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Review: Z92T with Turion X2 TL-60

post #1 of 29
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Let my first say, that I'm not good at doing this stuff (reviews , english, reading...) so dont exept much.

Short review: Sgt.McRuff recomends this laptop.
Longer review:
I love this thing! I'm upgrading from a 1.5 year old laptop (Gateway m460) which was never ment to be gamin mechine. Even when it arived, it was lackin in some new games.
I started to look around for new computers Gateway NX860XL, Alienware m9700... after looking around I decided i wanted a Turion X2 mechine. Going against the crowd of Intel, and never owned a AMD befour. After some searching... Asus Z92T apeared on my screen, WOW ! Just what I was looking for!
Specs:
Turion x2 TL-60
2 GB 667mhz ram w/ dual support
100gb HDD at 7200 RPM(hitachi)
Nvidia go 7600
for only $1800 GenTech has the best prices I seen. It only took them 1 day to build and ship it out.

Packaging:
Normal brown box with a notebook bag and another box. Opening the other box you find the computer and all its wonders, taken everything out i found a problem...

OMG MY POWERCORD AINT AMERICAN! ITS A FRENCH POWER CORD!
Luckly my gateway had same type of cord, plugged it in(Hoped nothing happend) it was all fine.
Asus sent out some boxes with french power cords and offering to send people who got them new 1's, so if i ever go to france i wont need to get an adparter.

First Impresions:
This computer is a beast, it will eat the compition! Really! My Gateway m460 was eaten.



Anyways... Its fast! Everything goes so much quicker, i dont know how to describe it in words. Now I'm used to Gateways touch pads (which in my oppion are the best) I had to do some work to move my finger on the touchpad. I got used to it after 1 hour of using the touch pad. Speakers are very good for a laptop, but they can get muffled if on your lap. Keyboard is basicly the same as my last 2 laptops, other than Fn+ keys, no trouble adjusting. The web cam is nice little addtion, but it dosn't come with any software that allows you to take pictures, and movies. Only able to view what it shows, and even Printscreen dosnt work.
Glossy screen is just a plesure to look at, colors seem to be more well.. colorfull! Reflects are hard to notice when at max bright.(unless its a black screen) Viewing angles are great, it might dark out a bit form sides or below/above, but its still good enough that i could browse intrent like that.

Size/other:
Its bigger than my old laptop but its a bit lighter. I dont consider this to be a very big laptop but its not a small 1 either, i got for med-large. Easy to carry around. I dont notice it in my backpack, but i also got 15-20 pounds of other school junk in there.

The latches keep the screen nice and secure, push out on each one and it opens the screen.
It dosnt look as bad as I orginal thought, looks much better in person than the pictures.

Multi-tasking:
installing Nort internet security, 3D Mark 06, Steam with hl2,deathmatch... notebook control, itunes, ad-ware, couple other small things. Even with nortan doing its full system scan befor it finishes installing, and me having addtional 6 windows opening to adjust my settins, it was having no trouble. Swiched from window to window, with no slow down.

Gaming:
Half-Life 2: Loast coast: Video options MAXED OUT: Stress test: 43.2 FPS
Counter-Strike: Source:Video options MAXED OUT: Stress Test: 79.8 FPS

Battlefeild 2: MAXED settings runs silky smove with a 64 multiplayer.(need to get FPS)

Obilvion: Nagitive resolution(1280X800)/textures high/ HDR ON/ No AA/all settings on, exept tree,grass shadows off/view distance 100%/ Gras,tree fade 30+/-%/item objects fade 50+/-%: FPS: outdoors 25-40, indoors 40-65.
Overclocking my card to 500/407(stock 450/400) allowed me to turn grass tree fading to 50%.FPS: outdoors 23-50, indoors 50-70
I'm very pleased that my card can make oblvion run high settings. Only time i think that FPS was below to unplayable to me was next to an oblvion gate. I would get 12 FPS next to a oblvion gate, but going 10feet away puts my FPS back to playable levels. I know most people cant stand 25FPS but i'm not 1 of them.
(FPS=Frame Per Second)

Battery life:
Test 1: Full bright, wiresless on, speakers max, Watching movies on youtube: 2h 37mins. Aint bad considering when watching movies the prossesor got to some work.
Test 2: Med bright, Wireless off, Speakers max, Wierd lan, basic internet: 4h 9mins. Now That surpised me, i was expeting 3h 20mins.

Battery is good for an 8-cell, i like having the most battery life i can, i would love to get a 12 cell but there not offered right now. The graphic card goes in 2D settings when nothing intesnive is going on(when on battery). Now i can under clock those 2D settings to get more life, but how much more i havnt tested.
(still go to do underclock battery life test and gaming on battery)

Benchmarks:
Stock drivers, only started up and downloaded 3dmark06, 05.




After installing new drivers(91.37):




Overclocking core 486/mem 408 (stock 450/400) Havent bothered to much with overclocking but i do know that 409 for memory is the max, or
I beilve its just i got a card that dosnt like memory overclocking. Core clock i was upto 527 which is stable but limit, 530 works, but i saw 2 artafacts while doing 3Dmakr 06, even thow it did atitool artafact tool for 25+mins with no problems.





Pictures:







Forgot my old notebook hates ITunes

LL
post #2 of 29
nice review!
post #3 of 29
I knew I should have waited for the Turion X2s
post #4 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by Asoulintime1982
I knew I should have waited for the Turion X2s

What's up, haven't see you for a while, we were having fun with Z92T.
post #5 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by GenTechPC
What's up, haven't see you for a while, we were having fun with Z92T.

