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post #21 of 39
7/25/06 at 10:21pm
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Originally Posted by E1505
I also think the sxga+ tl screen is one of the best screens I've ever had. I know what you mean by the line thing, but I have to look at it really really closely to really see it since its not like I look at the screen that close anyways. As for the viewing angles, theyre really not that bad, atleast for mine as I can tilt it quite a bit and still see clearly. It's not like you should be looking at the screen at that steep of an angle anyways. But I do agree, there is a particular "sweet spot" for the screen. Let us know how well that anti-glare skin works though, I plan to be using using my laptop outdoors more and I might have to go for something like that.
will do. I am having second thoughts about keeping it now. i.e. not returning it and getting a D820. I am thinking I will work with this for a while, and see how it goes. Later on, I figure I can think about doing something such as this. Figure I can pick up a nice 1920x1200 panel. Would just have to figure out how to configure the video card to detect and use the full resolution, perhaps it does it automatically? BTW the keyboard on this E1505 is terrific. I prefer the home and delete keys on the bottom right and the pgup and pgdown keys at the right side, like it was on my 2650 - but I guess I can get used to this. The tactile touch and response of the keyboard is excellent.
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post #22 of 39
7/26/06 at 7:53pm
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well, last night I checked out a friend's Dell 8600 15.4" w/ WUXGA+ display. And, I could see the gaps between pixels that formed the "lines", when I looked close. So I think I will just keep this laptop, and maybe upgrade it down the road. I will just not look so closely at the screen. :P
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post #23 of 39
8/1/06 at 3:54pm
I must be one of the lucky ones, because my WSXGA+ screen is great. Also, I'm not sure what a good viewing angle is, but I can still see my screen through an arc of about 160deg. this is much better than any other lcd I have owned. Most have faded out at about 120deg or so. As stated many times the glare from the glossy screen can be a little distracting but is easily dealt with because the panel brightness is pretty good.
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post #24 of 39
8/1/06 at 4:29pm
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Originally Posted by acruxksa
I must be one of the lucky ones, because my WSXGA+ screen is great. Also, I'm not sure what a good viewing angle is, but I can still see my screen through an arc of about 160deg. this is much better than any other lcd I have owned. Most have faded out at about 120deg or so. As stated many times the glare from the glossy screen can be a little distracting but is easily dealt with because the panel brightness is pretty good.

please check your LCD type? go to Device Manager, double-click the Display Adapter, click Details tab, choose "Bus Relations" from the dropdown and look for the 3 capital letters after DISPLAY\\

thx
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post #25 of 39
8/1/06 at 4:35pm
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btw we have an E1505 WXGA (1280x800) here at the office - I checked out the display. View angle issue is not as bad, and more importantly it DOES NOT exhibit the gaps between the pixels I speak of here. The color is seamless. It is a SEC model LCD. Next thing I have to check is a WSXGA display..
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post #26 of 39
8/1/06 at 10:26pm
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Originally Posted by srika
please check your LCD type? go to Device Manager, double-click the Display Adapter, click Details tab, choose "Bus Relations" from the dropdown and look for the 3 capital letters after DISPLAY\\

thx

DISPLAY\\Default_Monitor\\5&3268f&280&0&10000003&01&00

There are 3 more entries that are similar, just slightly different numbers. No capital letters anywhere.
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post #27 of 39
8/2/06 at 12:28am
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hmmm... try Powerstrip? thx
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post #28 of 39
8/2/06 at 12:47am
My screen is a WSXGA+ and I had to use Knoppix to identify the maker. It's an LG, by the way. The only thing that I don't like about it is the light leakage about half an inch on the bottom. I sent it back to DELL to have it replaced. DELL returned it back to be untouched saying i's within DELL's specifications.
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post #29 of 39
8/2/06 at 1:19am
I just installed/uninstalled powerstrip to check and it just shows my LCD panel as a "Microsoft Default" monitor. I could probably boot a linux liveCD to find out exactly what it is, but I'm betting it's an LG like hwjbl says. It has some light leakage, but it is only really apparent with the brightness on full in a really dark room with a black background. Even then it is only minor.
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post #30 of 39
8/2/06 at 10:25pm
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oic. ok well, thanks for your efforts.
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post #31 of 39
8/2/06 at 10:54pm
It's weird, this thread scares me because my ordered laptop is the "upgraded" top of the line WSXGA+ TL display as well...the main reason I wanted it is because the "details" on their site showed the viewing angle as much better and other stats as well (smaller dot pitch). The tiny fonts/text is somewhat worrisome by itself, but if the overall image quality is poor, I will be sad and I suppose may need to try to exchange/repair it.

Two things I have learned by browsing Dell forums for the last couple of years is:

1) They are the best bang for the buck with hot deals/coupons etc (for example, how can you beat this?!?! Similarly specced out laptops online and at Fry's were $1,000-1,500)

T2300E 2x1.66 GHz processor with 2x1Mb L2 cache (Core Duo "Yonah")
15.4" UltraSharp widescreen XGA display with TrueLife
1 Gb shared dual channel DDR2 RAM
128 Mb ATI Mobility Radeon X1300
120 Gb 5400 rpm SATA hard drive
8x DVD burner with double layer capability
Intel PRO/3945 wireless
53 WHr battery

$1,207 - $478 discount - $45 coupon - $13.68 DPA discount - $20.52 FC = $649 + tax.

