dv9000 Clamshell: what say ye?

Me like shiny case... Upper and lower case housings now made of out magnesium alloy, instead of plastic now... so $500 more no big deal.... PS: On the demo of the new units it touts "new surface sophisication".... Me glad that HP foucus on making shiny.

Wha!? Since when? And where does it say? That is awesome! Everyone has been complaining about the case being made out of plastic, so I naturally assumed it was made out of plastic, but part of it is magnesium alloy??? lmao!

But how did you find that it has magnesium alloy? Have you physically felt and looked at one? Did you hear it from someone else who has one? Because the technician person that I talked to made absolutely no mention of magnesium alloy, and he said the case, made out of that fibre stuff, is very similar to plastic. I've been checking my emails and no log has come in so either I mis-typed my email or he didn't send me one or whatever, but it's probably not going to come. I will request it from HP sometime today and see if they can re-send that log, because I would really like to paste it here for everyone to see.

It's got to be made out of magnesium alloy if HP's saying it's an "Industrial design". (Says right on Hp's site, or in on of the demo's that it's an Industrial design.) I was mighty glad to hear HP is as they say making an "industrial design". Industrial design meaning to me, a magnesium alloy case, with the drives shock mounted... Industrial design implying it's rugged, durable... tough. Have a unit with a "plastic" case and you drop something on the unit and you can kiss the LCD panel goodby. At $956 for the lcd panel itself (dv8000t) Seeing how the LCD lid has very little internal clearance to the lcd panel... magnesium alloy is the way to go. Amazing thing about all of this is how they made the magnesium alloy look and feel just "like" plastic.. . I guess that's where the "new surface sophisication" that HP is so proud of comes in. Dell 1705's /1710's are made out of magnesium, them already coming with the 7900GS GPU that smokes the 7600 gpu used in the dv9000 series... and the Dells already have a DVI port... So I can't see why Hp wouldn't use a magnesium alloy case.

Hey, when you're taking with HP...

Ask HP about Dell's 17 incher's... And your thoughts on what "industrial design" means. Hp's business line has a mag case, and if you're making an industrial design as HP calls it surely means that HP is using magnesium on their flapship model as well ....

Dells are made out of magnesium, have a much faster GPU (The 7900GS, 7900GTX), and already have a DVI output...
Dells also having a native resolution screen of 1920 x 1200 pixels, 2.3 Mpixels .


HP's displays maxing out at 1680x1050
PS: On that max resolution output... I read that to output to a HD BIG SCREEN TV, Plasma, Projector at 1080... that you have to have a GPU that will output at 1920x1200.

That if you're outputing at a lower resolution you can only do 720.

Ask them while you have them on the line if the new dv9000 series is going to be able to output in true HDTV (1080) additionally ask them if its going to be able to output at 1080 to a big screen, 1080p (progressive), instead of 1080i (interlaced).... Progressive refreshing the screen on each scan, interlaced refreshing the screen on every other scan. Progressive being better.


One last thing, ask for the spec's on the displays on the new 9000's. Curious how the display panel spec's stack up against the competition.

Here's the Dell spec's on a 1705, parts in BOLD being for the 1920 x 1200 pixels panel.

17 inch WXGA+ 17 inch Ultra SharpTM WUXGA with TrueLifeTM
Native
Resolution 1440 x 900 pixels 1920 x 1200 pixels

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MegaPixels 1.29 Mpixels 2.3 Mpixels

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Pixel
Pitch 0.255 mm 0.191 mm

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Luminance/
Brightness
(typical) 175 cd/m2 (nits) 185 cd/m2 (nits)

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Horizontal
Viewing
Angle +/- 40 degrees +/ - 65 degrees

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Vertical
Viewing
Angle +15/ -30 degrees +/ - 45 degrees

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Contrast
Ratio 300:1 300:1

PS:I was joking about the mag case.. It's made out of plastic.... probally using the motherboard to help stiffen the case.

Hello Ricky

Welcome to HP Total Care for Pavilion Notebook. My name is Pamela. How may I assist you today?

Hi, I was wondering what material the case of the dv9000 series notebooks are made out of?

I will assist you in this regard.

Thank you for staying online.

It is made of synthetic fibre material, Ricky.

Synthetic fiber material. Is there a name for this material?

We do not have the exact name oft he material, Ricky..

I regret for the inconvenience caused.

and is it more similar to plastic or metal?

