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I want a sagar but..

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I want a sagar but i dont like the low batt. life is there any other brand as good as a sagar but with batt. live, or an AMD processer. Im looking at the 4780 and 4760, with 3.0 Ghz, 512KB, 60gb hdd. any suggestions or bias opinions?

post #2 of 31
Ive never heard of a brand called Sagar. You might want to try Sager notebooks though.... I own one and its a pretty good brand.
post #3 of 31
If you place your notebook near a strong gravitational source, to an outside observer the battery will appear to last longer...
post #4 of 31
Picky, picky, picky. You are as bad as me Enderet. But akg980, there's nothing like a SAGER, at least not in its price range. Face it, they can only stuff so much power in a battery, a machine with a given level of performance is going to use a given amount of power. Where the two meet is pretty much a set point. The CPU is maybe 1/2 to 2/3 of the power drain in a high performance machine. No matter what, the best you can do is cut that by maybe half. So the SAGER 4780 burns 90 watts, perhaps 50 to 60 of that is the CPU, the best you are going to do with that kind of processing power is cut that in half, down to 25 or 30 watts, so your total is still going to be around 60 watts and you could get 50% more battery life. At the SAGER's 60 minutes under stress, that's another 30 minutes, at its 120 minutes cruising, another 60 minutes. Them's the facts and there's no way around it.

You might want to look at the various AMD 64 powered machines, the ones with the 128 MB ATI 9600 video systems like the VooDoo M855 or the Hypersonic AX6, those are about the best you will do. They will have lots and lots of power, some proofing for 64-bit future, and they are relatively less juice hungry, as noted above you might get an extra 30 minutes of battery life.
post #5 of 31
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Originally Posted by Tom@PCTorque
If you place your notebook near a strong gravitational source, to an outside observer the battery will appear to last longer...
Won't it also seem the machine is running slower?
post #6 of 31
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Won't it also seem the machine is running slower?
Nitpick, nitpick, nitpick
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Will Sager/Clevo bring out an AMD64 based notebook soon?
post #9 of 31
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Originally Posted by MARQUISDARQUIS
Won't it also seem the machine is running slower?
First of all TOM and Marquis are both wrong.

When you place the system near a strong gravitational field it will be destroyed instantaneously. Forget the computer, you will be killed instantaneously the instant you insert your hand into the "critical" sphere around the field..stretched like spaghetti

ok shoot me
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You guys watch too much stargate... wait, no, thats me... nevermind.
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Originally Posted by gsferrari
First of all TOM and Marquis are both wrong.

When you place the system near a strong gravitational field it will be destroyed instantaneously. Forget the computer, you will be killed instantaneously the instant you insert your hand into the "critical" sphere around the field..stretched like spaghetti

ok shoot me
Well, if the source is strong enough, wouldn't the notebook appear frozen just above the Schwartzchild radius, effectively giving it infinite battery life over zero clock cycles?

I wish I hadn't slept my way through high-school physics.
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Haha.... poor akg980

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They should make digression an Oscar category, I am sure one of our members would win.
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Originally Posted by Tom@PCTorque
Well, if the source is strong enough, wouldn't the notebook appear frozen just above the Schwartzchild radius, effectively giving it infinite battery life over zero clock cycles?

I wish I hadn't slept my way through high-school physics.

No - unless you take it to the whatsit radius with zero accelleration. You will have to find a path in space where you have a change in accelleration due to the system being "stopped" at the point in space from a state of motion (you have to move it there dont you )...
But is this even possible?? I think you would need a negative-accelleration to keep it from falling into the point source of the gravitational field...

Quantum mechanics doesnt work here does it??
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Ow, my head.
post #16 of 31
I dont understand either...its like this...

You have the critical radius...you move the computer into this radius...it has to be at a tangential trajectory with a continuously decreasing velocity so that the horizontal component drops to zero as soon as the computer enters this orbit...now it will stay here because of the balance between centrifugal and centripetal forces...

I dunno if this is possible but it looks feasible - if this happens then we have a situation where gravity slows down time sufficiently enough but that doesnt change anything because TIME is slowed only for those OUTSIDE the sphere looking into it - so time for them runs faster and the system appears to run slower Not that they can see anything because the light from the LCD will swallowed by the gravitational source...
post #17 of 31
So what you're suggesting is that we park the laptop in "orbit" around the gravity source?

That will work as long as the orbit doesn't degrade at all, but you'd probably need to continually apply some kind of boost.
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challenge to modders

Anyone yet put rocket thrusters on their laptop?
post #19 of 31
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Originally Posted by PTR
So what you're suggesting is that we park the laptop in "orbit" around the gravity source?

That will work as long as the orbit doesn't degrade at all, but you'd probably need to continually apply some kind of boost.
...And that would have to drain the battery.
post #20 of 31
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Originally Posted by PTR
So what you're suggesting is that we park the laptop in "orbit" around the gravity source?

That will work as long as the orbit doesn't degrade at all, but you'd probably need to continually apply some kind of boost.
The orbit will not degrade because the system will continue to move around the point source with a velocity that allows the centripetal force to balance the centrifugal.


ohh...Orbit degradation...

What is interesting is that if the point source continues to attract matter into its center, the field becomes more powerful in which case there are two possibilities :-

1] whatsit radius decreases and computer angular velocity increases (try to calculate the order of increase...squared? cubed?)
2] Everything collapses into the point source indiscriminately...but this is not how a black hole works...it still has a limited radius where the singularity has an effect...
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