Ya I know I been busy with my Volkswagen stuff. How is the Z92T. It looks alot better than my Z92K which I rarly use anymore anyway. Since I have a Compaq Armada M300 which work a lot better in my like VWs than the giant Z92K. I only have one issue with my M300 its an Intel LOL.
post #6 of 29
superkdog, could you do me a favor please? Would you try sciencemark and let me know how those benches turn out? Thanks.
post #7 of 29
Thread Starter 
Sure can you post a link to where i could download sciencemark, my google searches come to same URL wich seems to of changed, like the person forgot to regrister the URL.

Edit: Download form majorgeeks.com its not running the benchmarks, i dont know why...
post #8 of 29
Oh I forgot to mention, that if you go into my computer and click on the webacma in there you should beable to use windows to take pictures and movies. At least that how it works on my Z92K
post #9 of 29
Hmmmmmmmmmmm...that's strange. Here's the german page which appears to be working. Thanks for doing this for me.
http://www.sciencemark.de/download.html
post #10 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by Asoulintime1982
Oh I forgot to mention, that if you go into my computer and click on the webacma in there you should beable to use windows to take pictures and movies. At least that how it works on my Z92K

Yeah that or, go to C:\\Windows\\BisonCam folder and create a shortcut from LiveCam.exe.
post #11 of 29
Thread Starter 
Niether of those work, I only get got an option for cameras and scanners, when i click on it it comes to a thing saying web cam, well its black.
There is no bisoncam on my computer.
Only way i can use it is click on it in attach devices but i cant take pictures or do anything.
post #12 of 29
Looking at your gateway, I can definitely empathize on the large blemish you get on the left palm rest. I had an m680 which was the predecessor, pretty much the same thing, to the nx850xl. The build quality was horrible with flex everywhere and the lid scratched like a masochist. I have a few questions I hope you can clarify.

1. Did you actually time your battery life with a watch or just randomly hovered over the battery icon? Many reviews don't specify this and the meter itself is far from accurate and changes constantly. An actual timed test would be the most informative. I am very incredulous of your 4+ hour battery life as many reviews state the core duos as having better battery life and they only get 3.5 hours at the most.

2. How is the overall heat? Do you feel this nasty heat wave convecting towards you while you type or use the laptop? How warm do the palmrests get? Comparable to your gateway or no? What about the other parts, keyboard, touchpad, etc,? Does it get hot when you put it on your lap for an extended period?

3. How scratch prone is the lid? This is how I gauge build quality, as I don't care about "ripples". My old gateway was scratched while just sitting on a desk and me never moving it. It was like magic. My current fujitsu scratches a little less, with less deep scratches. My old z70va didn't scratch period and I don't really think it is capable of being scratched unless you purposely scrape it hard against something.
post #13 of 29
Thread Starter 
Grrr this will be 3rd time i tried to post with answers...

1. Timing was done using a timer set to 4 hours. (and also marking time i started) But of course the computer was set to max life.

2. heat is just fine. all heat cuasing parts are at the top of the computer.(cpu, gpu,ram, hard drive) only parts that get a little warm would be were the cpu is. Theres a heat pad on the casing, which probly why its a little warm there. Also it sucks air threw the keyboard so u cant realy block air intake when on your lap.

3. i havnt gotten any scratches yet. its been going threw 1 week of school. Its way better than gateways coating.
post #14 of 29
How did you install the nvidia 91.37 drivers? Whenever I try to do it, it says that the driver is not compatible with my current hardware.
post #15 of 29
Thread Starter 
i unstalled the drivers it came then restarted in safe mode installed the new 91.37 driver. I didnt have any problems, so i didnt do anything special.
post #16 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by pencilcase
How did you install the nvidia 91.37 drivers? Whenever I try to do it, it says that the driver is not compatible with my current hardware.
you need a modified .inf file for mobile GPUs. You can get one from www.laptopvideo2go.com
post #17 of 29
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Just a quick pcmark 05 test, havnt bothered with it much.
post #18 of 29
Hey, new poster but I have done some reading here. This thread is of particular interest to me as I have oredered the ASUS Z92T with the TL-60 and 1gb of ram. I didn't even realize until after I paid for it that the hard drive (80gb at 7200 RPM ) is PATA instead of SATA. I guess I assumed all the new laptops used serial technology. So my question is a. can I install a SATA hard drive in it and b. is it even worth it if I can, or would the gains be minimal? Also superkdog, hows that screen for watching movies on? thanks
post #19 of 29
I don't think you will be able to put a sata drive in there b/c if it has pata they probably didn't include any sata ports (my guess is the chipset doesn't support sata yet). You bring up a good point, and there probably isn't much of a difference in performance if any between pata and sata laptop drives (40-50MB read speeds are only using half of the pata bus).
post #20 of 29
Thread Starter 
No laptop hard drive can out performe a Pata port. HDD can do 40-50mbps PATA can do 100mbps and SATA can do 150mbps. Only reason you would want Sata is so you can do raid, but 1 hard drive means thats pointless. Also windows XP dosnt come standered with sata drivers so you would have to do some extra work to installe windows.

I'll watch some DVDs on it tonight, as I got 50 inch ReLCD at home so i havnt done to much with movies. But the screen is very nice i havnt had any problems, thow like all glossy screens the sun is the enemy.
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