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post #1 of 27
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Setup:

AMD Turion X2 1.8GHz
1G DDR-2 667 Single Channel
Hitachi 7K100 100GB 7200rpm P-ATA
stock nVidia Driver Version 8.4.4.6 04/28/2006

3DMark05




3DMark06

LL
post #2 of 27
I'm not too famliar with using benchmarks, but comparing it to your benchmarks of the S96J/Z96J, this seems to show a slight improvement? Would that be fair to say?
post #3 of 27
Na, for benchmarks its about the same, actually the X2-56 processor seems to run slower than T2400 ish..

Thats because a T2400 scores about 1600 in 3dmark06 CPU benchmark, while this one scored 1351 or so.
post #4 of 27
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Originally Posted by Mystery
Na, for benchmarks its about the same, actually the X2-56 processor seems to run slower than T2400 ish..

Thats because a T2400 scores about 1600 in 3dmark06 CPU benchmark, while this one scored 1351 or so.

1351?
post #5 of 27
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Originally Posted by GenTechPC
1351?
Yeah, 1351, look at 3dmark06 benchmark, under the total score, theres the "CPU SCORE"...
post #6 of 27
but looking at the overall 3dmark06 benchmarks for the Z96J and Z92T, the Z92T appears to be better. Again, perhaps I'm reading this wrong...but in this review: http://www.notebookforums.com/forums/thread162862.html by Gentech, even with all the various drivers used, the highest 3dmark06 score was 2051 vs 2242 for the Z92T.
post #7 of 27
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Z96J was tested with Dual-Channel and Z92T was tested with Single Channel. Also Z92T score 2242 3DMark06 with stock GeForce driver while Z96J score 1709 with stock driver and 2051 with Omega Driver overclock using ATI Tool.
post #8 of 27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mystery
Yeah, 1351, look at 3dmark06 benchmark, under the total score, theres the "CPU SCORE"...

Sorry I didn't see that.
post #9 of 27
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Originally Posted by GenTechPC
Z96J was tested with Dual-Channel and Z92T was tested with Single Channel. Also Z92T score 2242 3DMark06 with stock GeForce driver while Z96J score 1709 with stock driver and 2051 with Omega Driver overclock using ATI Tool.

So again, does this not reinforce the conclusion that overall, the performance of the Z92T is slightly higher, if not at least on par with, than that of the Z96J? There has been little coverage to date of the performance of the Turion X2, yet people would like to claim that it has no hope of competing with Intel's recent mobile offerings. I know that Merom will be the better chip, at this point (when it becomes more available), but the Turion X2 is 64bit already, whereas Yonah is not. Although I prefer AMD, I would want to make sure this laptop still competes well with Yonah and has good battery life to boot. Thanks to anyone who can respond to this.
post #10 of 27
Thanks Ken, for the benchmarks.

X1600 in the Z96j vs 7600 in the Z92T
The X1600 has a few features graphic related that are not in the 7600.
The Pixel Shader 2 (3DMark05) shows both cards to perform equally.
The Pixel Shader 3 (3DMark06) as expected Nvidia should win this, since their PS3 technology is superior to ATI, but this difference of 500 marks at stocks may only make marginable differences.

The Yonah Vs Taylor, Yonah wins overall, but Taylor has 64bit and many like AMD .

Merom vs Taylor, so far Merom shows little improvements over Yonah, thus making Merom better than Taylor, but still people like AMD.

Batterylife....hmm, we would need someone to compare the Z96j and Z92T in battery life and see what happens, generally AMD has slightly lower batterylife but we'll see.

Once Again Intel combined with ATI or Nvidia is a winner, but many will still go for AMD with Nvidia for maximum Linux benefits and the fact that Taylor is available sooner than Merom.


Thanks,

MysticGolem
post #11 of 27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MysticGolem
Thanks Ken, for the benchmarks.

