anyhow the min specs should give you an idea of what to expect. The whole reason for the narrow angle, as it's been said before, is that new types of screen with the different light guide. So it's not suprising that they all have more narrow viewing angles then before.

Why are you asking for each LCD anyhow? It's not like when you order they actually let you choose who makes the LCD.

And, I think that is most of the problem. Imagine buying a big screen LCD TV at Best Buy after spending hours looking over all the display models and finally deciding on which one you want, and you get home and hook it up and are terribly disappointed by the display quality. It doesn't look anything like the display model you saw at Best Buy. It turns out the manufacturer uses three different panels in their TV's, and you were unlucky enough to get the worst looking one!

If Dell can't get enough of one model panel, then the substitutes need to have THE SAME quality (physically and visually) as the best one. How is it ok to put awesome screens in some M1710's (LG) and lousy looking ones (Samsung) in others?

Should there be a disclaimer when you are buying your computer at Dell.com that "the quality of your new DELL screen may vary from lousy to awesome, as your screen is chosen randomly"?