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post #1 of 33
8/28/06 at 6:49pm
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... I simply can't see the notebook of my choice. The company selling them are Dell and Alienware, but both are not complete, do you know other brands selling the merom with this specs?

Alienware: Pros/Cons

Pros:
Cheaper than Dell
Offer you dual hard drives up to 240GBs of data.

Cons:
Crappy video card (radeon x1800)
Doesn't offer you the possibility to have 4GBs of RAM.

Dell: Pros/Cons

Pros:
You can have up to 4GB of RAM
The latest video card for a notebook (512MB 7900GTX)

Cons:
Much more expensive than Alienware's with more or less same options.
Charges $1575 or $2775 (533 vs 667) for 4GB of RAM!!!! WTF??!!!
Only offer you a single hard drive option up to 120GBs.

So, I want the laptop of my dream with all this options: dual hard drive, t7600 merom, 512MB 7900GTX, 4GB of RAM. Pretty soon, i'll have about $5000 to buy it, but if i'm going to spend all this money I want it with all this options.
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post #2 of 33
8/28/06 at 7:45pm
why would you want 4GB on your notebook anyway?
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post #3 of 33
8/28/06 at 7:54pm
You dont need 4GB of RAM today for starters. And number 2, why is an x1800 crappy?
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post #4 of 33
8/28/06 at 8:18pm
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Originally Posted by desir3Cons:
Crappy video card (radeon x1800)

Since when?
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post #5 of 33
8/28/06 at 8:37pm
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will future games require 4GBs of RAM? If not, then I'll stick with 2GBs. And I call the radeon x1800 crappy compared to the 512MB 7900GTX.
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post #6 of 33
8/28/06 at 8:46pm
Well configure your Dell with 1GB and then source your 4GB elsewhere. The problem lies in that there are only 2 slots so you need 2GB sticks, which aren't cheap.
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post #7 of 33
8/28/06 at 9:30pm
lol in the future whatever laptop you build today wont run it, dont try and futureproof a computer for games, that doesnt work.

2GB of ram is enough for the games TODAY, the x1800 isnt crappy as it runs most games at high to highest native LCD res fine. (WSXGA+)

laptop gaming is kinda lame anyways, you can run your games much smoother on a bigger screen for 1/4 of the cost on a desktop, with a REAL mouse and keyboard. why use a laptop?
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post #8 of 33
8/29/06 at 3:02am
I really should stop posting this since I just ordered my laptop, but if you are looking for the new intel proc. go to Gentech, they have them.

I have used thier name so much today I should get a kick back.
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post #9 of 33
8/29/06 at 3:26am
1GB RAM is enough for todays games but 2GB is recomended for the smoothest experience. 4GB is way overkill. No matter how much RAM you want, its recomended to get the smallest amount you can from the dealer and then go to newegg.com or another similar web site to get more RAM. Its MUCH cheeper that way.

The x1800 is a very powerful video card. Everything out will run at very high-highest settings.
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post #10 of 33
8/29/06 at 10:46am
No offense, but you clearly have no clue about what you are trying to do.

For that money, I recommend that you buy two notebooks instead of one. One now and another one later on (sell your first). I bet you will be better "future-proofed" than with this 4gb notebook you're thinking about buying.
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post #11 of 33
8/29/06 at 12:18pm
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Originally Posted by TwilightVampire
1GB RAM is enough for todays games but 2GB is recomended for the smoothest experience. 4GB is way overkill. No matter how much RAM you want, its recomended to get the smallest amount you can from the dealer and then go to newegg.com or another similar web site to get more RAM. Its MUCH cheeper that way.

The x1800 is a very powerful video card. Everything out will run at very high-highest settings.

4GB is not enough. I depends on what you do with it. For most graphics bound games it probably is to much. For other applications it is still not enough. Me I am wathcing for a someone to offer wintdows x64 and make the full 4 GB addressable.
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post #12 of 33
8/29/06 at 12:58pm
I didn't know that dell had nb's that could go upto 4GB. Depending on what you do, having 4GB is not unreasonable. I am currently looking at laptops that will give me that flexibility so I can run a number of virtual servers in a test environment. Currently on my workstation, I needed to bump upto 4GB so I could run a virtual workstation with 2GB of RAM.

BTW, are there any ASUS laptops that can handle 4GB ram?
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post #13 of 33
8/29/06 at 1:07pm
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post #14 of 33
8/29/06 at 1:12pm
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Originally Posted by oiler_head
I didn't know that dell had nb's that could go upto 4GB. Depending on what you do, having 4GB is not unreasonable. I am currently looking at laptops that will give me that flexibility so I can run a number of virtual servers in a test environment. Currently on my workstation, I needed to bump upto 4GB so I could run a virtual workstation with 2GB of RAM.

BTW, are there any ASUS laptops that can handle 4GB ram?
Dont base the support off the brand, but rather the chipset. Any modern intel or AMD chipset can support 4GB of ram, regardless of the brand. The problem is, getting a 2GB stick in laptop sized density is NOT cheap; thus you don't see it alot.
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post #15 of 33
8/29/06 at 1:20pm
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Originally Posted by Divine_Madcat
Dont base the support off the brand, but rather the chipset. Any modern intel or AMD chipset can support 4GB of ram, regardless of the brand. The problem is, getting a 2GB stick in laptop sized density is NOT cheap; thus you don't see it alot.


Yeah, I got that...it just seemed that people were dumping on desir3 for even listing that as one of the requirements. I just was trying to say that there are legit scenarios other than gaming where 4GB RAM is desirable.

For my purposes, I only expect to need 2GB of RAM, I just want to have a laptop that has the flexibility to go up to 4GB. If you're stating that the current chipset/BIOS (AMD or Intel) combo supports that regardless of irrespective of nb brand then I am good to go. If that is not true, then I am on the hunt for those nb that have BIOSes that support 4GB (whether I get 4 or not)
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post #16 of 33
8/29/06 at 3:35pm
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Originally Posted by Divine_Madcat
Dont base the support off the brand, but rather the chipset. Any modern intel or AMD chipset can support 4GB of ram, regardless of the brand. The problem is, getting a 2GB stick in laptop sized density is NOT cheap; thus you don't see it alot.

Actually there are no notebook chipsets that can address a full 4GB of ram, with the possible exception of the ATI 1150 in the the upcoming Ferrari notebooks. All of the chipsets will address 32-bits which means that all the hardware comes off the 4BG limit giving windows about 2.5 to 2.8 GB of usable ram.
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post #17 of 33
8/29/06 at 5:02pm
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Originally Posted by Ransomed1
Not to mention that getting 200fps on a notebook impresses people much more than doing the same on a desktop.

Nuf said,
Ransom


Ah, so you want to buy a really big expensive laptop to impress people? The REAL reason comes out! ;P
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post #18 of 33
8/29/06 at 5:20pm

Nope

You are mistaken. I have a 1.3" laptop that weighs 6lbs and plays all the games I could want at great frame rates. The guys at the LAN parties I go to see it and say out loud, "My next computer will be a notebook." And these are guys with great raid setups and dual graphics cards and such in their desktops that get 10,000 scores in 3dmark05.

And, as always, I only state my opinion that gaming on a notebook is not lame.

Ransom
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post #19 of 33
8/29/06 at 5:23pm
Dude, you are SOOO doing it for the attention!
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post #20 of 33
8/29/06 at 5:45pm
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