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Coaxial input guide for the m9700

post #1 of 83
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Unfortunately when you recieve the m9700 the TV-Tuner can become a disappointment, but I was able to fix the problem with this solution.

Go to Radioshack and purchase this adapter:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...tId=2103401&cp

The adapter is in the Video input drawers, just ask for where that is if you are not acquainted. (I doubt if you showed the person behind the counter the coaxial input that they would know what would work. Just trust me that this has so far been the only solution I have found.)

Now you need to have a ready coaxial cable lying around without a regular coaxial connector on one end (for the wall outlet) and a side without a connector. If there is a connector on both ends try seeing if you can take it off by unscrewing it. If not, then you will probably have to go to a place that cuts coaxial wire. Usually a local electrical supply store will carry it. Go to them and ask for RG6 coaxial cable. I recommend getting only about 1' of wire (for traveling purposes) with a cable extender and one longer wire for when you are at home, unless your computer is for sitting on a desk only, then get whatever amount of wire you need.

Now if you are not very cable savy, then when you go to the electrical supply store that has the coaxial cable just ask them if they could put the adapter on for you and ask for a connector for a regular coaxial input (the kind that you screw in)

The big end of the adapter fits snuggly onto the wire. Do not let the wire go past the end of the adapter or it will not fit correctly. Now that you have the adapter on the cable, now screw the other end into the wall and just push the smaller end of the adapter right onto the coaxial input on the TV-Tuner. **Important** Make sure that the wire inside of the adapter is directly in the middle and that you are putting the adapter on the tv-tuner straight. Otherwise the wire will bend or even snap off and you will have to go get it re-cut.

Hope this has helped everyone!

EDIT: DVRMSToolbox is a nifty little program that works wonders with recorded tv shows. Download it and install it.

http://thegreenbutton.com/files/15/d...try112402.aspx

This program is good for converting DVR-MS to mpeg or AVI which are alot smaller files. (About 100-800mb depending on size) It also takes out about 95% of the commercials in the recorded tv show.
post #2 of 83
I think this post might be sticky-worthy. What do you guys think?
post #3 of 83
Oh yeah - another question related to this coax input. Has anyone found the technical name for this particular input? The adapter on RadioShack doesn't seem to specify this (and seems to actually be designed for something completely unrelated - though at least it works!).

Just thinking it would be nice for googling to see if anything less DIY-ish is out there (don't get me wrong, I'm all for DIY).
post #4 of 83
Nevermind, I don't want to give advice before I confirm on my own. Kazkek has his and says the standard cables don't work, so I'll defer to him since he's received his m9700...
post #5 of 83
Thread Starter 
All of the Coaxial cables and all of the composite video cables will not fit.

The coaxial cables will be to big and not fit into the chassis plus there are threads on them.

The composite cables have the composite connection in it (the big wire) and that is also to big because I tried converting a composite cable into a composite shell with a coaxial wire in the middle and it was still to big.

If you take the PAL (coaxial input for europe and such) that is also too big. It is a weird connection.
post #6 of 83
Wow, this TV tuner manufacturer must be full of morons - or maybe its a connection based off a foreign standard or something common outside the US?
post #7 of 83
Quote:
Originally Posted by wilco
Wow, this TV tuner manufacturer must be full of morons - or maybe its a connection based off a foreign standard or something common outside the US?

It appears to be a new standard for home theater video, but nobody seems to know about it or carry the proper cables yet...
post #8 of 83
If someome can get me a good close up/macro photo of the connector I can figure out which type it is. It sounds like it might be an MCX connector. They are used on some GPS antennas
post #9 of 83
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Originally Posted by n2mdk
If someome can get me a good close up/macro photo of the connector I can figure out which type it is. It sounds like it might be an MCX connector. They are used on some GPS antennas

Is BNC a type of connector? It seems to be the closest I've seen. It's got the smaller outer friction sleeve for non threaded connections, and has a small pin in the middle.

Hopefully someone can post a picture.

This is the best I can do... It's the second from the left connection, smooth outer sleeve, no threads.



You can see it here (second from the left connection on the back) but it's not a close up...



You can see it here too...

post #10 of 83
Thread Starter 
You can base the size of it off the s-video connection. Take an S-video cord and a coaxial and compare the size from the photo
post #11 of 83
Thread Starter 
Ok. So I called Alienware technical support. The first person I talked to couldnt find it in there database.

So I was referred to a specialist. He went and got an m9700. Checked out the back of the post and noticed that it is indeed smaller than the regular coaxial even though there database says it is standard coaxial connection. He then went away for a little bit, and said that he is sending a notice to the engineering department to find if there is a special adapter from regular coaxial to mini.

I believe it is Mini-UHF adapter.

It is going to be posted on the knowledge base in about 3 days. If not he said to call back. Not bad only 20 minutes and really good help!
post #12 of 83
That's great news!

Though it sounds like this forum may know more than AW engineering - at least now we have some help on the inside . . .
post #13 of 83
Thread Starter 
Lol ya I guess we do know a little more. Of course you have an Engineering student who found the parts for a small DIY adapter. Lol

(Im the Engineering student btw)

Atleast they are looking into it. And hell maybe they will start shipping the m9700 with the little adapter. And we can get it shipped to us for free!

I would like that.
post #14 of 83
ok, so here is a dumb question - while we are on the topic of the TV tuner...

So, I am a loser and didn't get the tuner - but I was wondering, does the s-cable in work without the tuner? I haven't tried it yet, but I figured someone would know...

I would really love to get a tuner for mine - I am seriously thinking about calling AW and seeing if they would sell me one... I know I would be on my own for drivers however...
post #15 of 83
Definitely not a UHF mini the center conductor hole is way too small and all uhf connectors are threaded.
I am having a very hard time finding out what this actually is, it looks too large to be an MCX and too small to take a push on Type F.
I'm starting to think it might be proprietary.
I'm going to continue my research, I love a good challenge
post #16 of 83
Check out BNC connectors, it's the only one I've seen that even comes close...

I also emailed some of the development people in the mobile department over this a while ago, hopefully they are addressing this and will come up with some sort of adapter...
post #17 of 83
well the adapter is definitely proprietary based on my research. The company that makes these tv tuners is lifeview.com. When i tried to contact their tech support, they said they can't help us because the tv tuner was made for OEM only and not consumers....which is a BS reason.

if you look at:

http://www.lifeview.com.tw/html/prod...uo_cardbus.htm

you'll notice it has the same connector as the m9700 (infact two) but they ship 4 adapters with the card...2 for NTSC and 2 for PAL..analog and digital....

in conclusion...AW messed up by not providing us with them. my question is..how does this get overlooked...you mean to tell me in the whole process of testing..they NEVER once tested to see if the TV tuner worked?..i don't get it

btw...i asked around mtu.edu and nobody had any clue...
post #18 of 83
I called tech support about the connector and they said I needed a digital coaxial adapter. I know thats not right because thats what I use for my DVD player's audio. Anyone make any progress apart from these instructions?
post #19 of 83
Nothing yet, but the product manager of the mobile line is dealing with it personally. As soon as I hear anything substantial, I'll report it here.

Kazkek has also contacted someone about this so hopefully we'll get a solution soon.
post #20 of 83
Do we know the specific model of the tuner? If we could find one of their non-OEM products that used the same connector, I'll bet wee could call their tech support and lie about having a non-OEM product and try to order an adapter (couldn't be more than a couple bucks + shipping). Just some thoughts . . .
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