It's similar to plastic.

What are the differences then?

It's more durable and the notebook has a very smooth finish.

At what temperature might it warp or distort, or even melt?

And does it fade over time with use? For instance, will my palms resting below the keyboard cause the finish to smudge or rub off, or even wear down this fibre material?

No Ricky, the colors will not fade. Please be assured.

Does it bend or break under stress? For instance, if I were to step on it, would it bend or even break?

It offers a smooth, high-gloss coating with a unique inlaid design. It also provides greater durability than HPs traditional paint process used on notebook PCs.

This will not be that tough, Ricky..

Yes but I'm basically trying to find out, is it worth getting over a similar magnesium alloy or other material notebook.

I have been reading, and people seem 'turned off' at the fact that it is not magnesium alloy, but instead is similar to plastic.

You will need to handle with some care, Ricky.

This is not built that tough.

Okay.

[then I asked some questions about warranty]

Ricky,

Since you're into the chat thing... and ALLOT of people would want to know..

Ask them about the display options, the specs of the display..

What resolution the HDMI port is going to output to. If it's going to output in true HDTV 1080p... If "hooking" up to a big screen TV is the purpose of the port (don't care if they "support it) I read in my big screen TV that the TV mfg does not "support" a HDMI input thru a computer..(Them putting that in there as the TV mfg doesn't want to get into all the things that can go wrong, trying to help confiqure an HDMI /DVI input from a computer)


Also ask them if they plan on offering (if they have not already) a HDTV tuner card. (HD) tuner card. (not a regular tv card)

I think something about Dell changed since the last time I checked their laptops, because I just customized that laptop to my liking, and it came to be about $2300, which is within my price range (although a little higher than I'd like to spend). I will have to wait til the Core 2 Duo comes out to make my final decision, but Dell suddenly looks very good since that price became lower... and I'm not sure why it got lower but I think it did. Before I became attached to HP, about a month ago I guess, I did look around at Dell, Acer, etc. and found that Dell was pricey (apparently they had rebates?) but now that they are in my price range, ... cool.

And I figure, the higher res the better. Especially with a video card like that, I could probably play cube (http://cube.sf.net) at the native 1920x1200 res... and Cube is the game that I play most. Of course, as soon as I get my laptop I'll be sure to check out other games since it will be able to handle them... My current desktop isn't great for playing games, especially with its 512mb ram.

This excites me... a new choice to consider. Now I will have to wait and see what changes the Core 2 Duo brings to the prices of HP and Dell laptops.

EDIT: WeAreNotAlone, you wrote that as I was writing this. I am starting a chat now, I will paste the log in here when I'm done.

"industrial design"... just like factories incorporating CCTV to watch the shop floor or the parking lot is sort of a stretch..

"Industrial design" is just a play on words, it's pure marketing BS.

Ricky Please do ask them about the HDMI... max output... if the HDMI's purpose is to allow the unit to be hooked up to current big screen, plasma's, projectors, and at what resolution.

That sounds like an "industrial design" to me...

Lightweight magnesium-reinforced frame and a magnesium-alloy display enclosure, with Strong metal alloy hinges with hardened steel pin axels are also are designed to withstand extensive use.

But that, of course, doesn't apply to the dv line, only the nw (business) line.

Oh, and I'm still waiting for the representative to look up those stats on the LCD display. It's been about 20 minutes. How annoying.

I mean, I like HP but suddenly, now that the Dell laptop is within my budget, I'm going to be keeping an eye on Dell.

Yes, I know... like I said I was just kidding.... trying to have some fun.... get this thread going somewhere... Thanks for asking about the spec's on the display, useful info indeed... Please do PUMP them for info on that HDMI port.. HDMI port being a very useful feature for allot of people... Another thing is the sound... HDMI spec not only adding in a HDCP signal that allows the unit to "talk" to the device its connected to (late model HDMI big screen, etc)... HDMI spec also transmits SOUND to the connnected device. Ask them if SOUND (audio) is transmitted over the HDMI port as well. If the HP only transmits a video signal, only transmits a 720p signal, instead of 1080p.. then for those wanting to be able to use that 70 inch big screen in their living room to output to it might be better to go with a DELL 1705 & 7900GS, since it already has a DVI port, and will output, should output at 1080.... the only thing being needed being a converter to convert from DVI to component.

Okay the chat is over, my last post has had its final edit and explains the stuff. Now everyone, start insulting HP!