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post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Hey all, I've got a dilemma. My landlord wants me to set up this house I'm living in for a wireless network when I leave. I'm playing it optimistically right now and thinking that there's a way to get a solid network despite the large amount of walls in this place, but I'm trying to decide what the best router would be for the environment. The house is 3 stories, about a hundred years old or so. I bet the farthest a signal would have to travel would be around 30m (rough guess) through two floors and some walls. He also wants to go 802.11g.

So the question is, what's the fab router for this setup? I've got it narrowed down to Linksys, D-Link, and Netgear (their respective G models with a built in 4-port switch), but all the reviews from other people just go in circles; i.e., one person likes D-Link over Linksys, another likes Netgear of D-Link, and every other combination, so there's no clear favorite. I'm guessing there won't be any need for a lot of crazy options, since 1) I'll be gone after I set this up, and I'll just set up a standard WEP something and teach the landlord how to use it, and 2) the next tenents will probably be girls who don't know anything besides that they click on the E and it takes them to their Yahoo mail.

This isn't to say that girls are inherently anti-tech, of course. Like the other day, I saw some profile of a girl named Geekette, and she had a pic of her, and she was talking about crazy Linux stuff, and she was dang hot. Tech chicks are so hot. Unless they're not hot, then they're just nerds like the rest of us. I'll stop.
post #2 of 17
If he's paying for it, go Proxim...it's higher quality and unfortunately higher priced.
post #3 of 17
I've had both NetGear and D-Link, I replaced the NetGear with the D-Link. I think that indicates my preference. I have the D-Link Xtreme G DI-624 and the DWL-G650. They are fantastic. Installation was quick (about 45 minutes, including reading everything), easy (I did nothing but make the connections, insert the CD and click on Next and Finish) and extremely straightforward (there were no questions whatsoever). The utility that goes with it is very understandable and a snap to use. I can truly say that virtually anybody could install and maintain this system. I run two computers and three printers on my system, using both the wired and wireless ports. I currently am using the left-over NetGear wireless and wired print servers and the D-Link is having no problems working with them. I really appreciate that.

I would ask about that distance, 30 meters is a long ways, close to 100'. If you put the router in the middle, that would make for one very large house, even if it was one story. Three stories would be a really big place. However, if that's a good number, and/or the walls are heavy masonry, you might want to consider adding one or two additional access points out at the edges to make sure your coverage is complete.

I assume the cost isn't yours, but someone will appreciate there is both a good package deal on the pair as well as a $20 rebate on each making it even better.

I highly recommend the equipment. It was a good deal, it was a snap to install and configure, it has performed flawless ever since and the speed and connection is consistently as good as it could get.
post #4 of 17
Thread Starter 
Cool, thanks for the replies! The current setup has our cable modem at one far end of the house, and a client down a floor and on the other side of the house (about 3 bedroom-lengths and a floor). I'll talk it over with the boss. Thanks again!
post #5 of 17
Take a look at some of the stuff made by senao (senao.com), they seem to be a lesser known company but make some great products. most of their gear is higher power and higher sensitivity which is good for distance and walls.

Also something to consider is an external antenna, something with a decent gain can get you some more distance.
post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 
External antenna, eh? What might be an example of this? (I've just never heard of such a thing.)

Senao looks cool, too, though they don't make a wireless-g router with a switch. I suppose I could piggyback it to an existing LAN switch, couldn't I?
post #7 of 17
The additional power spec'd by Senao may not be applicable in the US, you should check before you buy.


As for the switching, if you have a router, there's no point in replacing it. Just get an access point (AP) and connect it to the router you have. You could run a cable to a second AP at the other end of the house. I am not sure if they have repeaters for wireless, stations that receive the signal, boost and retransmit it. That would save you from having to run the cable. You might also look at getting the cable company to relocate their line closer to the middle of the house. I had them add an extra 30' on the cable and then give me a 20' connection cable to connect with inside.
post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 
Whoa, we're all over the place here, Marquisdarquis (whoa, you know, for a couple of months, I thought your name was MarquisDaquiris. . . I never read it close enough. Sorry!). Anyway, I just have a switch, not a router. I built a server computer to run the network. And actually, the cable comes in right on the first floor in the middle of the floorplan. We just ran a hundred feet up through the walls on our own to get it where it is (because I live in the top section, and the landlord lives below, and I'm the CTO of this operation). So maybe we should just set everything up down below and see how it goes from there.

I think I'm just going to have to get a router and try some stuff out. I'm sure it will be easier once I actually start crawling around and figuring things out in real life. Thanks for all the input, kids!
post #9 of 17
What me worry what you think the name is? As long as you can figure out how to get a message to me, I couldn't care less. Actually, it's supposed to be MarquisD'Arquis, but I couldn't get the apostrophe working or something, it was a while back and I don't remember.

Anyway, what are you meaning by "just a switch"?
Are you saying you don't have anything that can act as a router?
If so, then get a wireless router with wire ports. I recommend the D-Link DI-624 with Xtreme G. It works great, its easy to install, and easy to work with. On sale too with a nice little rebate for it and the cards.

But yeah, if you can put the modem and router at the center of the building, that's better, plus I notice its not quite as good going down as sideways and up. So having it lower would be better than having it higher. If, with the heavy walls, the signal isn't making it, just use the cable you have run already (it is Cat 5, isn't it?) and install an access point upstairs. That should take care of the whole house.
post #10 of 17
I'd put a wireless access point on each floor and have each user connect via the access points.
post #11 of 17
Are you suggesting to go wireless floor-to-floor then connect to the access points via cable? Well, it's one way to go at it. Not what I would suggest. It's pretty easy to run one cable straight up. Or run them as repeaters which does apparently work. Do a Google. Plus the main purpose for doing wireless is to have the means to wander about as you like without any wires. Nice to be able to take the notebook into the john, out on the deck, into the bedroom, have it there on the breakfast bar.
post #12 of 17
Thread Starter 
Yeah, MD, I've got an 8-port switch that I hooked up all the LAN cables to (every room has an ethernet port, basically), then that goes to a server (just a computer running 2000 and ICS), which goes back through the cable modem and out into the world. And yes, the whole idea was to figure out what the best wireless router was for my needs, and I think the D-Link will work. I just gotta get my hands on one and see how it goes. I'm hoping to keep access points to a minimum, too, but one wouldn't be too bad, I guess. If needed, I'll do it.
post #13 of 17
Yea, i think you should go with Marq's idea. I'd get a wireless access point on the top and bottom floors and have the actual router in the middle.
post #14 of 17
Well, check out http://www.buy.com/retail/product.as...4&loc=101&sp=1

Xtreme G router and one card for slightly more than the router alone. Combined with http://ak.buy.com/buy_assets/retail/...ndleRebate.pdf
the cost is ridiculous. There's even free shipping. But the rebate is only good to the end of the month.
post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by MARQUISDARQUIS
Well, check out http://www.buy.com/retail/product.as...4&loc=101&sp=1

Xtreme G router and one card for slightly more than the router alone. Combined with http://ak.buy.com/buy_assets/retail/...ndleRebate.pdf
the cost is ridiculous. There's even free shipping. But the rebate is only good to the end of the month.
Just placed an order for this bundle with Buy.com. Great price.
post #16 of 17
Thread Starter 
Dang, that is a good score! Thanks!
post #17 of 17
check the latest pc magazines alot are talking about wireless routers and access points.......i saw two good reviews on netgear vs dlink and linksys.......now im not saying what these magazines say is the bible or anything but one particular magazine had a detailed review of all three and they seemed to like the netgear.
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