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post #21 of 98
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Originally Posted by souljahsky
Got my m9700 last friday, and sent it back this past friday...

First...a dead pixel on the monitor which couldn't be fixed on site (Dell can...and did for me in the past...why not Alienware?) They wanted me to send it back with a 2 week lead time on repair. LMAO.

I've seen AW send a tech to replace lcd's on site, but they won't replace a screen for a single dead pixel on site or in the depot... Something smells funny. Perhaps they asked you to send the computer back due to your other issues.

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Second...freezing up at random times while playing games, and also while shutting down. Only had a successful shutdown 60-70% of the time.

That shouldn't happen. What software did you load, and did you run windows update? Usually with these kinds of issues it's a corrupt OS.

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Third...shipped to me without a TV tuner. I thought it was standard, who knew you had to click XP Media Center edition for the option to even show up. Right on the main page of the laptop it says "Integrated TV Tuner".

Funny none of the rest of us had trouble figuring it out... Alienware only supports the tuner with MCE currently.

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After calling Alienware and talking to a supervisor who didn't know that it wasn't standard, as well as waiting on the phone for 15-20mins, he tells me the scoop..."you have to select media center edition...i didn't know either." Thats good that the supervisors know a lot about what they're selling.

I'm sure there are some things tech support doesn't know about sales configurations with new lines until they deal with them for a while. He's in support, not sales.

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By the way, his name was Nick and I have most of the conversation recorded. Once I told him I was recording, he got a lot nicer, and told me to stop or he would have to disconnect the call...LOL.

Mr. NSA wiretap guy huh? Do you regularly record your conversations? Do you video tape the people at McDonald's too, so you can be sure they don't spit in your fries?

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Fifth...The subwoofer rattled the crappy plastic. I tried to find a way to turn it off, but I couldn't via windows nor the BIOS. During racing games it made a loud HUMMMMMM that sucked so bad it was either headphones, or disabling the sound altogether.

Well there's your problem, you ordered the crappy plastic. The normal plastic works great.

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Sixth...Airgo MIMO adapter had quite good range, but lagged way behind even my USB Linksys adapter when it came to throughput...maybe they had MIMO and not 11g in mind???

Do you have a MIMO router? If not the card has few benefits over the standard card. There are multiple antennas on the card though, so that explains the range. g band will run up to 54Mbps while MIMO card + MIMO router can do better than 108Mbps. There's no reason to get the MIMO card if you don't have a MIMO router. Why did you buy a MIMO card if you don't have a MIMO router?

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Seventh...the 15% restocking fee. Quite a fee, but way worth it to never have to deal with Alienware, they're shoddy support, flimsy plastic laptops, and a $5000 laptop that freezes up...

Wow, you think AW laptops are flimsy plastic, and you're going to get a Dell? I have a feeling you're exagerating everything here, and you're full of beans. You can't even configure a $5000 m9700.

I'll continue to humor you though...

Alienware charges the restocking fee to people that don't allow them to address any issues regarding hardware failure, damage in shipping, or workmanship. I've seen a few cases where the restocking fee wasn't charged to customers that had multiple issues like you did when they returned the system. If AW isn't able to repair the system within a reasonable amount of attempts they'll replace the system with a new one or they may give a full refund without the restocking fee.

You think it's worth it though, so there's no issue here. I wouldn't let a company that delivered a system with multiple issues keep any of my money, but I've owned five Alienware systems and I've never had any of the issues you claim to have experienced.

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Eighth...The alien respawn CD did NOT work whatsoever. After ghosting the machine following the instructions in the manual, it came to the windows logon screen saying "windows could not access the registry, windows is restarting." Hmmm I said, and tried ghosting again, coming to the same screen...At that point I almost bursted out laughing that a company could make such a unusable product for such a high price...I had to install windows from the Windows Reinstallation Disk, and was left with an operable windows installation, but no drivers or anything. At that point, I packed her up and shipped her out..."What a crappy laptop I thought as it rode off into the sunset...Dude, I'm getting a Dell...What was I thinking!!!"

That would be a pisser if the respawn was borked. But why did you go through the process of reloading windows and not load the drivers? They're on in one place on AW's support download site and it's easy. Why wouldn't you be curious enough to see if it fixed the problem after all that work?

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I would definatly NOT recommend this laptop to anyone, nor would I recommend any system from Alienware due to the construction, support, and functionality issues.

