XPS M1210 LCD thread. - Page 16

Truthfully the screen isn't that bad. I think the default settings out of the factory are not ideal for this LCD. You can go into the GeForce advanced settings and adjust the gamma, brightness and contrast to greatly improve the picture.

Yes, the viewing angle isn't very good, pretty bad actually. However, if you're looking at the screen straight on, the picture is just fine, unless you have low contrast low light pictures on the screen. An example would be dark pictures or "low" light shadow scenes, such as the first graphics card test scene in the 3dmark05 test benchmark. The soldiers in the dark cargo bay are hard to see. The bad viewing angle inverse image is easily seen.

Mike

I concur. Doesn't seem all that bad. Yet people say its the WORST of the three. I have nothing to compare with so i just notice the bad viewing angles and horrible default settings which gave me a pounding headache. What are your GeForce settings, that you find gives the best viewing exp? NokiaKiller, please keep us updated on your status, and monitor. Thanks!

I just delivered a M1210 with a Toshiba screen today to a customer, and it looked better than my AUO. Both are pretty good, just this Toshiba had nice, pure whites and a crisp, sharp display. Viewing angles were same as all the others...

I don't know why everybody is complaining about viewing angles. My sony t xbrite lcd only has slightly better viewing angles. If I look at a low contrast picture on the xbrite lcd, I can still notice that the top half screen is slightly darker than the bottom half screen.

The auo screen is only slightly worse than the xbrite in terms of viewing angles. What's really better about the xbrite is that is not as reflective and the blacks are blacker.

was it the lcd58e3? How did you know it was the toshiba? Maybe this is a diff model toshiba.

I've only heard of one toshiba model in the M1210. Am I mistaken?

Theres only one response to that: 700m/710m

I've also only heard of one model. But you claim that your client had the toshiba and the screen was very good... thats contrary to all reports here on this thread. So either you are mistaken, or there is a different model toshiba now being used.

It definitely wasn't AUO and it wasn't Samsung. It had the A/V comm pack. I looked in device manager to check the display model ID, and I remember it read LCD58E.

I didn't do a ton of comparisons in dark rooms and at odd angles, but it sure looked nice. Nothing like what i've seen. My own M1210 was a Toshiba and looked terrible. Dell replaced it with an AUO.

Maybe there are a batch of really bad Toshiba displays out there!

We're all spoilt by the 700m/710m screens....

Who's to say your Sony XBRITE is the creme de la creme of LCD's? I was at the Sony Store in San Diego a while back, and looked at the LCD's on some of their notebooks--lousy viewing angles too. I certainly wouldn't use them as a point of comparison. If anything, you should feel worse than us for paying top dollar for a notebook PC with a sub-par screen. Apparently the industry has embraced some crazy new technology. Give 'em a year of returns and dissatisfied consumer complaints, and they'll go back to the old standard (clear, bright, good viewing angles) technology!

I believe this is a case of inconsistent manufacturing. Still remember I had mentioned a few months ago about seeing different kinds of white on AUO screens. At one time, I did noticed that one of the AUO screens had yellowish white while the other AUO had pinkish white. And yes, I read that both are the same model from the back of the LCD & tried both on the same system with the afore mentioned results......

Yeah, I agree.

Had I had the time before delivery, I would have swapped screens and put the Toshiba on mine!!!

Even though the LCD makers are to blame for this issue, we as consumers have to take part of the blame as well because all of us are always demanding for better stuff for lower prices..... There have to be some way to cut costs & ensure that they meet our price expectations (lower price for better technology).... so unfortunately, we find that the screens are currently being manufactured in a "poorer" quality/standard.... And is it a coincidence that laptops are getting cheaper & cheaper everyday (better technology, yet lower prices)???

I'm not so sure that its just inconsistent manufacturing that is the problem. For example - I bought my 710m after I saw my friends machine. Then I saw another friends machine. Both had an amazing screen, thus I decided it was the machine to get. When I got mine, the screen was amazing as expected. Now i'm sure there are slight differences between them (for example I have some light leakage near the top of mine, and sometimes it does this random flash/blink), but overall I got what I expected - a really nice screen.

When it comes to the m1210 they are all really bad screens. However, there are some that are bearable = auo and some that are unbearable = the toshiba. But truth is, none of them are good at all. So interestingly enough, when it's so bad, slight manufacturing differences are significant.

I personally would be willing to pay an extra couple hundred buks for a good screen. I value my eyes more than a little cash, and in the long run I will prob spend more $ neways on my health if I ruin it with a bad screen...

Even so, I paid $840 for my 710m. I paid 1026 for my m1210. They wouldn't replace the screen so I bought a new machine w/ av and got the auo. I'm not impressed. Dell was supposed to apply my 30% off coupon to the second machine. They didn't so now I"m returning it. I guess I'll wait until there is a machine as nice as the m1210 with an appropriately nice screen.

My point is, the m1210 lcd may not be as good as the 700m, but its comparable to other laptops in its class.

The sony xbrite is generally considered one of the better lcd's out there and I don't think the m1210 lcd (at least the auo) is all that bad when compared to one. And its certainly way better than the lcd on my thinkpad t40.

From reading this thread, you would think the lcd on the m1210 is one of the worst around, and I don't think thats the case.

got the screen replaced today.
and i have to say that the AUO screen i way better than the LCD58E.

the coulors are better and the weiving angle is a little bit better.

I took the m1210 with me to my local computer store today
and compared the screen with some other laptops with *glossy* screens and,
the m1210 screen is better than the screens on HP and Thoshiba laptops they have there.

so the m1210 screen is not the "worst around".

BTW: to the ppl suggesting that i uce the Nvidia image adjusting tool,
I have the poor man's m1210 with the intel graphics,
(it works for my usage)

apple doesn't seem immune to lcd complaints either, uneven backlighting, crappy viewing angles. Hmm sounds strangely familiar.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=248380

so i guess it is the whole industry going down the drain...

AT least you don't get this: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=253398

with a dell.