X1600 in the Z96j vs 7600 in the Z92T
The X1600 has a few features graphic related that are not in the 7600.
The Pixel Shader 2 (3DMark05) shows both cards to perform equally.
The Pixel Shader 3 (3DMark06) as expected Nvidia should win this, since their PS3 technology is superior to ATI, but this difference of 500 marks at stocks may only make marginable differences.

The Yonah Vs Taylor, Yonah wins overall, but Taylor has 64bit and many like AMD .

Merom vs Taylor, so far Merom shows little improvements over Yonah, thus making Merom better than Taylor, but still people like AMD.

Batterylife....hmm, we would need someone to compare the Z96j and Z92T in battery life and see what happens, generally AMD has slightly lower batterylife but we'll see.

Once Again Intel combined with ATI or Nvidia is a winner, but many will still go for AMD with Nvidia for maximum Linux benefits and the fact that Taylor is available sooner than Merom.


Thanks,

MysticGolem

Good point, Taylor are for AMD users and Asus wants them to know that they didn't forget about AMD fans even Asus taking pressures from Intel (just like AMD thunderbird first realease and Asus has to sell their MB in whitebox).

One of our forum member will soon do a review of Merom on Z96J so we can compare Merom Vs Taylor.
post #12 of 27
I would like to see some sort of 64-bit test between merom and taylor. I dont know any way to realy test it thow.
post #13 of 27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by superkdog
I would like to see some sort of 64-bit test between merom and taylor. I dont know any way to realy test it thow.
RC30 has Merom on Z96J, I belive he is working on the review for us, or you can call his Z96J: MacBook 96J.
post #14 of 27
Woah, im very interested in this machine. the CPU score difference doesnt seem that high, since a T2400 scorea around 1480 so at least its not much weaker this new 1.8ghz turion. Merom on the other hand is much more powerful.

but i dont mind that. You think Turions will drop prices anytime soon due to merom? well actually what i wonder is how good will this laptop be in a year or so, because since with Win Vista comes out DX10... im not sure on what to do.

what i like about this machine is the fact that has a good GPU and good CPU that is 64 bit already. How exactly does the 64 bit will afect performance? i have a very rough idea but i would like someone to help me here and let me know in Win Vista, for example, how will it improve over 32 bit.
post #15 of 27
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Originally Posted by Ryzeki
Woah, im very interested in this machine. the CPU score difference doesnt seem that high, since a T2400 scorea around 1480 so at least its not much weaker this new 1.8ghz turion. Merom on the other hand is much more powerful.

but i dont mind that. You think Turions will drop prices anytime soon due to merom? well actually what i wonder is how good will this laptop be in a year or so, because since with Win Vista comes out DX10... im not sure on what to do.

what i like about this machine is the fact that has a good GPU and good CPU that is 64 bit already. How exactly does the 64 bit will afect performance? i have a very rough idea but i would like someone to help me here and let me know in Win Vista, for example, how will it improve over 32 bit.

I don't think there is any application or games that can truely take advantage of 64Bit yet, the software part is still long way to go, maybe sometimes next year.

In my Z96J 3DMark06 benchmark test, the T2500 2.0GHz score 1709, the Merom T7400 2.16GHz score 1746, that's because T7400 has higher clock speed not because the 64bit improve gaming performance, at least not until 64bit games comes out.


I am not sure if AMD will drop price when Merom comes out. As for DX10, it's really depends on GPU not CPU.
post #16 of 27
I don’t get it... i saw the review of Turion 64 X2 at Tomshardware and other sites and they seem very similar. The difference being intel approx overall 7%(not all cases) better or so. now... this difference is not that big and this battle reminds me of the desktop battle between P4 and A64--- they had similar performance, with A64 being the overall better choice and i even remember articles like A64 3500+ better than any P4 processor etc. yet there wasnt this level of adversity against the p4. Core Duo is barely better than Turion, yet they treat Turion as if it was already such a crappy processor, its weird. It doesn’t matter which processor you have right now, both core duo and turion give you excellent performance, very similar and also in price are similar. i wonder why i feel so much negativity against these turions 64… Anyways, Merom will obviously be the best in performance but whatever i suppose i can wait for a merom computer, and hope they are not very expensive.

