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Is this system any good?

post #1 of 18
7/25/06 at 9:10pm
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I'll be using it for work and games, especially World of Warcraft.

Processor: AMD Turion 64 Mobile processor ML-37 with PowerNow! technology
Processor Speed: 2.0GHz
Processor Cache: 1MB L2 Cache
Bus Speed: Up to 1600MHz System Bus
Memory: 1024MB 333MHz DDR System Memory (2Dimm), Max Supported 2048MB
Accessible Memory Slots: 2
Video Graphics: ATI RADON XPRESS 200M IGP with 128MB DDR (dedicated)
Hard Drive: 80GB (5400RPM) Hard Drive
Multimedia Drive: LightScribe 8X DVD±RW with Double Layer Support
Display: 15.4" WXGA High-Definition BrightView Widescreen (1280 x 800) Display
Network Card: Integrated 10/100 BASE-T Ethernet LAN (RJ-45) Connector
Wireless Option: 54g Integrated 802.11b/g wireless LAN with 125HSM/SpeedBooster support
Digital Media: 6-in-1 integrated Digital Media Reader for Secure Digital cards, MultiMediaCard, Memory Stick, Memory Stick Pro SmartMedia cards or xD Picture cards
Fax/Modem: High Speed 56k Modem
Audio: Altec Lancing
Keyboard: 101-Key Compatible and 2 Quick Launch Buttons- HP Quick Play (o) Music and DVD
Pointing Device: Touch Pad with Dedicated Vertical Scroll Up/Down Pad
External Ports: 3-Universal Serial Bus (USB) 2.0, 1-IEEE 1394 FireWire (4-pin), 1 Notebook Expansion Port 2, 1-Consumer IR (Remote Receiver), 1-headphone-out w/S/PDIF Digital Audio, 1-microphone-in, 1-VGA (15-pin), 1-TV-Out (S-video), 1-RJ-11 (modem), 1-RJ-45 (LAN)
Communications: Integrated 10/100Base-T Ethernet LAN (RJ-45 connector), high speed 56K modem
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post #2 of 18
7/25/06 at 9:15pm
It might be able to play Wow, but you can get a better system for the money. check out the thread in my signature for suggestions!
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post #3 of 18
7/25/06 at 9:25pm
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Yeah I saw your suggestions earlier. Good advice and I was using it when I was looking at syatems. This one I am considering is only $800. I really like HP also. You couldn't ever get me to consider a Dell. Too many horror stories with those idiots. So on that system, you see anything I should be worried about?
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post #4 of 18
7/25/06 at 9:35pm
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Originally Posted by Bret
Yeah I saw your suggestions earlier. Good advice and I was using it when I was looking at syatems. This one I am considering is only $800. I really like HP also. You couldn't ever get me to consider a Dell. Too many horror stories with those idiots. So on that system, you see anything I should be worried about?


i'll 100% counter you. I've had 2 Dell desktops, both flawless, and I currently have an Axim X50v. My Bluetooth keyboard broke, called them up, 3 days later there was a fresh one @ my door. HP on the other hand was hell. I called them once, spent HOURS on hold / given the royal run-around until one person actually denied they made a product with the given model number....now thats STUPID. Dell FTW!

that said, I see an Acer in your future possibly....not sure
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post #5 of 18
7/25/06 at 9:39pm
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To each his own. I know too many high priced tech support people for a major worldwife company who said never get a Dell. So call it a draw but you say Acer might be worth looking at?
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post #6 of 18
7/25/06 at 9:39pm
dell is a good company and completecare rules. i dont know about hp warrenty because i never had to use it for my tablet but their online live chat support is pretty crappy. took the guy an hour to find out that he gave me a wrong driver.
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post #7 of 18
7/25/06 at 9:45pm
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TY fopr the advice but I said, too many horror stories on the Dell people so not a chance I'm buying from them. HP probably, possibly an Acer if I can find one with the sepcs I need.
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post #8 of 18
7/25/06 at 10:22pm
the horror stories of dell are from yester-year i think....in recent memory they have been very good (less the crappy models exploding). do some research on the company ibuypower.com ....not the greatest crap you're gonna find i bet, but i still went through with the order....came out quite happy...
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post #9 of 18
7/25/06 at 10:47pm
AND THE DEBATE BEGINS.

for a little more, you can get a gateway at bestbuy with a turion, 1GB, 6100.
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post #10 of 18
7/25/06 at 11:12pm
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Nah no debate, just friendly opinions and sicusions. Unless somebody sees something terribly bad about the system I mentioned I think I'll get it. Could someone explain the 1600 MHz bus system. Is that adequate?
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post #11 of 18
7/26/06 at 7:07pm
the video card is a dog, other then that... doesnt look bad
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post #12 of 18
7/26/06 at 7:40pm
It looks good to me. Everyone says the graphics card is bad, but to run WoW it should be fine. FYI I use an HP zv6000 with the Athlon 64 and a 200M. It runs most games fine, but let me just warn you: it doesn't support OpenGL. I know the drivers and such say it does, but in reality it can't run appliations that require OpenGL. I hope that helps.
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post #13 of 18
7/26/06 at 8:24pm
thats you own opinion maybe you never had a good graphics card so you dont know how the game is suppose to be. i seen people playing oblivion at 3fps and said it was fine. my friend has a compac with a 200M and it cant even handle cs source
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post #14 of 18
7/26/06 at 9:10pm
3fps? man, i think i would go insane at those sorts of speeds. actually, i think i did go insane at those speeds. i think it was the original civilization... tried to run it in a command prompt setting, where it needed real dos to run, and it was way too slow. but yeah, one good thing is, if you never see the best graphics, you'll never really know what you're missing. i used to run CS at about 30fps, and that was fine. who needs constant 80fps? also, can the monitor even show anything above its max refresh rate? most lcd's are sub-85hz, so doesnt that mean they can only show a maximum possible 85fps?
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post #15 of 18
7/26/06 at 9:18pm
i need atleast 60fps in css now because i only pub. but when i was playing cal-m you need atleast 75+ or its pretty upsetting. lot of people think 30fps in games its fine and its true. but you would enjoy playing much more if it was faster.

and im not joking about 3 fps. he has a 6600gt and has his graphics turned up on 1280*1024 pretty sad.

and for fps above the refresh rate you can see a difference. like in source if you monitor only have 60hz refresh and you have 100fps in the game it would look run much more smoother than if you only had 60fps
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post #16 of 18
7/27/06 at 1:15am
I haven't tried to run anything really graphics intensive like Oblivion. I really only play Guild Wars and a few RTS games like Empire at War. On these games, the 200M (with dedicated graphics) can run at max settings perfectly fine. Judging by the screenshots, WoW is less graphically intensive than Guild Wars, so I say it would be fine for that application, but I haven't ever played that game, so I wouldn't know for sure.

But I am well aware it has its limits and is not the best out there. Like I said, it can't handle OpenGL games. At all. If the game is DirectX based, the 200M will run most games fine, and other games decently. But if the game requires OpenGL, you won't get anything more than 1 fps. Guaranteed.
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post #17 of 18
7/27/06 at 1:32am
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Originally Posted by aintz
and im not joking about 3 fps. he has a 6600gt and has his graphics turned up on 1280*1024 pretty sad.

I forget what I was getting when I tried playing HL2 on my 700m when I only had 512MB of RAM, but I think it was more than 3fps. That was a major waste of time. It took so long ton install, then was just slow. Heh.
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post #18 of 18
7/27/06 at 1:34am
Just FYI for everyone. I ran the Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor, and the Xpress 200M with dedicated 128 MB memory can run every part of Windows Vista, including Windows Aero.
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