Sound Problem: e1705

I would use a stream capture utility. It's actually much better than recording the audio signal itself. You'll avoid the hassle and sound degredation of re-compressing the audio, and it won't have gaps if you have and buffer underruns. I do wonder why they chose to not include stereomix on the recording side, though. It is needed at times.

For mp3 I use StationRipper. For Windows media and Realmedia i use StreamDown.

I use NG Wave for that. Since I have to edit as well, NG Wave fills the bill.

http://www.ngwave.com/

I'm 90% sure it can be done, but I'm not sure how. There's loads of options for Sigmatel soundcards in the registry for things like this, but I haven't been able to find any guides. I was able to add "Input Monitor" to the playback mixer with some fiddling.

For this putpose, I still think you're best off directly capturing the stream. It will give you the best quality and the smallest file size. I should also mention you can use StreamRipper, though i think that is what StationRipper is based on. I recommend the version that runs as a Winamp plugin.

Good luck!

I would like to know this as well. I record using Sony Soundforge, but without the StereoMixer I cannot capture any audio.

Can anyone find out if it's even possible with the Sigmatel driver, or maybe the Creative driver?

Thx,
-Mac

No, it is for recording streams. What live stream are you trying to record? I might be able to help you get it setup if you're having problems.

Recording the stream is a far better option than recording the audio, trust me.

Ok I tried NGWave and it couldn't record sound without the StereoMixer (please correct me if I'm using it improperly).

I snooped around in the registry, and I saw someone post b4 that they was able to get an option to appear in the sound options that previously wasn' there?

First I'd like to ask is the places I took SS's of where u opened the option, or if it wasn't, can someone tell me what these are for and if they are of any use to us?

Also the third Screenshot, can someone tell me if that is where Creative installs the SoundBlaster option? (Does someone who has the SoundBlaster have stuff in that key)

-Mac

OK here's what I did...

• I double-clicked your link and it started playing in Winamp.
• By double-clicking the scrolling title within winamp, i can see that winamp is playing the station 'http://88.191.12.106' and that it is a 192 kbps mp3 stream
• Then I opened the free version of StationRipper and entered 'http://88.191.12.106' in the address bar at the bottom and clicked 'Add'.

StationRipper will immediately start recording the stream and won't stop until you tell it to stop. However, because this station is a single stream with no song titles it will never create seperate titled and tagged .mp3 files for you, and it will leave your .mp3 in the incomplete folder because it thinks it only has a partial file. On my system, the file was located here: C:\\Program Files\\Ratajik Software\\StationRipper\\Work\\H o t M i x R a d i o - HOT MIX Radio House Dance & DJs - Live from Paris - http---www.hotmixradio.fr\\incomplete If this wasn't a mix station you could solve this problem by telling StationRipper this is a single stream. You would right-click the stream and select "file-splitting and single stream" and check the appropriate box. There are some options to split the file every time it detects silence between tracks. Unfortunately this won't work for a continuous dance stream of music that never, or rarely, has a moment of silence. But now you'll have the actual mp3 stream they broadcast, not a lower quality analog recorded and recompressed version that passed through a crappy Dell soundcard. Enjoy! EDIT: You should also enable "Use Relay Port" in the advanced options so you can listen to the stream. StationRipper will re-broadcast the station locally (ie http://localhost:10069) so you can listen with Winamp or something else without having 2 connections to the station.

Good find Veazer.

My apologies for suggesting NG Wave. I'm using it to edit but find now that Dell screwed us with the Sigmatel drivers. No PC sound and other supported input sources found on just about all other laptops, except, some new Dells. Dell's warped sense of DRM, WTF?

I guess we buy USB junk till someone comes out with a mini slot card?

Could you take a look at my screenshots and tell me if I was in the right part of the registry? If not where were u when u opened that option? I think ur onto something and wish to pursue it farther lol.

-Mac

I don't think it's a DRM thing, i think they just get tired of support calls by people who don't understand the recording mixer and they wanted to keep the recording as simple as possible I've seen people convinced that their mic port is broken just because someone changed the recording mixer to something other than mic. Still, I agree it should be available.

If you like NG Wave you might try Kristal combined with ASIO4All drivers. I use the ASIO4All drives with soundforge and prefer them over directsound. With a little tweaking and smaller buffers I was able to get the latency under 2ms which is neglible. ASIO4All drivers bypass the windows mixer which is known to do some 'bit-mangling'.


I don't think it's located there, I think it is in the area below. It was a while ago that I found this info and I haven't messed with it for awhile. Be careful, and let me know if you ever find any registry guides for sigmatel stuff.

I think the best bet is to find another laptop using this sigmatel chipset (maybe any) that does have stereomix in the mixer and taking a close look at the registry values.

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\SYSTEM\\CurrentControlSet\\Control\\Class\\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\\0006\\Settings\\filter\\Rear]
"UniqueId"=hex:00
"CaptureConverter"=hex:03
"RenderConverter"=hex:02
"SpdifMaster"=hex:02
"SpdifOutConverter"=hex:05
"EnableCompositeMuxAndAdcCtrl"=hex:00
"Associations"=hex:04,01,02
"DisableSPDIFControl"=hex:00
"SpdifOutCtrl"=hex:00
"LegacyIoctlHere"=hex:01
"EnabledPcmRenderBitsAndRates"=dword:fffffffe
"EnabledPcmCaptureBitsAndRates"=dword:fffffffe
"EnableInputMonitor"=hex:01 <--- I believe this was the value I changed
"KeepAdcAlwaysOn"=hex:00
"EnableHwSpeakerConfigurationSupport"=hex:00
"EnableIntSpkrMute"=hex:01
"GpioForSpdifMuteControl"=hex:01
"MicInRecVolume"=dword:0012076d
"MicBoost"=hex:01
"LineInRecVolume"=dword:00168000
"RecordingMux"=dword:00000001
"MixAtMonoOutMuxVolume"=dword:00000000
"MasterVolume"=dword:ffedfba8
"IntSpeakerMute"=hex:00
"MasterMute"=hex:00
"RecMonitorMute"=hex:01

Hi, I found this thread doing a search for sound recording problems on the M1710. I can't believe how badly Dell is stumbling over very simple things that I didn't even consider when making this purchase. Features that I've taken for granted on just about every laptop I've ever owned (and that's a multitude) are either overlooked or specifically deleted from what should be their flagship "everything but the kitchen sink" model. Bleh, so much for innovation.

Anyway, since picking up my jaw off the table when I discovered that apparently the brainy children of Dell don't want me to be able to record the sounds I'm hearing on my laptop, I've been digging around for the registry fix to turn it back on. The tip you've given above is about as close as I've seen to a solution, but I'm having a little trouble still.

After enabling the EnableInputMonitor registry entry, I now see it in the "playback" section of the volume editor. However, it's grayed out and still doesn't change anything on the recording side.

I know that *someone* out there must have a hack to restore this basic functionality, please let us know how you did it.

use streamripper (I think it was called) w/ winamp, it just captures the files being sent.