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post #41 of 62
8/22/06 at 12:57am
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Open up boot.ini with Notepad. You might have to uncheck the Hide Protected System Files and reveal hidden files in the Folder Options menu to show the boot.ini file. It resides in your C:\ folder. Then where it says (...)/noexecute... in the file, change it to say (...)/execute... and reboot your machine. Try to trace with Bootvis. The graphs should now work.
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post #42 of 62
8/22/06 at 1:26pm
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I have ran CHKDSK and I was able to cut down the Process Creates graph from upper 90s to mid 70s. However, my boot time is still around 47. I am running out of options here. Something I have noticed is that my Disk Utilization graph is showing a constant 100% usage, which doesn't seem normal. Anyone have any idea on resolving this issue? I have already disabled Write Indexing.

Here is what my graphs look like:

http://home.cfl.rr.com/akarol/bootvis1.JPG
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post #43 of 62
8/22/06 at 2:52pm
make sure you are not in PIO mode or a lower ATA mode on your drive controller.


....also turn off Zone alarm, see if that has any effect on your boot performance.
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post #44 of 62
8/22/06 at 11:06pm
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Originally Posted by .PoNeH
Open up boot.ini with Notepad. You might have to uncheck the Hide Protected System Files and reveal hidden files in the Folder Options menu to show the boot.ini file. It resides in your C:\\ folder. Then where it says (...)/noexecute... in the file, change it to say (...)/execute... and reboot your machine. Try to trace with Bootvis. The graphs should now work.


I couldn't find a boot.ini, but i did find a boot.ini.backup. I changed it like you said, but no deal, still no graphs. I made everything unhidden too.
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post #45 of 62
8/23/06 at 12:25am
go into start/settings/control panel/system/advanced/startup and recovery SETTINGS/EDIT (under edit the startup options file)

have you set your computerto display hidden as well as SYSTEM files (there are 2 seperate settings)
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post #46 of 62
8/23/06 at 12:56pm
SolApathy, Thanks, I found it that way and edited the boot.ini file and now bootvis works with all the graphs, boot time, etc.

My time is pretty fast (21 secs). Although I thought it was alot slower. I would time it manually and wait for the computer to load everything, wait for the HD to calm down, etc., and I was around 45-50 secs.

So I did a test. I rebooted , waited 21 secs then tried to open an application. It opened (excel). I guess eventhough the computer is still going through some processed, the boot part is finished after 21 seconds and I can start "computing".
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post #47 of 62
8/23/06 at 1:09pm
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Nice boot time man. I wish I had mine that low. Can you do me a favor and post a screenshot of your graphs? Maybe uploading your TRACE_BOOT.bins would be more helpful.

I noticed that my Shell bar, is about 5x larger than Sol's and I wonder why. What is the Shell anyways?
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post #48 of 62
8/23/06 at 2:31pm
Shell is the Explorer.exe shell (core component of Windows GUI) As far as uploading the trace file..Those exceed 100MB so it is not feasable to upload it.

I know you are trying to avoid it, but reinstalling Windows is going to be your best bet. You are going to spend more time on slows load & trying to figure out what is going on, than it would take to install a clean version that you know is in perfect working order.


I would suggest you create at least 2 partitions. 1 for Windows, etc, and one to store drivers, backups of documents, favorites, mail files...etc in the event something ever goes wrong.


I have my system partitioned into 3 drives

C:-OS & Apps
D:-Games & Media
E:-Utilities, backups, drivers, crap I download for installation off the internet.