thanks for the help Gentech, and what I meant about Dx10 obviously is not for the CPU, I meant for the GPU since the 7600go is a DX9 and I wanted to know if it would be wise to get a machine with 64bit cpu but only DX9. in the end, I think it doesn’t matter what machine I get, most likely I will end buying a new comp when DX10 cards get out which I believe is around a year (for the laptop, medium range cards).

So I might get a low configured Asus, to then trade if for a new one with DX10 card.

it seems at this point, the Z92T and S96J cost around the same, and perform similarly. this is taking into account all the features are the same on the machines. so, right now i will get the machine that gives me better gaming performance.

Now, i know the X1600 has its advantages over the 7600go, such as AA+HDR etc, but i dont think that i will use much those features because the cards are not that powerful to use eye candy like that in newer games, when i clearly prefer more fps.

Which is the better laptop then, gaming wise?-- Z92T or S96J
post #17 of 27
I got a question...
wheres the intake air for the fan?
Even thow i'm holding it i cant find out its pushing air out fairly well but i bet if i made some holes in the panel covering the cpu that it will do better.
post #18 of 27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by superkdog
I got a question...
wheres the intake air for the fan?
Even thow i'm holding it i cant find out its pushing air out fairly well but i bet if i made some holes in the panel covering the cpu that it will do better.

It's on the left side of the laptop.
post #19 of 27
I ment were it sucks the air in, i know were it pushes it out.
post #20 of 27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryzeki
I don’t get it... i saw the review of Turion 64 X2 at Tomshardware and other sites and they seem very similar. The difference being intel approx overall 7%(not all cases) better or so. now... this difference is not that big and this battle reminds me of the desktop battle between P4 and A64--- they had similar performance, with A64 being the overall better choice and i even remember articles like A64 3500+ better than any P4 processor etc. yet there wasnt this level of adversity against the p4. Core Duo is barely better than Turion, yet they treat Turion as if it was already such a crappy processor, its weird. It doesn’t matter which processor you have right now, both core duo and turion give you excellent performance, very similar and also in price are similar. i wonder why i feel so much negativity against these turions 64… Anyways, Merom will obviously be the best in performance but whatever i suppose i can wait for a merom computer, and hope they are not very expensive. thanks for the help Gentech, and what I meant about Dx10 obviously is not for the CPU, I meant for the GPU since the 7600go is a DX9 and I wanted to know if it would be wise to get a machine with 64bit cpu but only DX9. in the end, I think it doesn’t matter what machine I get, most likely I will end buying a new comp when DX10 cards get out which I believe is around a year (for the laptop, medium range cards). So I might get a low configured Asus, to then trade if for a new one with DX10 card. it seems at this point, the Z92T and S96J cost around the same, and perform similarly. this is taking into account all the features are the same on the machines. so, right now i will get the machine that gives me better gaming performance. Now, i know the X1600 has its advantages over the 7600go, such as AA+HDR etc, but i dont think that i will use much those features because the cards are not that powerful to use eye candy like that in newer games, when i clearly prefer more fps. Which is the better laptop then, gaming wise?-- Z92T or S96J
I tested Turion X2 TL-56 1.8GHz vs Merom T7400 2.16 GHz, on 3Dmark05 they seem to have same result but in 3DMark 06 Tl-56 runs much better with GeForce Go 7600. If you preffer FPS then the Z92T is better than Z96/S96J in 3DMark06 and it seem more accurate for future gaming and new platforms. In order for Merom/Yonah to get the simliar result in 3DMark2006 required overclock the GPU while Taylor/GeForce Go 7600 only use stock driver.
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