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post #21 of 39
3/1/04 at 7:26pm
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Originally Posted by Craig
Errr...

He may want to play a game every now and again. Apple would not fit the bill there my friend.

-Craig
Apple laptops (Some at least, can't remember which ones) have a Radeon 9000 Mobility; they're probably faster at gaming than Centrino laptops.
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post #22 of 39
3/1/04 at 7:48pm
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Originally Posted by dugbug
It is not a centrino laptop. To be labeled Centrino it must have:

Pentium-M (which it has)
An 855 chip (it does not have)
Intel wireless miniPC (it does not have, btw intel has a G as well)

The centrino advantage (other than the wireless bit) is superior battery performance. The voodo pc you speced out is nice, but it will not hold up to your sentia on a long flight cross-country doing the same apps.

This link will discuss the relationship between the Pentium-M and the 855:
http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.html?i=1800&p=9
sorry dude your wrong

To have a centrino moniker has absolutely nothing to do with the gfx solution.

The have a centrino all u need are 3 things....
1) intel 2100 wireless card, pentium m chip, and an 855 variant mb of which there are 3, 855gm, 855gme, and 855pm. the 855pm has a 4x agp allowing u to slap in any gfx card u want. And if you did any research instead of just mouthing off you would realize the many m460 owners are reporting battery life in excess of 4 hours which is better than or equivalent to the best times reported here from sentia owners.
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post #23 of 39
3/1/04 at 8:02pm
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Originally Posted by Guspaz
Apple laptops (Some at least, can't remember which ones) have a Radeon 9000 Mobility; they're probably faster at gaming than Centrino laptops.
Sorry again 2 u too dude.

The new powerbook 12" comes with a dx9 geforecefx5200, while the 15 and 17 inch come w/ an ati 9600. which is all good, especially cuz the rest of the hardware rocks too! I know I had a 15" G4 powerbook.

The problem is that 95% (about) of games will never be released for apple, and the few that do never get the quality of optimization that their PC counterparts recieve. Im speaking from personal experience.
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post #24 of 39
3/1/04 at 8:04pm
Thread Starter 
But is the integrated video card ALL THAT TERRIBLE...it seems every laptop has its drawbacks. One has a dedicated video card that can be upgrade, one has flimsy design, one is ugly, one doesn't have 7200 rpm hard drive...I feel that the Sentia almost fits the bill, but is it really all that bad...Could it sustain me for 2 or so years?
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post #25 of 39
3/1/04 at 8:48pm
barely 2 years, not cuz its bad, just that the whole cpu industry will be making major changes in the next few months- like moving to pci express and sata as the standard.
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post #26 of 39
3/1/04 at 9:02pm
Thread Starter 
The option of not getting a laptop within the next 5 months is unrealistic.
What do you recommend?
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post #27 of 39
3/1/04 at 9:13pm
GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!! all my start out issues were due to a program "AnyPlay" . this is an awesome work laptop. WARNING causes much envy at work.
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post #28 of 39
3/1/04 at 9:15pm
Heh,

Congrats inthekeys! Keep us posted...

-Craig
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post #29 of 39
3/1/04 at 9:42pm
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Originally Posted by archalien
Sorry again 2 u too dude.

The new powerbook 12" comes with a dx9 geforecefx5200, while the 15 and 17 inch come w/ an ati 9600. which is all good, especially cuz the rest of the hardware rocks too! I know I had a 15" G4 powerbook.

The problem is that 95% (about) of games will never be released for apple, and the few that do never get the quality of optimization that their PC counterparts recieve. Im speaking from personal experience.
Umm, maybe you should think a bit before you post. The iBook comes with a Radeon 9200, and since we're talking about ultra-portables, the iBook is a more likely choice than a powerook. Yes, I was wrong about the 9000, but correcting somebody with incorrect info is pretty bad...
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post #30 of 39
3/1/04 at 9:44pm
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Originally Posted by archalien
sorry dude your wrong

To have a centrino moniker has absolutely nothing to do with the gfx solution.

The have a centrino all u need are 3 things....
1) intel 2100 wireless card, pentium m chip, and an 855 variant mb of which there are 3, 855gm, 855gme, and 855pm. the 855pm has a 4x agp allowing u to slap in any gfx card u want. And if you did any research instead of just mouthing off you would realize the many m460 owners are reporting battery life in excess of 4 hours which is better than or equivalent to the best times reported here from sentia owners.
Did you read his post? You're correcting him with the SAME info he posted.