I own four desktops from Alienware, and my m9700 that's on the way will be AW #6 for me. They've all been exceptionally well built and performed exceptionally. While I can understand your frustration if in fact you're telling the truth, it always amazes me that people like you think AW could get to $250 million in sales a year if they're as bad as you say they are...

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The only positive thing about this notebook is the gaming...when it worked. It looked beautiful. But so does an XBox hooked up to a nice screen at 1/5th of the cost...

Well, that's what it was designed for... I can't believe you didn't finish reloading windows to see if that resolved the issues you had... Then again if all you expect out of a gaming system is an XBox connected to a cheap tv, you probably shouldn't have bought one in the first place.


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Maybe I got a lemon, or maybe the FedEx guy kicked it out of the truck. Either way, the support sucked and the laptop didn't work as suggested. Please contact me directly for any other insight into Alienware's crappy rebranding of Sager notebooks.

Souljahsky

Maybe you're full of beans, maybe not, but to absorb a restocking fee if what you say is true without a fight is pretty pitiful.

And Sager doesn't sell the m9700 platform there sparky...
post #22 of 98
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Originally Posted by souljahsky
I just wanted to post it to the internet like the AOL one I'm sure you've heard. I had quite a few hilarious/bad experiences with alienware support in the calls before, so i figured I could get a few laughs out of this one.

Of course I didn't expect a full refund, I was just stating that it cost me $700 just to send it back. I should have had the screen replaced and then sent it back...

I contacted Alienware support numerous times and only spoke with uninformed people...even of their own products. I know...it seemed odd to me to.

AOL? Oh boy...
post #23 of 98
No person in their right mind is going to let some company keep $700+ dollars for free.

This story smells of something.
post #24 of 98
No person in their right mind is going to let some company keep $700+ dollars for free.

This story smells of something.
post #25 of 98
OK, this is my first post. I was so confused I actually registered on here just to get clarification.

I don't know how to quote soul, but it seems as if you are extremely unhappy with Alienware's customer service and wish they were more like Dell's because Dell is amazing.

Dell acquired Alienware months ago (March)...

Alienware is continuing business as usual as it pertains to the company's strengths (marketing and product strategies); however, they have already begun assimilating the business practices that make Dell so cost-efficient. This includes outsourcing their customer service...

I don't see what would lead you to believe when you call into "Alienware," you are not talking to someone sitting next to the person you're talking to while on the phone with "Dell"

I don't own an Alienware yet, but I will when my 5750 arrives on Wednesday. I'm sorry that your experience was bad and I hope I do not go through something similar. But when reading the reviews and doing research for months, it seems as though an exceptionally high percentage of Alienware users are more than happy.

Rather than laughing at your own misfortune and swearing vengeance you could have tried searching for a reasonable solution from Alienware without threatening.
post #26 of 98
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Originally Posted by souljahsky
I just wanted to post it to the internet like the AOL one I'm sure you've heard. I had quite a few hilarious/bad experiences with alienware support in the calls before, so i figured I could get a few laughs out of this one.

Of course I didn't expect a full refund, I was just stating that it cost me $700 just to send it back. I should have had the screen replaced and then sent it back...

I contacted Alienware support numerous times and only spoke with uninformed people...even of their own products. I know...it seemed odd to me to.

AOL? Oh boy...

If you had all these issues, why wouldn't you expect a full refund? And why wouldn't you load the drivers and see if the OS was corrupt? If the windows install fixed it, you'd just have the respawn and the pixel issue, and Alienware would have burned you another respawn cd while they had your unit to replace the screen.

This story just doesn't make any sense.

We had another guy like you recently that mumbled about this and that and returned his system and absorbed the restocking fee, then bought a Dell. Turns out he ordered more machine than he wanted or needed so ate the restocking fee to get some money back.

He thought it was funny too, but people that deal with these issues are usually angry.
post #27 of 98
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Originally Posted by souljahsky
I just wanted to post it to the internet like the AOL one I'm sure you've heard. I had quite a few hilarious/bad experiences with alienware support in the calls before, so i figured I could get a few laughs out of this one.

Of course I didn't expect a full refund, I was just stating that it cost me $700 just to send it back. I should have had the screen replaced and then sent it back...

I contacted Alienware support numerous times and only spoke with uninformed people...even of their own products. I know...it seemed odd to me to.

AOL? Oh boy...