as you know, my boot times run around 19 seconds with Zone alarm & all my other aps running . As lolng as you can get something that boots under 30 seconds you are good to go.
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post #49 of 62
8/23/06 at 3:42pm
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Well, I have an Inspiron 700m that boot in less than 20 seconds and it is running practically the same amount of drivers/software at boot up. I'm going to first explore that laptop with bootvis and see what the differences are. If I can't find anything that will help me, than I'm going to do as you recommend and just reformat this damn thing. I'll let you know what happens.
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post #50 of 62
8/23/06 at 3:44pm
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Originally Posted by .PoNeH
Nice boot time man. I wish I had mine that low. Can you do me a favor and post a screenshot of your graphs? Maybe uploading your TRACE_BOOT.bins would be more helpful. I noticed that my Shell bar, is about 5x larger than Sol's and I wonder why. What is the Shell anyways?
I'd be more than happy to do it-----Just teach me how. I do know how to host image thru imageshack, but how do I do a screen shot and where is the file saved to.
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post #51 of 62
8/23/06 at 4:27pm
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Well, if you press the PRINT SCREEN keyboard button, then it'll store whatever is on your screen to the clipboard. All you need to do is open MSPAINT after doing it and PASTE it in there. You should then see the screen capture in there and you can then save and name the file. Make sure to save the image as either a JPG or GIF. Then just upload it somewhere like imageshack.com and share the link with us.

Sol, do you think you could share with me a list of your DEVICE MANAGER all expanded? I have disabled some devices here and there and have found that it improved my boot time. i am gonna try to replicate your Device Manager to see if that'll help with the issue.
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post #52 of 62
8/23/06 at 5:05pm
Here is a screen print. It cut off the drivers graph. If you need that, tell me, and I'll post it.

<a href="http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bootvisui3.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6021/bootvisui3.th.jpg" border="0" /></a>
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post #53 of 62
8/23/06 at 5:24pm
Here's one with task manager running. 61 processes. When I did a clean XP install I started out with 30+ processes. Once I loaded my necessary stuff....< 60 processes. Some processes on the task manager, like bootvis, IExplorer, Firefox, use the most memory. I took the screen print when they were running.

<a href="http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bootvisor3.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3882/bootvisor3.th.jpg" border="0" /></a>
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post #54 of 62
8/23/06 at 5:37pm
Poneh, the only 2 things I have disabled are the modem (done through BIOS) and the smart card reader- disabled the reader & removed the smartcard service from services.msc

I epanded it but gosh there are so many devices & those are the only 2 disabled.


I also diabled the following items in services
-Help & support
-Indexing services
-All system restore services

whathappens when you disable everything in msconfig under startup & check the hide all microsoft services under the services tab & clear all those entries.

...The only thing that I can realy come up with is a driver hanging.
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post #55 of 62
8/23/06 at 6:21pm
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Wow Q56, thanks. I can't believe that you're running 61 processes and still booting up in such short of a time. I believe my problem might be hardware as I am running about half the processes that you are.

I am also confused as to how your Disk Utilization graph isn't showing a consistant 100% usage like mine. That might have something to do with it I believe.

Like Sol, you have a very small Shell bar. Looks like you're is about 2 seconds long; mine is over 26 seconds long. I need to find the culprit there.

Sol, thanks again for the prompt reply. I'll get back to you after trying what you recommended.
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post #56 of 62
8/23/06 at 11:03pm
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Aha, I believe I have found ONE of the culprits: SQLServer. Removing that service alone has reduced my boot time from 54ish to 36ish. My Shell went from 26ish to 7ish now. However, I really need this service in order to handle ASP web development in my machine. I'm going to do some more research and see how it can be fixed.

Now, even though my boot time has drastically reduced, it still isn't below the margin I'd like for it to be. So I am going to do some more searching around for more culprits.

I'll let you know what I find out.
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post #57 of 62
8/24/06 at 2:01pm
The laptop in my sig has a boot time of around 90 seconds but that is with firewall, antivirus, etc all getting started and with multiple development environments installed. Bootvis hasn't done much to help this at all That is from when I see the first bios screen to when I am logged in and can start up another program.

Edit: I just dropped my boot time down to 48 seconds by removing all network drives since they were causing a network delay at bootup.
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post #58 of 62
8/24/06 at 7:32pm
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What do you mean by network drives? Also, try setting your SQLSERVER process to MANUAL. That alone dropped 20 seconds from boot time. The only difference from my processes to Sol's and Q56's was the .NET Environment, so I figured it had to be one of those. I'm down to 33 from 54ish, my coal is somewhere around 25 or below. Then I'll settle down.
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post #59 of 62
8/24/06 at 7:40pm
I tihnk he might be referring to opening windows explorer :tools/folder options/view/automatically search for network forlders & printers
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post #60 of 62
8/24/06 at 8:58pm
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Try that, and didn't help.
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