256MB NVIDIA GeForce Go 7200

Sure it will work, just turn everything off. Let me ask you this, from what I've read AERO is going to be a 3-D interface.... stressing the video card far more than XP... How do you think a 7200 is going to run when the 3-D benchmarks are probally around 1200? 7200 = ????? in the 3D benckmarks 7400 = 2,300 in the 3D benckmarks 7600 = 3,400 in the 3D benckmarks 7900 = 6,400 in the 3D benckmarks... As Jav1856 pointed out in this thread: http://www.notebookforums.com/thread168100.html

Well... sounds like you have answered your own question.

We is 100% correct. Have you noticed that pretty much every GPU that has been put into production over the last 6 months is on the list of Vista capable GPUs? That includes the ATI 200M which is just one step above the very generic Intel GPU. While some of the lower end cards listed may be able to run Vista, I have a lingering doubt that they will run Aero with all the visual effects, but does that really matter? How necessary is an interface that looks like glass to most users?

The GeForce Go 7200 is rated as “Vista Ready” not “Vista Premium Ready”, well at least that’s how nVidia lists it, http://www.nvidia.com/page/technology_vista_home.html. According to that list the GeForce FX Go5200 in my 2.5 year old dell is “Vista Ready”. Although it seems like it can’t run many new games, and I am not talking about graphic intensive games like Oblivion or Battlefield 2, I mean simple games like Civilization 4.

But since I don’t have a notebook with the 7200 and I am not beta testing Vista, maybe the 7200 will run Vista like champ. If you plan on doing a clean windows install on your dv6000 maybe you could try out a beta version of Vista for a few days and tell us how it works. I am very curious just how much GPU strength Vista is going to need to run Aero smoothly, and if Aero is even a useful feature.

Okay post the link that shows that the 7200 is a Vista Premium Ready GPU.

I think we can all agree that the GeForce Go 7200 is very comparable to the ATI X1300, here are the specs on both GPUs:

nVidia GeForce Go 7200 ATI Mobility Radeon X1300
Shader Model 3 Shader Model 3
4 Pipelines 4 Pipelines
64-bit Memory Bus 64-bit/128-bit Memory Bus
3DMark2003: ~2700 3DMark2003: ~2400
3DMark2005:~1400 3DMark2005:~1300

“Nvidia recommends ANY of their 7000 or 6000 series for FULL advantages of Vista.”

So in a real world test of Vista any 7000 or 6000 GPU would take FULL advantage of Vista?

Well here’s a quote from a real world test of a 6000 series card and the X1300 card on vista system:

“ATI uses the Radeon X300 core in its current crop of integrated chipsets and that falls far short of the mark. Its X1300 is also rather weak when it comes to Vista Premium. The X1600 is fine, but it’s doubtful whether the company can, for now, crowbar an X1600 core into a chipset's North Bridge part.

Nvidia doesn’t quite make the grade with its GeForce 6150, which has a GeForce 6200 core. However, the company is confident that it has plenty of time to tweak its drivers over the next few months to give it the extra speed it needs to run Vista Premium.”

Full article along with some interesting information on Vista’s WinSAT tool:
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/06..._hardware_pt2/

Well if we agree that the performance of the X1300 is similar to that of the 7200 I think it would be safe to assume that the 7200 may be “rather weak when it comes to Vista Premium”.

It also appears that your assertion that all of nVidia’s 6000 and 7000 series GPU’s will take full advantage of Vista isn’t really correct at this time. Remember that tech company’s love to overstate the power of their product.

I will admit these tests are flawed since they were conducted on a beta version of Vista and official fully optimized Vista drivers aren’t available for any of these GPUs. However, I do believe that the tests illustrate that Vista Premium compatibility at anything above a meager level of functionality can’t be stated as a certainty at this point in time for any low range to lower mid range cards. No one should say be saying any GPU will definitely run Vista wlong with all it’s bells and whistles unless they are currently running the beta on their machine, and all the features are working flawlessly.