He never said the gfx solution depended on anything, what he said was that it has to have "An 855 chip", which he says it doesn't have.
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post #31 of 39
3/1/04 at 9:46pm
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Originally Posted by archalien
barely 2 years, not cuz its bad, just that the whole cpu industry will be making major changes in the next few months- like moving to pci express and sata as the standard.
Ignore this guy, he's claiming that 3 year old PCs have trouble running instant messengers. The Sentia will still be a good PC in 2 years, capable of doing the same things it does now. You buy a Sentia for the kind of things that are not intensive, like word processing, spreadsheets, web surfing, and other business stuff. And that kind of stuff runs great on 5 year old PCs.
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post #32 of 39
3/1/04 at 10:53pm
Thread Starter 
Is there an advantage of waiting lets say 4 more months....would Alienware lower their prices...(doubful huh?)?
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post #33 of 39
3/1/04 at 11:36pm
no alienware i doubt will lower there prices, since new models will overtake these ones, but honestly wait 3-4 months there are going to ge Huge leaps in the computer industry. I mean crazy ones.
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post #34 of 39
3/2/04 at 12:18am
Qball speaks the truth. We're in the infancy of laptop/portable technologies.

What is coming around the corner in the way of wifi connectivity is enough to get my neck hairs dancing!

A new 802.11 with a 30 mile radius is already being tested in San Diego! What a great time to be a g33k eh!?

Not only will the hardware get better, but the standards with which we use said technologies will progress exponentially.

-Craig
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post #35 of 39
3/2/04 at 1:58am
Guspaz

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Umm, maybe you should think a bit before you post. The iBook comes with a Radeon 9200, and since we're talking about ultra-portables, the iBook is a more likely choice than a powerook. Yes, I was wrong about the 9000, but correcting somebody with incorrect info is pretty bad...
Maybe u should take your own advice as the 12" ibook and powerbook are very close in size and weight. And I didnt correct u with incorrect info- - all the info about gfx cards in powerbooks is correct.

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Umm, maybe you should think a bit before you post. The iBook comes with a Radeon 9200, and since we're talking about ultra-portables, the iBook is a more likely choice than a powerook. Yes, I was wrong about the 9000, but correcting somebody with incorrect info is pretty bad...
can anyone say super troll, read all the posts next time
He thought/assumed all centrinos have integrated gfx, I corrected that assumption.
get a life dood and quit trolling around me I was trying to be nice to you over the last day and express my oppinions (although they may disagree w/ yours) in a nice flame/troll -less manner. apparently u cant do the same.
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post #36 of 39
3/2/04 at 4:24am
*shrug*, what can I say. While the iBook might be ultra-portable and sport a decent GPU for an ultra-portable, there are two things holding it back, IMO:

1) It's a mac. Won't run most of the stuff I need
2) It's ssllooww compared to a modern PC.

I'll give Apple kudos on Mac OS X, nice job there, and their adoption of the G5 was pretty smart, though the Opteron would have been a better choice. But I just don't buy into their whole we-will-never-be-compatible garbage.
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post #37 of 39
3/2/04 at 4:42am
I think they swallowed that themselves, they just tried to do it quietly so none would realize they took a shot in the mouth......MS office on Mac/ virtual PC, Itunes on PC.
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post #38 of 39
3/2/04 at 10:25am
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Originally Posted by archalien
sorry dude your wrong

To have a centrino moniker has absolutely nothing to do with the gfx solution.

The have a centrino all u need are 3 things....
1) intel 2100 wireless card, pentium m chip, and an 855 variant mb of which there are 3, 855gm, 855gme, and 855pm. the 855pm has a 4x agp allowing u to slap in any gfx card u want. And if you did any research instead of just mouthing off you would realize the many m460 owners are reporting battery life in excess of 4 hours which is better than or equivalent to the best times reported here from sentia owners.
Im not sure where to begin. You should be more patient and read through at LEAST the part you quote

I said it has to have the 855 chip. The voodoo has the ati mobile integrated northbridge/gpu. Meaning they have their own chip to replace what the 855 does. If the laptop qualified as a "centrino", intel would pay them to label it as such (and they would comply of course).

A lot of companies do what voodoopc does. Dell for example, has pentium-M laptops, but does their own thing rather than use the 855.
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post #39 of 39
3/2/04 at 5:14pm
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Originally Posted by dugbug
Im not sure where to begin. You should be more patient and read through at LEAST the part you quote

I said it has to have the 855 chip. The voodoo has the ati mobile integrated northbridge/gpu. Meaning they have their own chip to replace what the 855 does. If the laptop qualified as a "centrino", intel would pay them to label it as such (and they would comply of course).

A lot of companies do what voodoopc does. Dell for example, has pentium-M laptops, but does their own thing rather than use the 855.
first: you (or voodoo)cant replace the north bridge- so I think you need to educate urself a little more. voodoo does not use a mobile integrated gpu(ala a integrated ati 9000) they use daughterboards to bridge the agp connection from the 855 northbidge to the ati 9600. Its the same 9600 as in alienware laptops and even 17" powerbooks. all three companies use different methods of installation.

Second: if u researched voodoo's site at all u would realize that all 3 of their pentium -m models can be cofigured and label as centrino, they just are not as a base configuration cuz voodoo offer a "b/g" wireless card on those models standard, but if u want to down grade to the intel "b" only they will do it and slap a centrino sticker on it.

Uh now this wasnt so hard look all 3 voodoo laptops with a centrino certification.
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