If you had all these issues, why wouldn't you expect a full refund? And why wouldn't you load the drivers and see if the OS was corrupt? If the windows install fixed it, you'd just have the respawn and the pixel issue, and Alienware would have burned you another respawn cd while they had your unit to replace the screen.

This story just doesn't make any sense.

We had another guy like you recently that mumbled about this and that and returned his system and absorbed the restocking fee, came here to bash Alienware and then bought a Dell. Turns out he ordered more machine than he wanted or needed so ate the restocking fee to get some money back.

He thought it was funny too, but people that deal with these issues are usually angry. Why are you so chippy?
post #28 of 98
I read this thread earlier in the day, and I must say I would feel bad if all else failed. The 15% restocking fee is usually taken when the system is returned to the company in great working condition: "I don't want it, and I want my money back - 15%."

That above scenario is understandable, however, if the system has been malfunctioning from the start the company, more often than not, will refund the money at 100% of your cost (including shipping).

Anytime you have an issue that seems to require a second opinion ask for an imediate supervisor or have someone that is capable of handling your issue give you a call. Don't just hand off $700 as a result of impatiance and lack of self-control.

My 2 cents
post #29 of 98
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Originally Posted by souljahsky
Of course I didn't expect a full refund, I was just stating that it cost me $700 just to send it back. I should have had the screen replaced and then sent it back...

Yet you put it in your list of reasons not to buy alienware, implying that the restoking fee is bad...

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Originally Posted by souljahsky
It sounds like you work for Alienware or something...???

I'm not surprised that they send a Troll out to the forums/newsgroups to clear/clean up what the end users have to say about them.

PITIFUL

Negative Alienware Advocate For Life
SoulJahSky

Lesson learned: leave all kindness out of posts...
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Originally Posted by unit_5
Sorry about your bad experience
...to avoid bs.
post #30 of 98
Reading this would almost be worrying to anyone who recently bought a m9700, except most of the issues are stated in some part of the Alienware webpage or discussed in these forums. Like the dead pixel policy. Mine has a single dead pixel (red, if anyone cares) but the dead pixel policy clearly states it has to be 1 in the middle or 2 anywhere else, if I remember right. I've also heard mention of the TV tuner not being included with any config other than XP MCE, so I didn't expect it when I ordered mine with XP Pro. Same deal with the MIMO card. After reading discussions about how MIMO is only good for MIMO routers, I opted for the plain jane version. One would think that with a little research, $700 could've been saved. Oh, and maybe I'm lucky but it seems my setup came with several CDs including a driver disc and one for Nero. Don't know for sure if my Respawn CD works or not and I hope I never have to find out. But I bet if you would've asked nicely, a new one could be made.

And seriously, how can a subwoofer THIS tiny rattle anything?
post #31 of 98
Unfortunately, there will always be people who have one bad experience and never want to know about that company again.

I dont remember the last time i bougth any product which didnt have a defect. I find Sony Vaio laptops to be pretty poorly made and i speak from experience.

My Alienware M5500 had a dodgy motherboard, but was replaced and its all sweet. I wont hide that fact. But this can happen with any brand laptop. Weve had alot of brands, 3 models of Samung, 2 models of Sony, 2 of Acer, 2 of HP, i cant think of any of those which didnt come with some sort of problem. One of the samsungs integrated wifi would bring the system to a hault, i had to disable the hardware and use a USB dongle and then worked fine! Hey, even the Acer one came with a non-genuine WindowsXP key from the factory, well at least microsoft doesnt like it anyway.

So yeah, you might have a dodgy machine, but basically, sh!t happens. My mum had a BMW 5-series for years, the engine would cut out randomly and they could never find the problem. A friend got a brand new jaguar, its had problems from day 1 and spent more time in the shop than at his home.

The m9700 is a beautiful machine and if i needed a desktop replacement, i would definitely not hesitate to get this machine, even after reading the problems you had.

Give it another chance and dont automatically assume Dell is any better, you might get a Dell machine with a battery that will melt a hole in your desk, or lap even! Or even worse, you could get a "Low voltage" warning whenever you boot up due to faulty CMOS batteries... LOL Sh!t happens!
post #32 of 98
I don't think people should be blaming the company for their ignorance, I mean c'mon it did not say the tv tuner comes standard what so ever.

About the respawn issue, my respawn CD did not work either, I just had to send it back and they gave me a refund. Guess its back to the ole windows reformat CD for me. I don't recommend getting the respawn CD...