I am not pointing this out to bash you or your computer. I sincerely hope that when Vista is released the premium version works well for anyone who has 200m, X1300,6150, 6200, 7200, 7300, 7400, etc. I just don’t want anyone who’s contemplating the purchase of a notebook with a GeForce 7200 to read posts saying Vista Premium will run great, since that has yet to be confirmed, and then be disappointed if for some reason the 7200 falls short of nVidia’s promises.

Here’s an interesting article on Microsoft’s history of understating minimum requirements and it makes several good point on why Microsoft would be interested in understating Vista requirements, it also gives you an idea of what future requirements Vista will have. http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/06...ista_hardware/

3DMark2005:

7200 = 1,400 in the 3D benckmarks
7400 = 2,300 in the 3D benckmarks
7600 = 3,400 in the 3D benckmarks
7900 = 6,400 in the 3D benckmarks...

Hmmm... Wonder which card should I order with my next system???

I'm not "bitter"... I'm just pointing out for those that may not know that the 7200 series used in the "new" (8-2006) HP dv6000z is a pretty weak card as others have tried to tell you as well. Vista and Aero are going to be resource hogs... so I don't think that the 7200 is going to perform well unless you turn off most all, if not all the eye candy. I think it is going to be you that is "bitter" later on upon reflection that you traded the purchase of that Dell 1705, with the 7900GS GPU.... Purchasing instead the dv6000z with the 7200....Trading performance over looks... I was thinking about it earlier.. 7900GS = Porsche 917 7200 = Laser 917 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_917 The Porsche 917/30 was the most powerful sports car racer ever built and raced. The 5.4 litre 12 cylinder twin-turbocharged engine could produce 1500 bhp with twin turbochargers run up to full boost, a simply astonishing 39 p.s.i, though it usually raced with around 1100bhp to preserve the engine. The 917/30 dominated in the CanAm series during the early seventies. The 917/30 could go from 0-60 mph in 1.9 seconds, 0-100 in 3.9 seconds and 0-200 in 10.9 seconds and on to a top speed of 245 mph+ The 917 is one of the most iconographic sports racing cars of all time. dv6000z with the 7200.... is like the Laser 917 "kit" car... which used a VW bug drivetrain and chassis... under that slick looking body. http://geocities.com/replicaporsche917k/ Laser 917 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...er+Porsche+917

I think there’s a decent chance that the 7200 will run Vista Premium with all the bells and whistles at a functional level. However, right now it seems like the 7200 and other lower range cards are falling a little short. I just pointed out the short current problems of lower range cards so anyone who may be considering a notebook with one of these cards would be informed that a lower in card may not be able to take full advantage of Vista.

But as Vista is further refined for launch, and the GPU manufacturers keep tweaking drivers there’s a good chance the issues lower range cards are having may be solved, but that’s not a 100% certainty. I don’t think it’s a big deal if it turns out that lower range cards can’t run all the features of Vista. The biggest issue would most likely come from aero, and from what I can tell Aero is only a slick interface. I don’t think anyone’s Vista experience will be ruined just because they can’t use arrow.

You bring up a good point about memory. I have been reading that the Vista Beta is taking around 500MB of system memory to just run. If a computer has a GPU which uses dedicated and system memory, this could mean that more RAM is a necessity. So let’s say a computer has 1GB of RAM, well if the GPU is allocating 192MB of system memory, and Vista is using 500MB of system memory to operate, that leaves just a touch over 300MB of RAM that can be allocated to other programs, and that’s assuming there are no other background process running. So unless Microsoft can reduce the amount of RAM Vista takes to operate, it look like 1.5GB or 2GB of RAM is going to be necessary to make a system functional.

Here's some dv6000z/ with the 7200 GPU benchmarks:


Hp dv6000z /7200 review here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=68732

For a comparision on the performance: to a:

Compaq Presario V3019US
AMD Turion64 X2 TL 50
1.00GB DDR2 PC4200
Nvidia Geforce 6150
80GB Fujitsu 5400rpm HDD...