2) Their LCDs (even notebooks) are hit or miss. With the variety of panels, revisions, and perhaps lack of quality control, some bad ones do crop up. Hopefully the silent majority (90%+) are very content with their displays and only some of the ones who get a particularly bad one post and complain about them...also keep in mind that Dell likely sells far more than almost any other brand.
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post #32 of 39
8/3/06 at 3:08pm
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OK. since there seems to be a lot of talk about Dell E1505 display around here, I am posting a video showing the "sweet spot"... this starts with a blank white screen. You can, literally, see a "spot". Then I bring up Firefox, showing this thread. What do you think? Am I nit-picking? Or making a valid complaint?

"sweet spot" - 15mb AVI

I have the Samsung (SEC) WSXGA+ Truelife screen (1680x1050)
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post #33 of 39
8/3/06 at 3:53pm
Interesting video thank you. But call me crazy, what if you turn off the ambient light behind you. For instance, I noticed bright flourecent ceiling lights. From what I am learning, although the trend is going towards glossy screens (has many advantages, like vibrant colors and great DVD/video viewing), a disadvantage is that it's hampered by bright lighting (or sunlight) particularly behind the user.
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post #34 of 39
8/3/06 at 4:16pm
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Originally Posted by Vallybally
Interesting video thank you. But call me crazy, what if you turn off the ambient light behind you. For instance, I noticed bright flourecent ceiling lights. From what I am learning, although the trend is going towards glossy screens (has many advantages, like vibrant colors and great DVD/video viewing), a disadvantage is that it's hampered by bright lighting (or sunlight) particularly behind the user.
Can't really turn off the lights at work. During the day at least, lol. This same sweet spot is seen in dark viewing conditions too - but yes you probably see more light from the screen. But how does that help anything? What am I supposed to do, turn off all lights for optimal viewing? :P
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post #35 of 39
8/3/06 at 5:01pm
I read your whole thread, are you getting it exchanged or repaired? Believe me, I am worried about this as well with mine ordered. I hate the idea of hit or miss screens and playing return games, but if that's what it takes to get a $700 laptop that most vendors charge closer to $1,200 I think it's definately worth it count me in.

It's just suprising to me that the quality control isn't better both at the LCD manufacturing sites and Dell themselves. But then again if let's say 20% of the screens are subpar but only 1% complain and demand a fix, maybe it makes sense... still LCD technology is over 10 years old, come on people!
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post #36 of 39
8/3/06 at 6:23pm
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Originally Posted by Vallybally
I read your whole thread, are you getting it exchanged or repaired? Believe me, I am worried about this as well with mine ordered. I hate the idea of hit or miss screens and playing return games, but if that's what it takes to get a $700 laptop that most vendors charge closer to $1,200 I think it's definately worth it count me in. It's just suprising to me that the quality control isn't better both at the LCD manufacturing sites and Dell themselves. But then again if let's say 20% of the screens are subpar but only 1% complain and demand a fix, maybe it makes sense... still LCD technology is over 10 years old, come on people!
yes, Dell is sending me a new one, identical specs. It should be here soon, I have my fingers crossed. It did take some amount of pushing to get them to send me one, I should add... I called tech support initially because I knew customer service would probably make me talk to them before doing anything, as far as getting it replaced was concerned. The tech walked me through rebooting it and running the diags on it - they all passed. Of course this had nothing to do with the issue at hand - but I digress. They have operating procedures, right - so I thought to myself. Your last statement is dead on, technology is supposed to be getting better - while at the same time getting cheaper!!! And it IS happening - everywhere else except for (certain) Dell laptop LCD's, apparently. :<
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post #37 of 39
11/11/06 at 5:02am
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Originally Posted by srika
yes, Dell is sending me a new one, identical specs. It should be here soon, I have my fingers crossed. It did take some amount of pushing to get them to send me one, I should add... I called tech support initially because I knew customer service would probably make me talk to them before doing anything, as far as getting it replaced was concerned. The tech walked me through rebooting it and running the diags on it - they all passed. Of course this had nothing to do with the issue at hand - but I digress. They have operating procedures, right - so I thought to myself.

Your last statement is dead on, technology is supposed to be getting better - while at the same time getting cheaper!!! And it IS happening - everywhere else except for (certain) Dell laptop LCD's, apparently. :<

So, i am curious (because i am sort of having the same problem), what happened?
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post #38 of 39
11/11/06 at 1:46pm
i dont really see any of the issues ur talking about, i have the exact same setup and i can view my screen from directly beside it.. or anywhere i sit it never blacks out... i dont do video editing but i play videogames and have never noticed the lines u speak of... maybe its a bad screen?
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post #39 of 39
11/14/06 at 1:32pm
Hey, I was wondering if you can post a snapshot with the forums open and a snapshot (and/or picture) of the desktop icons and such. I'm really interested in picking up an i1505, but my only hesitation is the screen size. Do you guys think the 1680 x 1050 res is too small? Or will 1280 x 800 be too big? I'm open to all opinions (hopefully snapshots too : )

And as for the gaps? I have no clue what's going on. I've worked on my cousin's 1705/9400 with non TL at 1440 x 900 res and my only complain is the dreaded light leakage on the bottum of the screen.
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