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post #21 of 62
8/14/06 at 6:05pm
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Done. Sorry for not doing it earlier, I just got access to my FTP again. Anyways, any other ideas as to why those graphs aren't showing?
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post #22 of 62
8/15/06 at 1:40am
this is sorta the same thing just different topic, when i go to launch my browser it takes a bit to load my homepage (google), i have norton system works, i disabled page phishing which really sped up pages loading once the homepage loads but i cant seem to figure y it takes the homepage so long to load, about 15 secs or so longer if i open it right after startup. it says its detecting proxy settings but im not using proxy stuff i have it set to automatically detect settings. any suggestions???
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post #23 of 62
8/15/06 at 1:52am
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Untick the Automatically Detect Proxy Settings checkbox from the Internet Options settings under IE. I had similar problems with it before and that solved it.
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post #24 of 62
8/15/06 at 12:49pm
wow that really helped now i have no problems with the nbook, really simple thanks .poneh
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post #25 of 62
8/15/06 at 3:49pm
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No problemp. Glad I could be of assistance.
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post #26 of 62
8/19/06 at 3:34am
Poneh. Just got my new 1405. did a test with bootvis & noticed I was running into the same issue as you were...It was not recording all the data it was supposed to. tried everything I could think of & finally bbegan my XP reinstallation (what I always do with a new PC) and found bootvis worked correctly, as it does with my 1710 & XPS 2. (both clean XP installs-

XPS 2-Professional
M1710-Home
E1405-Media Center

So it seems it is something that is already a part of the default bloatware install that is interfering with the bootvis process./
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post #27 of 62
8/19/06 at 2:11pm
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Ah, thanks for the help. I was hoping that it wouldn't resort to this, but I guess it's the only way around it. I don't know if it's worth going through the hassle of reinstalling Windows for this, but my machine has been working somewhat erratic lately. Maybe I should consider this.

Thanks a lot for the info though Sol, I appreciate it.
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post #28 of 62
8/20/06 at 3:38am
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Hey Sol,

If it isn't too much trouble, can you run Bootvis and get a screenie of the newly reformatted laptop showing the task manager as well. Like you did before. Also, can you have it display the Process Creates graph and alphabetize the task manager.

That way I can have something to easily reference to. Thanks again...
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post #29 of 62
8/20/06 at 4:39am
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FIXED!

I can't believe I have finally fixed the problem. Turns out that DEP prevents Bootvis from performing it's full duties. So I just changed my boot.ini file from (...)/noexecute to (...)/execute and voila! Check out my screenie:

http://home.cfl.rr.com/akarol/bootvis-new.gif

Now, I have noticed that doing this has increase 10 seconds on my Process Creates graph. I am still at 54 sec boot time, this is unacceptable. I don't know what else I can do to minimize that. I don't understand why my CPU Utilization stays at 100% after 30ish secs.
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post #30 of 62
8/20/06 at 4:41am
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BTW, I have found this guide on Bootvis that seems to be quite comprehensive. I plan on studying it for the next couple of days and seeing if it'll enlighten me somewhat. Check it out:

http://home.cfl.rr.com/akarol/guide.doc
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post #31 of 62
8/20/06 at 9:16am
.PoNeH,

What is DEP. I have the same graph prob w/ bootvis (and I already have done a fresh XP install) Boot times about what yours are. Although I can't be exact as I don't see the graphs
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post #32 of 62
8/20/06 at 1:26pm
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Data execution prevention (DEP) is a set of hardware and software technologies that perform additional checks on memory to help protect against malicious code exploits. In Windows XP SP2, DEP is enforced by both hardware and software.

I find that it's a risk worthwhile taking.

Let me ask you guys, does wmiprvse.exe startup twice on your Process Creates graph? I just noticed it and I'm wondering if it is normal. I read in places that it is, but I don't remember it doing it before. I'm wondering if this is something I just noticed and it's always been there.
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post #33 of 62
8/20/06 at 1:51pm
yes it is normal to have several instances of wmiprvse running. I will do a screenshot & upload it in a litle while. As far as Q56 experiencing the same issue I would have to ask what you installed before you ran bootvis the first time. Any clean installation of XP with basic driver installations completed will show the complete graph.


It has to be something you have done, either through tweaking or installation of a 3rd party application before you ran the bootvis app for the first time.
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post #34 of 62
8/20/06 at 2:19pm
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I believe it is SP2. It seems to automatically turn on DEP, which is the culprit.
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post #35 of 62
8/20/06 at 4:21pm
...hmmm Well I just did a little testing...formatted my 1405, did Dell's Ghost restore & bootvis no longer worked correctly... Removed every piece of bloatware, reinstalled all the drivers & it still does not workk right. Added Bootvis to DEP exception list & it still does not work.

It's something about the Dell install..a modified OEM dll file...or one of a million other minor tweaks Dell could have instituted into the installation.


....Q56. Is that a fresh OEM -Dell install or a fresh XP winstall with a seperate CD?

If it was a fresh install, what did you install before you ran the forst bootvis test? I have used Bootvis for a long time & have never had a "clean install" issue with it.

We just need to narrow down what specific action is cauising Bootvis to fail.
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post #36 of 62
8/20/06 at 6:50pm
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What do you mean fail? Does it not work at all, or does it not show all the graphs? In order to show all the graphs, you need to put (...)/execute in the boot.ini file.

If it just doesn't work properly, it might be because you have DISABLED the Task Scheduler process. Check if that is it.
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post #37 of 62
8/20/06 at 7:41pm
Poneh, I hope you are not asking me about the "fail" ...I am referring to the same topic we have been talking about for the last 2 pages. Fail means it is not properly showing the graphs & boot times.

As I stated, this was a CLEAN install of the Dell version of the Windows install that the bootvis program fails under. It works properly under the clean install.
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post #38 of 62
8/20/06 at 8:37pm
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Well, we have discussed a lot of issue with Bootvis. Failing could mean not reaching the desired boot time, not showing all the graphs, and we have even talked about Optimization freezing.

I am confident that it is something to do with DEP. Try doing what I told you and I'm sure it'll work. Your clean installs have SP2 installed?
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post #39 of 62
8/20/06 at 9:17pm
...Clean install of SP2 with DEP enabled works just fine. any config under Dell install fails...As far as your boot time (which is terrible) I would suggest trial & error....disable everything that is not windows critical under services & check it against the boot time & re-enable 1 at a time until you find the culprit
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post #40 of 62
8/21/06 at 11:02pm
SolApathy, I've definately installed alot after my fresh Xp install. LIke XP office 2003, avast, thunderbird, mozilla firefox, MyDVD, Roxio, HP lasejet 1010 drivers, Dell Quickset, Dell Bluetooth drivers, Dell Proset/wireless drivers, Futuremark programs, Dell Mobile broadband utility, FEAR demo, Prey Demo, Adobe, various XP updates. That's about it.

I fresh installed from the Dell XP media edition disk that came with the lappy.

The graphs don't work on bootvis. How do you disable DEP. I'll give it a try and report back if anyone can tell me how to disable.
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