$700 just to give something back, your either rich,stupid or both. GG
post #33 of 98
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Originally Posted by Chodorovski
wow, i recently checked up on my order and changed the intel core duo on it to a core 2 duo and upgraded the speed and the sales rep. i talked to could not have been nicer and more intelligent. i guess its just luck of the draw with tech support

Duh...it was a sales guy.

your smart!!!
post #34 of 98
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
I've seen AW send a tech to replace lcd's on site, but they won't replace a screen for a single dead pixel on site or in the depot... Something smells funny. Perhaps they asked you to send the computer back due to your other issues.

No...this was before the other issues!!! And yes, the pixel was in the center.


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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
That shouldn't happen. What software did you load, and did you run windows update? Usually with these kinds of issues it's a corrupt OS.

Just FlatOut 2 that I purchased at Best Buy.

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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
Funny none of the rest of us had trouble figuring it out... Alienware only supports the tuner with MCE currently.

Can you show me where it says that on the site?

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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
I'm sure there are some things tech support doesn't know about sales configurations with new lines until they deal with them for a while. He's in support, not sales.

He was a supervisor for christ sakes...a dumb one at that.

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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
Mr. NSA wiretap guy huh? Do you regularly record your conversations? Do you video tape the people at McDonald's too, so you can be sure they don't spit in your fries?

My cell phone can record any conversation at the click of a button so it makes it pretty easy...also, I've posted it to a few blogs and gotten some laughs. Obviously this isn't the place to post it though, as the OPs seem to like removing posts here.

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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
Well there's your problem, you ordered the crappy plastic. The normal plastic works great.

Damn I'm an idiot...why didn't I say something.

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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
Do you have a MIMO router? If not the card has few benefits over the standard card. There are multiple antennas on the card though, so that explains the range. g band will run up to 54Mbps while MIMO card + MIMO router can do better than 108Mbps. There's no reason to get the MIMO card if you don't have a MIMO router. Why did you buy a MIMO card if you don't have a MIMO router?

No I don't have a MIMO router, but I expected the 11g to work at least as well as a USB Linksys adapter...DON'T YOU THINK??????

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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
Wow, you think AW laptops are flimsy plastic, and you're going to get a Dell? I have a feeling you're exagerating everything here, and you're full of beans. You can't even configure a $5000 m9700.

I'm sorry....$4,750...hahahahaha, mr nitpicker

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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
I'll continue to humor you though...

Alienware charges the restocking fee to people that don't allow them to address any issues regarding hardware failure, damage in shipping, or workmanship. I've seen a few cases where the restocking fee wasn't charged to customers that had multiple issues like you did when they returned the system. If AW isn't able to repair the system within a reasonable amount of attempts they'll replace the system with a new one or they may give a full refund without the restocking fee.

You think it's worth it though, so there's no issue here. I wouldn't let a company that delivered a system with multiple issues keep any of my money, but I've owned five Alienware systems and I've never had any of the issues you claim to have experienced.

I'M NOT A POOR BASTARD LIKE YOU GUYS ARE...SPENDING HOURS ON THE PHONE TO GET YOUR BRAND NEW LAPTOP TO WORK CUZ YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO SEND IT BACK...I THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH $700 TO NEVER HAVE TO CALL, LISTEN, OR SEE ALIENWARE AGAIN!!!


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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
That would be a pisser if the respawn was borked. But why did you go through the process of reloading windows and not load the drivers? They're on in one place on AW's support download site and it's easy. Why wouldn't you be curious enough to see if it fixed the problem after all that work?

I had already setup the RMA at that point, I was just low-level formatting to get all of the data off. After that I wanted to at least send it back to them with an OS installed. Once the Respawn DVD didn't work, i just reloaded windows and threw it in a box. Reinstalling windows can't fix crappy plastic, a dead pixel, a slow NIC, bad tech support, as well as a few other things.

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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
I own four desktops from Alienware, and my m9700 that's on the way will be AW #6 for me. They've all been exceptionally well built and performed exceptionally. While I can understand your frustration if in fact you're telling the truth, it always amazes me that people like you think AW could get to $250 million in sales a year if they're as bad as you say they are...

You must not know what a good computer is...or you fall in with the rest of the general population and think the products you buy are better because you paid more for them.

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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
Well, that's what it was designed for... I can't believe you didn't finish reloading windows to see if that resolved the issues you had... Then again if all you expect out of a gaming system is an XBox connected to a cheap tv, you probably shouldn't have bought one in the first place.

