HP DV5220us vs. ACER5102WMLi

I would go with the HP out of those two choices. The Turion X2 is going to train power faster then the Core Duo, it has integrated graphics, and the hard drive is 4200rpm which is just slow period. I ordered an HP dv2000t this week. HP service and support should be just as good as Dell and Dell one of the most popular because of price. I would take another look at the E1505 if you want the best value for your money. There are plenty of pictures for them around on the web and you always have 21 days return.

DO NOT GO WITH DELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They are worse than HP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You will find yourself in Hell with your Dell!

visit www.ihatedell.net before you go for a Hell Insmoran E1505

You may be paying for the graphics accelerator in the HP, are you sure you need it?

1100 dollars for the acer??? I got it for 750 last week after instant rebate...

Check online you can get a better price on the Acer like from Buy.com $739.99
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.as...mp&dcaid=17379

n2, that one comes with half the memory and 20 gigs less hdd. And its only 10 bux cheaper. Wouldnt really call that a better price.

Tech Support Showdown
When something goes wrong, who delivers the best service? Our undercover agent found out.

by Michael S. Lasky
From July 2006 issue of LAPTOP magazine

How they rate:

http://laptopmag.com/Features/Tech-Support-Showdown.htm

Christina,

You said something about if ordering thru HP if there was a problem you'd have to ship it back. and mentioning the "wait".

On shipping it back, vs being able to swap it out at a local store... Yes there are pro's to that, but overall over the course of the unit's lifetime that is a non-issue. Most local stores are going to give you a max of 30 days. Anytime beyond that 30-days your going to have to sent it in for repair.

The exception to that is www.COSTCO.com.... COSTCO has a 180 day return window


You can return within that 180 days for any reason and get ALL your money back, ALL.

Costco has pre-built units (that you can purchase locally, touch and feel... Pre-builts would also come in handy if there was a problem and you wanted to exchange it on the spot... Remember ... 180-days

Costco also has CTO machines (Custom To Order)... order it and have it about 7 -10 days. ... Directly from the HP factory in CHINA.

Pro's of ordering a CTO machine is you get the LATEST "hardware" revision.... instead of getting a pre-built that may have a older hardware revision.... CTO units getting the latest revision of the parts.... Downside of a CTO order is you wait a few days... But you get what YOU want in the machine and get the latest hardware./and or software...

Order a CTO unit and their's a problem? Just walk into any Costco store and hand it back to them, get ALL your money back... anytime within 180 days of purchase... After that you'd have to contact the mfg for warranty issues.

You also have the option to contact HP directly, send it in for repair if you prefer anytime within that 180 day period.... It would be just like purchasing thru HP direct after the 21 day grace period expires, you could send it in for repair... if you wanted... But if you've got 180 days you'd be a fool to do so.


Two more issues, tips.

Always order a unit with the BASE RAM, and if you feel a need to upgrade order ram from www.newegg.com ALL the mfg's charge too much for their ram upgrades.... AND they KEEP the base ram (example 512mb) if you upgrade to 2 gig...
Charging you like $240 for the 2 gig "upgrade"... which means you're really paying $240 for 1.5 gig worth of ram!!!

You can buy 2 gig outright thru Newegg.com for about $160- $180... and KEEP the base installed ram as spares (very helpful if you have a RAM problem later on!!!)... You could also sell the base ram to re-coup some of your money.

Another issue I posted in response to your other thread(s) asking which is better, etc... Keep in mind the dv5000 series is just that, the dv5000 series.... It being split between the AMD chipped machines (Example dv5000z)..
OR the INTEL cpu'd machines, the (T) series.. (dv5000t)

All these dv5020, , etc are ALL being either a dv5000T, or Z. So keep that in mind when doing research.

Here's the link to the COSTCO.COM CTO page.... they also have pre-builts and units from other mfg's and with the 180-day return window it's a no-brainer on who to buy from. http://www.costco.com/CTO/HPLanding....opnav=&browse=


PS: You can buy the EW /insurance plans through (HP in this case) anytime as long as your unit is in warranty. Luckily for you Costco is now listing some of the EW warranty plans... Back in April 06 they were not, so I called the Executive Offices of Costco and had a in-depth conversation with a district manager locally in person. Nice to see my call(s) and efforts were not for nothing.


One last thing, here is a thread you need to read thru on the GPU's (video cards) used in notebooks these days. Before you buy ANYTHING, you need to read thru it , print it out, cut and paste into a document with your needs and concerns , take it with you when shopping to be SURE you get a machine with a GPU which will serve you best in the LONG-TERM.... Fast GPU being a plus in games, CAD drafting... and will be a issue in the new version of Windows (VISTA, with the Aero interface).... Allot of the low end cards will "say" they can run "Vista", when in fact they will... with all the eye candy turned OFF. With a FAST GPU you should be able to run with the eye-candy ON.

Mobile Graphics Card Comparison Chart

If you're looking for a gaming laptop, Or doing graphic intensive work the GPU should be your top priority. GPU is the "video card" for those of you who don't know.

Even if you're not into games, keep in mind that Windows itself "likes" a fast video card and the new Vista will be VERY graphics intensive.
For anything that is graphic intensive the GPU is more important than the CPU in most cases.

http://www.notebookforums.com/thread157799.html

Name some actual reasons why you would not go with a Dell laptop. I've had several Dell laptops and have sold several Dell laptops and i've been quite satisfied. I like the looks of some of the other brand laptops a little better but as far as performance and build quality goes i havn't seen an issue with Dell laptops. With Dell i can also easily get whatever part i need replaced shipped out to me. Dell will work with you until you are satisfied with the laptop. It's also easy to get free OS install CD's and whatever other little freebies you can think of by just going to the Dell chat and requesting them usually. You can also get a nice discount on upgradeable parts through Dell spare parts. I know back when the Go 7800 GTX was first released i got it very cheap through Dell compared to what they sold elsewhere. And Dell won't be easily beat when it comes to the components you get in the laptop for the price. Most Dell haters are that way from their lack of knowledge of how to get what they need from Dell.

excuse me???????????????????????????????

before you say i know nothing i am a programmer (C++) I program for banks,and IT Security.

I have built many computers and been with different computers.Dell is the worst,to get Sonic RecordNow i had to send in my Inspiron 6000!!!!!!!!!!

Oh to order a Inspiron 6000 and pay for it,but get a Inspiron 1300.

Build Quality how about it does not fall apart when you get it.

Read this,

http://www.smh.com.au/news/biztech/s...012601607.html

Yes, I agree, mods should move it back to general. In fact, I was on last night and I'm sure they posted it here and then moved it back to general. Maybe Acer own this forum! Come on guys, I like a fair fight. Put it back in general.

EDIT: I will probably be banned now!!! lol

Acer: 7
HP: 5