I wanted it for the Gaming and Video editing, as well as number crunching. All it did was game well...sorta, thats why i compared it to an Xbox. Wouldn't you agree?

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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
Maybe you're full of beans, maybe not, but to absorb a restocking fee if what you say is true without a fight is pretty pitiful.

Only if your poor...

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Originally Posted by Hammerhead
And Sager doesn't sell the m9700 platform there sparky...

I'm sorry...they sell the exact same thing without the light up alien head that is obviously marketed to little kids. I think my brother called it a "Ghetto Wannabe Laptop" /"Wigger Laptop". hahahaha...thats the real reason I sent it back, my brother made fun of me!!! ROFL.
post #35 of 98
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Originally Posted by pepsirules2k
I read this thread earlier in the day, and I must say I would feel bad if all else failed. The 15% restocking fee is usually taken when the system is returned to the company in great working condition: "I don't want it, and I want my money back - 15%."

That above scenario is understandable, however, if the system has been malfunctioning from the start the company, more often than not, will refund the money at 100% of your cost (including shipping).

Anytime you have an issue that seems to require a second opinion ask for an imediate supervisor or have someone that is capable of handling your issue give you a call. Don't just hand off $700 as a result of impatiance and lack of self-control.

My 2 cents

Your missing one large aspect...$700 is 2 hours of my time. I can't afford to spend time on the phone with some dumb ass computer company, nor do I want to subject my assistant to it either!!!
post #36 of 98
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Originally Posted by souljahsky
Your missing one large aspect...$700 is 2 hours of my time. I can't afford to spend time on the phone with some dumb ass computer company, nor do I want to subject my assistant to it either!!!

Wow if you think $700 is worth 2 hours of your time why are you bitching over a $4500 laptop. $4500!!! thats only 13 hours of your time!!!!

You should buy one of these http://www.voodoopc.com/system/quote...productID=1090

Since money isnt a problem for you
post #37 of 98
OK OK I bought my notebook puter from AW and yes I had a rough time and yes if hadn't had a big discount I would have cancelled the order b4 I got it and yes when it came it had operating system build problems and their laughable tech support told me to re-install xp (not a 5 min job). But remember this AW puters are not for beginers or easyriders they are for the geeks and freaks who will go the extra mile to care for their puter. My advise is to bug AW support till it works, send it back have em fix, when you finally have it working enjoy it, it won't take forever to sort this out! lets face it if you want Dell to come out and fix it on site then buy a Dell! not!
post #38 of 98
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Originally Posted by Vicious_CB
Wow if you think $700 is worth 2 hours of your time why are you bitching over a $4500 laptop. $4500!!! thats only 13 hours of your time!!!!

You should buy one of these http://www.voodoopc.com/system/quote...productID=1090

Since money isnt a problem for you

I don't think...I know.

And can you not read...it's not about the money, it's about NOT dealing with Alienware.

And VooDoo...hahahahahahahahahaah...my friend has one and is wishin he sent it back a few weeks ago.
post #39 of 98
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Originally Posted by icweiner
OK OK I bought my notebook puter from AW and yes I had a rough time and yes if hadn't had a big discount I would have cancelled the order b4 I got it and yes when it came it had operating system build problems and their laughable tech support told me to re-install xp (not a 5 min job). But remember this AW puters are not for beginers or easyriders they are for the geeks and freaks who will go the extra mile to care for their puter. My advise is to bug AW support till it works, send it back have em fix, when you finally have it working enjoy it, it won't take forever to sort this out! lets face it if you want Dell to come out and fix it on site then buy a Dell! not!

I don't want to spend hours and hours to make my operating system work. I want to spend hours and hours making the software I'm programming work. I don't have time to figure out why the plastic is humming...lol.

I also don't want to send it back to Alienware for fixing over and over again so that when I get it back it's obsolete.
post #40 of 98
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Originally Posted by souljahsky
I don't think...I know.

And can you not read...it's not about the money, it's about NOT dealing with Alienware.

And VooDoo...hahahahahahahahahaah...my friend has one and is wishin he sent it back a few weeks ago.

NO I get exacly what you are saying,you're saying "I'd rather spend $700 NOT to get my computer working because its just not worth my time" Anyone with any sense of saving money would see that giving AW $700 to not get a computer that wasnt really all that broken, fixed is the same as flushing $700 down the toilet
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